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I want to believe, without proof, that the PPC uptick is made up entirely of single-issue antivax voters, and not a horde of chuds that just John Cena-ed its way into a polling place. I also believe there was a plurality of Ukrainian nationalists in the 40s who supported an alliance with Germany only because they didn't like Russia, and who otherwise weren't really onboard with the whole Holocaust thing. Nazis, I believe that group is called today.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 14:58 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 19:06 |
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"I should never be treated like a second class citizen and if I've gotta vote for the Putting People in Camps party to prove that so be it. "
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 15:02 |
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Hizawk posted:While I got to vote early due to military stuff, my wife had to wait for her OFFICIAL BALLOT from Elections Canada. I'm a little suprised to hear that the dependents of CAF Electors can't piggyback on the same system as military folks when they're posted overseas. That's pretty frustrating. Calumanjaro posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/escrimshaw/status/1439222895121772544 Man, whatever the outcome is, the election results are going to be extremely interesting to follow.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 15:02 |
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mom and dad fight a lot posted:I'm a little suprised to hear that the dependents of CAF Electors can't piggyback on the same system as military folks when they're posted overseas. That's pretty frustrating. Major "may you live in interesting times" vibes here.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 15:05 |
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Seriously, though. I don't give too much credence to polling data, but right now there's a lot of things on the table and they're all kind of hilarious. Will the liberals get hoisted by their own petard (a la Teresa May)? Will a fringe party riding anti-vax sentiment get seats in parliament? Will this actually result in a liberal majority (a la Stephen Harper)? Will pretty much nothing change, and this was all a huge waste of time? I dunno, I think it's gonna be interesting. vvv Edit: Yeah, this part isn't fun though. mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Sep 20, 2021 |
# ? Sep 20, 2021 15:27 |
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The PPC gaining ground is going to shift the Conservative party more right which was inevitable and gross and awful. Forwarding my 2024 thanks to Justin for essentially handing a more fascist leader in 2024.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 15:35 |
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How is fascism not the fault of the fascists? Stop acting like it's Trudeau's fault, and start bashing fash.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:05 |
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How the hell is it Trudeaus fault anti-vaxx morons are shifting Conservatives more right?
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:20 |
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Do we have a CanPol election night discord or something? Or do we ? edit: I suck Canuckistan posted:I think Discord is the standard now for election night drinking channels. mom and dad fight a lot fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 20, 2021 |
# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:20 |
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Vintersorg posted:How the hell is it Trudeaus fault anti-vaxx morons are shifting Conservatives more right? Being mad at Trudeau for everything, regardless of political affiliation or preference, but especially regardless of if what you're mad about has anything to do with Trudeau, is the Canadian version of "THANKS OBAMA".
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:21 |
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Went and voted NDP in a deep blue riding, but joke's on them, i kept the pencil. good luck having future elections without the pencil, suckers
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:30 |
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What the hell is happening with the scale of that steering wheel
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:36 |
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Powershift indeed - is that a 80s station wagon?
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:37 |
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Vintersorg posted:How the hell is it Trudeaus fault anti-vaxx morons are shifting Conservatives more right? Honestly, one of the more troubling shifts is also this idea of removing accountability for people who are stupid and terrible, and do stupid and terrible things. "Oh it's misinformation, it's Trudeau derangement, it's social media, etc." No, gently caress off, lovely people do lovely things because they choose to do lovely things and they could equally choose not to do lovely things. These are not toddlers, these are adults with agency and the capability to consider their own behaviour, we need to start holding them accountable for their choices. "Trudeau made me sad and now I eat horse paste instead of getting a vaccination!" We don't actually have to pretend these people are victimized or not responsible for being thick fucks who make our nights long and days sour.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:41 |
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Vintersorg posted:Powershift indeed - is that a 80s station wagon? It's way larger than an 80s station wagon. (1973 Lincoln Mark IV)
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:42 |
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On my way to the essentially pointless endeavour of voting for the NDP in Saskatchewan. gently caress Trudeau forever for backing out of election reform.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:42 |
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Powershift posted:It's way larger than an 80s station wagon. Excellent!
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:43 |
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Look at all you chumps who didn't vote two weeks early and got depressingly drunk in the past 14 days since.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:47 |
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Madkal posted:Look at all you chumps who didn't vote two weeks early and got depressingly drunk in the past 14 days since. I've chosen simply not to vote this year. As for drinking... when has this pandemic started again?
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:49 |
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PT6A posted:How is fascism not the fault of the fascists? Stop acting like it's Trudeau's fault, and start bashing fash. The Liberals inability to govern effectively and the Conservatives ability to make people mad without actually fixing problems either leaves them both at fault for the rising tide of fascism.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:51 |
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Powershift posted:It's way larger than an 80s station wagon. This is amazing.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:52 |
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Madkal posted:Look at all you chumps who didn't vote two weeks early and got depressingly drunk in the past 14 days since. The thing that kept me from voting early is also keeping me depressingly sober I voted around 7:45, but the voting center is in an active high school's gymnasium. I was able to park right by the door, walk straight in to the voting stall, and walk straight out in around 2 minutes. People doing it later today are going to be fighting for parking with students and it's probably going to not be good. There are already reports of lines around the block at some Toronto polling stations.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:53 |
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Gros Tarla posted:I've chosen simply not to vote this year. As for drinking... when has this pandemic started again? Sure it's your choice and all but
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:54 |
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Powershift posted:It's way larger than an 80s station wagon. All front no back. Much nicer looking than a boxy four door.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:57 |
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Vintersorg posted:Sure it's your choice and all but First past the post voting means that like at least a third of the people who don't vote are making a rational choice.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 16:59 |
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PT6A posted:Honestly, one of the more troubling shifts is also this idea of removing accountability for people who are stupid and terrible, and do stupid and terrible things. "Oh it's misinformation, it's Trudeau derangement, it's social media, etc." No, gently caress off, lovely people do lovely things because they choose to do lovely things and they could equally choose not to do lovely things. These are not toddlers, these are adults with agency and the capability to consider their own behaviour, we need to start holding them accountable for their choices. https://twitter.com/conor64/status/1439660731197280260
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:01 |
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PT6A posted:How is fascism not the fault of the fascists? Stop acting like it's Trudeau's fault, and start bashing fash. We have a shitload of historical data as to what conditions lead a populace towards fascism and if you actively pursue those conditions because they also benefit you then it's just as much your fault as it is theirs.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:10 |
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EvilJoven posted:We have a shitload of historical data as to what conditions lead a populace towards fascism and if you actively pursue those conditions because they also benefit you then it's just as much your fault as it is theirs. Conditions like elections existing? I can see your argument, and it definitely makes sense when the actions in question enable fascists, but a political party calling an election because they feel it would get them additional power to enact their mandate both doesn't directly enable fascism at all, and isn't all that unjustifiable IMO. If you genuinely believe your policies are the most effective ones for the country, being able to implement those policies more effectively instead of needing to compromise is a good thing for everyone in your mind. The problem is that Liberals policies aren't actually what's good for the country, but if the NDP were in power and called an election because they felt they could get a majority (lol at this ever being something that could happen), I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:21 |
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I only said thanks to Trudeau for the future fascist leader because if he waited this out - and called an election post-pandemic - the PPC wouldn't be a loving thing chipping away at the Cons. I get it though - it's not his responsibility to manage other parties but fucks sake what a stupid loving election.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:24 |
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Slotducks posted:called an election post-pandemic Unfortunately canadian law requires elections every 5 years.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:25 |
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The far-right's constant use of the term "cuck", while not surprising, is always a huge red flag to me that the person using it has some poo poo to work out before we can even get close to being able to talk about politics.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:26 |
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Monaghan posted:First past the post voting means that like at least a third of the people who don't vote are making a rational choice. all choices are rational as long as there's a rationale.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:31 |
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Slotducks posted:I only said thanks to Trudeau for the future fascist leader because if he waited this out - and called an election post-pandemic - the PPC wouldn't be a loving thing chipping away at the Cons. I get it though - it's not his responsibility to manage other parties but fucks sake what a stupid loving election. It's still possible for the pandemic to get worse before it gets better, requiring expanded mandates that would generate more PPC voters. So the other side of that cointoss is good job captain blackface for nipping the PPC thing in the bud before it got too serious.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:32 |
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Lol the Green Party candidate for Renfrew Nippissing Pembroke withdrew his candidacy after getting reamed by everyone for comparing passports to the Nazi Gestapo. https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/eastern-ontario-green-party-candidate-withdraws-night-before-election-following-unacceptable-comments-1.5592379 Forty more years of Cheryl.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:32 |
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Arc Hammer posted:https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/eastern-ontario-green-party-candidate-withdraws-night-before-election-following-unacceptable-comments-1.5592379 Thank goodness he didn't say Nazis.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:38 |
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Ah yes, the myth of the pure non-nazi wehrmacht
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 17:49 |
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It's Renfrew County anyone power hungry enough to run for politics is also gonna be a jackass in some form on top of how weird a lot of people out there are.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 18:04 |
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^My thoughts exactly -- but the greens? Like... really?
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 18:05 |
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enki42 posted:Unfortunately canadian law requires elections every 5 years. Postess with the Mostest posted:It's still possible for the pandemic to get worse before it gets better, requiring expanded mandates that would generate more PPC voters. So the other side of that cointoss is good job captain blackface for nipping the PPC thing in the bud before it got too serious. ah gently caress!
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 18:10 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 19:06 |
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While I get the general sentiment of "don't call an election during a pandemic," most of the tut-tutting I've heard has come from the CPC who are basically solely responsible for it still being dangerous to go out in public right now so I mostly just hope they all drown in their own lung juices so we can move on.
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# ? Sep 20, 2021 18:16 |