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Hmm. https://deadline.com/2021/09/the-wh...n-2-1234840887/ Mat's actor decided not to return for season 2.
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That's an ill omen. Even in the best circumstances, recasting one of the main characters could kill a show. Finding out about this before the first season has even aired is going to make watching it weird
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GreenNight posted:Hmm. It doesn't say that Barney Harris decided not to return, only that he won't be returning. Could be that there was an issue with him.
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yeah, not really worth jumping to conclusions without more information. a whole host of things could be the reason for it. likely if the series continues it'll be a long haul and maybe the actor got cold feet about the prospect of that. dunno!
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Oh, that doesn't inspire anything good in me. Curious if there will be any more info out of NYCC in October, WoT will be featured at the amazon panel that Friday.
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it'll be weird if they refuse to acknowledge anything about it so maybe they'll at least give a reason if it's something benign
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Johnny Joestar posted:it'll be weird if they refuse to acknowledge anything about it so maybe they'll at least give a reason if it's something benign I don''t know, if it was benign like he got some huge offer somewhere else there'd be news of that. Hopefully this doesn't hurt anything, but like someone said it is going to make the first season really weird.
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Even if it's a legit reason, recasting one of the pillars of the books in season 2 sucks. I completely understand but you know what I mean.
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seaborgium posted:I don''t know, if it was benign like he got some huge offer somewhere else there'd be news of that. Hopefully this doesn't hurt anything, but like someone said it is going to make the first season really weird. It's not like it hasn't happened many times before. Leaving aside things like Batwoman where it's a new character, the most recent example I can think of was Daario Naharis getting recast in Game of Thrones. You're right that it'll be a bit odd seeing a central character replaced after a whole season, but if for any reason on anyone's part it wasn't working out, in the long run it will be better.
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Looks like some named Dónal Finn is doing the recasting in season 2. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wheel-time-d-nal-finn-220028315.html
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I prefer recasting to the terrible cut and paste job they did to remove a sex pest on the Expanse. Edit: should be clear I am not saying anything sex pest like happened here.
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roseanne survived, we will too also Donal Finn sounds like an emonds fielder name already so, good sign
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Sep 21, 2021 02:18
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Mat is going to finally get that dagger taken away from him and no one is going to recognize him after
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That would be a really fun way to play off the recasting
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Nihilarian posted:Mat is going to finally get that dagger taken away from him and no one is going to recognize him after Yeah, of everyone to possible have to recast this is the best possible character at the best possible point.
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Sep 21, 2021 04:26
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Some of the Forsakens maybe
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Quoting myself from the Book Barn thread. I think the new guy looks more like my head cannon for Mat anyways. So I'm fine with it.
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Matt was barely recognizable as a character after book 1 anyway, I'd say its apropos.
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th3t00t posted:Quoting myself from the Book Barn thread. My brother said the same thing!
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th3t00t posted:Quoting myself from the Book Barn thread. This was also kinda my feelings so hey lets hope it works out. Still hype for this thing.
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That's the thing about TV shows. poo poo happens. You lose actors, you lose writers, you lose directors, and you can even lose showrunners. Even shows that are considered classics go through it. Tasha Yar, anyone? How about Crusher -> Pulaski -> Crusher? Or Ensign Ro? Hell, my favorite show of all time, Babylon 5, went through so many "main" characters it was like a carousel for awhile there. Unless your show only goes one season, odds are you'll start to lose actors/characters over time. That's just how these things go. 
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Interesting choice to bring the phallic subtext of the White Tower right to the forefront by giving it some big old balls.
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jng2058 posted:That's the thing about TV shows. poo poo happens. You lose actors, you lose writers, you lose directors, and you can even lose showrunners. Even shows that are considered classics go through it. Tasha Yar, anyone? How about Crusher -> Pulaski -> Crusher? Or Ensign Ro? Hell, my favorite show of all time, Babylon 5, went through so many "main" characters it was like a carousel for awhile there. Unless your show only goes one season, odds are you'll start to lose actors/characters over time. That's just how these things go. I'm not worried about the actor change, but you can't compare "live" series losing actors and thus writing a new season's plot to account for the change (by potentially just writing out the character) with a book adaption suddenly having to adapt for one of the main characters having to switch actors. It's not like you can just cut Mat from the story.
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Actor changes are incredibly jarring for most people including myself, so this news is very disappointing. Maybe they can pull a Paul Walker and special fx the new guy's head and voice onto season 1 before release, really make use of that Amazon budget.
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Torrannor posted:I'm not worried about the actor change, but you can't compare "live" series losing actors and thus writing a new season's plot to account for the change (by potentially just writing out the character) with a book adaption suddenly having to adapt for one of the main characters having to switch actors. It's not like you can just cut Mat from the story. Yeah, Babylon 5 didn't recast Sinclair, it introduced an entirely new character and rewrote a decent chunk of the plot around him. For Mat, well ... New guy has brown eyes, which is a good sign?(Really, it's an issue I have: I don't know any of these actors, Pike included. So I'm kind of judging everyone purely on looks, because that's all I had for I guess I'll just try to not get too attached to the first guy.
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Vavrek posted:Yeah, Babylon 5 didn't recast Sinclair, it introduced an entirely new character and rewrote a decent chunk of the plot around him. They did recast Na'toth, though. And in the end they had to write the character out.
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Jedit posted:They did recast Na'toth, though. And in the end they had to write the character out. I never really noticed that they recast her when viewing the show (Narn prosthetics are still some of the best in sci-fi), and it's not like they didn't have ample opportunities to write her out. What with the whole occupation, it just felt very natural. In any case, we'll just have to live with the recast. They can deemphasize his role in the first season, and the initial spin was that we'd get it mostly from Moiraine's perspective anyway. If they do cut out Caemlyn, one of the two places where Mat gets a bit more screentime, it will be even easier.
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Nihilarian posted:Mat is going to finally get that dagger taken away from him and no one is going to recognize him after I figure it'll be that or they'll massively speed up Moiraine's arc and transform Mat as part of the snakes and foxes place stuff. Still not a very good sign.
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given the kind of things that would prompt a studio to recast someone they intended to be a main character for many more seasons, there's a good chance that it IS a good sign that they immediately recast him or maybe something totally innocuous happened and no one is saying what it is for some reason, but seems less likely by the day
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https://twitter.com/rafejudkins/status/1428117141388148742?s=19 This is an interesting perspective. I'm trying to think of fantasy adaptations that have had young leads and don't feel like YA. How old were the Winterfell bunch meant to be when that series started? Although I guess they weren't so much the leads really compared to Sean Bean et al.
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GoT aged the kids up a few years each as well. In the books Robb starts at like 15 and Bran at 8
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Yeah Faile really shouldn't be 15
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Rarity posted:Yeah Faile really shouldn't be 15 It does put her behaviour in the later books in more perspective, but for the show she should match Perrin's age at least.
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Rarity posted:Yeah Faile really shouldn't be 15 She's the same age as Elayne and Egwene, 17 when the series starts, according to the wiki at least
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They aged age the kids in Game of Thrones because Danaerys was like twelve in the books.
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