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edogawa rando posted:Unironically, that did occur to me, but like, it's TNA, you know? In typical TNA fashion, I think it actually started off good and then got driven into the ground if my memory serves.
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Ganso Bomb posted:In typical TNA fashion, I think it actually started off good and then got driven into the ground if my memory serves.
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Aces & Eights was run into the ground well before Bully Ray was revealed as their leader: June 2012: They start doing run-ins and beating up random people August 2012: They start interfering in matches, including attacking Bully Ray and Jeff Hardy during their PPV match October 2012: Aces & Eights have their first match, defeating Sting and Bully Ray. One of the leaders of Aces & Eights is revealed to be Devon, who has a vendetta against his "former" brother. November-December 2013: Bully Ray and other babyfaces continue to feud with Aces & Eights in wild brawls. Aces & Eights exposes that Bully Ray and Brooke Hogan are dating, in an attempt to drive a wedge between babyface commissioner Hulk Hogan and their enemy Bully Ray. January 2013: Eventually Hulk Hogan approves of the relationship, and Bully Ray is set to marry Brooke Hogan, but Aces & Eights crash the wedding and beat the poo poo out of Bully Ray. Hogan books a six man tables match that ends with Bully Ray putting Devon through a table. February 2013: The war continues as Bully Ray leads the charges against Aces & Eights even as Eric Bischoff, Taz, Wes Brisco, and other even more forgettable wrestlers are revealed to have been secretly Aces & Eights members all along! March 2013: Bully Ray abruptly turns heel and reveals that he has been the leader of Aces & Eights from Day One. And then somehow it continued until November, but Bully Ray was actively feuding with Aces & Eights for slightly over half of their entire run. It was all part of his plan!
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At this point have the Dudleyz spent more time as Team 3-D than as The Dudley Boyz? I mean at the very least they've been Brother Ray and Brother D'von for longer.
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ChrisBTY posted:At this point have the Dudleyz spent more time as Team 3-D than as The Dudley Boyz? I mean at the very least they've been Brother Ray and Brother D'von for longer. Bubba started in ECW in '95, D-Von in '96, and they were Dudleys until '05. Plus the 2 years they went back to WWE in 2015-16. So D-Von probably spent slightly longer as D-Von Dudley but Bubba has spent more time as Brother Ray because D-Von hasn't wrestled since 2016.
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What was the deal where Bubba had some fan brought to the backstage area to intimidate him a couple years ago?
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Hiring a biker gang to beat me up over and over again for months, to own the libs
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Halloween Jack posted:Hiring a biker gang to beat me up over and over again for months, to own the libs Aces and Eights?
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TheKingslayer posted:What was the deal where Bubba had some fan brought to the backstage area to intimidate him a couple years ago? Josh has always sworn that he didn't cross a line; those who were there with him backed that up, as did people who were familiar with him from DEFY shows locally, his regular trips to LA for PWG, etc. and said that the allegation was completely out of character. There are people who generally aren't full of poo poo who swore up and down that Josh went too far, but nothing that would justify Ray Deadly's ridiculously unprofessional reaction.
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This is like IT'S ME AUSTIN when Vince's master plan to "teach Austin a lesson he will never ever forget" involved: - Austin winning the title from his chosen "corporate champion". - Him being beaten up over and over again by both Austin and Taker. - Scarring his own family members, rather than Austin, for life. - Losing control of the company and its dominant faction on at least two occasions. - Calling the cops to investigate various threats he instigated against himself, his family, and his neighbours. And this is why thinking storylines through before writing them is a GOOD thing! Hedgehog Pie fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Also, re IT'S ME AUSTIN: Yes, you revealed yourself to him, and only him, the previous week. He already knows that you are the higher power!
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WWF in 1999 it didn’t matter so much if the overarching story didn’t make a lick of sense because each individual angle was so entertaining. That’s also why WWE can’t get away with their lovely storylines now because each part is scripted garbage written in Vincebrain
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I remember the internet winging a whole lot of far more entertaining ideas for the Higher Power leading up to it. "It's Jake Roberts." "It's Don Callis." "It's Brian Pillman faking his death, you smart marks"
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The only good thing the Higher Power angle spawned was JR's reaction to the reveal
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Don would probably have pulled it off but it would've needed him to completely distance himself from the Jackal.
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DeathChicken posted:I remember the internet winging a whole lot of far more entertaining ideas for the Higher Power leading up to it. "It's Jake Roberts." "It's Don Callis." "It's Brian Pillman faking his death, you smart marks" Evidently the original plan was Chris Daniels, but Vince decided he was too small
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Evidently the original plan was Chris Daniels, but Vince decided he was too small that was the vampiro higher power in wcw.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:The only good thing the Higher Power angle spawned was JR's reaction to the reveal It was our go-to reaction when something stupid happened while we were still watching.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:The only good thing the Higher Power angle spawned was JR's reaction to the reveal The best part is that he just sounds irritated rather than faux-outraged at the reveal. It's like his commentary in the Triple H-Booker T match when Lawler keeps bringing up how Booker was in prison once.
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DeathChicken posted:I remember the internet winging a whole lot of far more entertaining ideas for the Higher Power leading up to it. "It's Jake Roberts." "It's Don Callis." "It's Brian Pillman faking his death, you smart marks" Was everyone deflated when, the previous week, Vince did a promo where he said "Some people think it's... Jake "the Snake" Roberts", followed by the classic WWF "pause for pop/what chant"? Because that basically telegraphs that, no, it will not be Jake.
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The whole Vince-as-Higher-Power-leading-the-Corporate-Ministry thing lasted exactly 2 PPVs after that moment. Contrast that ADD booking with....hey, at least Big E has stopped fighting Apollo Crews
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Evidently the original plan was Chris Daniels, but Vince decided he was too small STONE COLD 64 posted:that was the vampiro higher power in wcw. He was rumored to be The Higher Power of the Corporate Ministry in the summer of 1999, at least according to Internet rumors at the time, but they were just rumors. Recently on his podcast, Bruce Pritchard said on his podcast that they introduced the idea of the Higher Power with no one in particular in mind, but Vince Russo pushed for Christopher Daniels. Vince McMahon rejected it because Daniels was too small and Undertaker wouldn't take orders from a little guy. Daniels himself says they never contacted him, and he only heard about it years later. Fast forward a year or so, and Daniels does some try-out matches for WCW and gets told he's hired twice in between booking regime changes and nothing comes of it.One of those times, they wanted to use Daniels as a Higher Power: quote:They told me a couple different things. All I knew for certain was that it was supposed to be a play on the relationship between Darth Vader and The Emperor from the Star Wars movies. The idea was that I was going to be The Emperor to Vampiro's Darth Vader. I don't know exactly why it fell apart. I did what they wanted me to do. And then the next time I showed up, they said we weren't doing it. Imagine if we find out in ten years he really was supposed to be the Exalted One
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how different would the world of wrestling be if Vince McMahon and his son were like 5'8"
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Edge & Christian posted:Recently on his podcast, Bruce Pritchard said on his podcast that they introduced the idea of the Higher Power with no one in particular in mind, but Vince Russo pushed for Christopher Daniels. Vince McMahon rejected it because Daniels was too small and Undertaker wouldn't take orders from a little guy. Daniels himself says they never contacted him, and he only heard about it years later. Compared to the Undertaker taking orders from noted giant Paul Bearer, of course.
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does anyone know why vince russo knew about a good indie wrestler? maybe they had a nice talk about bad movies when daniels worked as a jobber one time
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Christopher Daniels had gone to a try-out camp for WWF not long before this and had worked as a jobber for them in 1998 through early 1999 (including on some Shotgun Saturday Nights which Russo and Pritchard both did commentary on semi-regularly), so it's not like Russo was out scouting talent. Daniels also claims that Russo had no idea who he was and was part of the group that let him go/canceled his gimmick with Vampiro in 2000, so either Pritchard is scapegoating Russo for an idea Vince McMahon didn't like, or Vince Russo has zero attention span/memory. Either one seems plausible. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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thank you Christian. When I like your post you're Christian and when i don't like it you're Edge.
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Wasn’t there a story about how Brock Lesnar got Sable to start dating him by breaking into her home and telling her that she was going to be his woman and he wasn’t taking no for an answer? I KNOW I’ve heard this story multiple times in the past, but now that I’m trying to google it, I can’t find anything on it. Is this something that actually happened or am I going crazy?
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i believe that was posted in the old 'wrestling dreams' thread, as a dream someone'd had.
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This is sort of non brand specific, so I am going to post it here. How the hell do people get front row tickets to WWE or AEW wrestling events at normal prices? I've always wanted to get a front row seat, but I'm not paying $2,000 to do it when I can sit 5 rows back for $100. Like is there a trick... do they only sell them during the presale? Do they only sell them on the general sale date? Because I always feel like I am in this situation where I buy SOMETHING decently good on the presale date, and then wonder if something better will come up later on during the general sale. I was trying to to get tickets to the Dynamite in Chicago today and yesterday. I didn't see any front row tickets on sale at all the first day, and the second day all I saw were the Ticketmaster "verified platinum" bullshit that was 2K per seat. Today I was #8 in the queue and got in right away, and there were about a half dozen tickets around the ring, all verified platinum and obscenely expensive. I don't know... I feel like in my market I'll never be able to do it.
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What's Tomko's deal? For context I stopped watching wrestling after WCW imploded and didn't really start watching again until CM punk's championship reign in WWE. Catching up on old matches that are essential viewing and he sticks out like a sore thumb - I've heard about or recognize pretty much everyone else except for him. He's got a great look and he's been involved in several of the top storylines across promotions.
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Just a Dude really, who happened to catch on as Christian's manager. He was pretty good at playing straight man to Christian's silliness
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My friend used him as shorthand for big, angry, tattooed guys. Like, "I beat Tyson Tomko to a parking spot and he threatened to kick my rear end over it."
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Astro7x posted:This is sort of non brand specific, so I am going to post it here. I am not sure how they get them but some of these people spend an obscene amount of money. I saw an interview with one superfan (I think it was Brock Lesnar fan) a few years back and he admitted he was making out credit cards to go.
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DeathChicken posted:Just a Dude really, who happened to catch on as Christian's manager. He was pretty good at playing straight man to Christian's silliness He was in WWE, went to TNA, then was signed back to WWE, but didn't disclose that he had an injury when signed, so he was "out of shape" when he had his return dark match, so they fired him.
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I used to get front row seats for WWF shows in the 90s because a relative was dating someone in the box office. Not sure if that's still possible, but it seemed like the only way was to know someone.
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Yeah the only time two times I've sat front row at a WWE show is because a friend was friends with the local promoter that had free tickets.
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Everyone seems to be speaking like everyone knows where Rush and Dragon Lee are going once their contracts are up. Do we actually know? Or if they win at Final Battle are we assuming that they're staying with ROH.
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