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Play posted:Urban has a job in the NFL (...) fail in an actual meritocracy will be delicious. Ah. Well, nonetheless,
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Phobeste posted:Ah. Well, nonetheless, Was doing this exercise with a buddy of mine and to be honest it’s a pleasant surprise how qualified or at least promising most of the head coaches seem. And then you have joe judge
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It's been mentioned, but there's no way Zimmer's seat isn't way hotter than Nagy. Zimmer is the 7th longest tenured coach in the league, and all six coaches ahead of him have won at least one Super Bowl.
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unl33t posted:It's been mentioned, but there's no way Zimmer's seat isn't way hotter than Nagy. Zimmer is the 7th longest tenured coach in the league, and all six coaches ahead of him have won at least one Super Bowl. Yeah, and he is moving backwards
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what are some of the saddest head coach upgrades of recent memory? if the vikings don't do anything zac taylor to mike zimmer could be a strong contender
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Sep 19, 2021 20:11
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Surely it's gotta be the 2000s/early 10s Bills. They went from Gregg Williams to Mike Murlarkey to Dick Jauron to Chan Gailey to Doug Marrone to Rex Ryan.
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Cavauro posted:what are some of the saddest head coach upgrades of recent memory? if the vikings don't do anything zac taylor to mike zimmer could be a strong contender Kitchens was better than Hue Jackson........ hell just look at clevelands coaching hires in the 10's
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Sep 19, 2021 20:18
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Remember the 49ers going from Jim Harbaugh to Jim Tomsula to Chip Kelly. Or the Giants going from Ol' Man Tom Coughlin to Ben McAdoo to Pat Shurmur (Who is also in the Browns list) to Joe Judge.
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there have definitely been many terrible coaching changes all the time. there's probably at least one almost every year. but i was thinking of specifically for sure upgrades that still suck
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Cavauro posted:there have definitely been many terrible coaching changes all the time. there's probably at least one almost every year. but i was thinking of specifically for sure upgrades that still suck So Jackson to Kitchens lol
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Sep 19, 2021 20:40
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Talking about the other post w harbaugh in it. thank you sincerely and strongly for your contribution
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Going back a bit Dave McGinnis to Denny Green for the Cardinals with Denny coming off of the Moss Viking years probably looked really good at the time?
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Grittybeard posted:Going back a bit Dave McGinnis to Denny Green for the Cardinals with Denny coming off of the Moss Viking years probably looked really good at the time? My lasting Dave McGinnis memory will always be the Bears scheduling a press conference to announce him as their new coach after they sacked Wannestedt, and he hadn't actually signed his contract yet and backed out because he couldn't believe the organization could be that sloppy.
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Jason Garrett to Mike McCarthy
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Coming soon: Belichick to Patricia.
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Cavauro posted:what are some of the saddest head coach upgrades of recent memory? if the vikings don't do anything zac taylor to mike zimmer could be a strong contender Jets going from Todd Bowles to Adam Gase has got to be up there. Got them from a .375 winning percentage to.... .281 Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Jason Garrett to Mike McCarthy More of a sideways move really. Which I suppose is quite sad in its own right
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Coming soon: Belichick to Patricia. Never
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Dom Capers to Gary Kubiak
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Dave Wannstedt to Dick Jauron Dick Jauron to Chan Gailey Dave Wannstedt to Nick Saban Marc Trestman to John Fox
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Trestman to Fox is 100% the answer That was a “his ceiling is ‘mediocre,’ but at least he’s not a clown” hire
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zimmer started the season on a flaming hot seat, it's no secret its deep into the playoffs or bust
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I can see into the future the real answer to this question is Urban Meyer to interim coach Brian Schottenheimer
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I think the 90s Seahawks have a pretty good claim to most depressing coaching upgrade, but a little context first. The Seahawks in the 80s weren't great, but they were consistent playoff teams with a fun identity in Chuck Knox's "Ground Chuck" offense, and sported multiple future HOFers in Steve Largent and Kenny Easley. By the early 90s, things quickly went south when Knox left for the Rams and their 80s core aged out. They brought in Tom Flores, who is now a beloved legend and a worthy Hall of Famer, but at the time he was a decade removed from his Raiders heyday and basically checked out. In Flores' first year, the 1992 Seahawks had legitimately one of the worst offenses of all time, averaging a pathetic 8.8 points per game. Flores never turned things around and was fired after three years, an unceremonious end to his lofty career (Seattle ended up being his last coaching job at any level). To make matters worse, then-owner and noted shitbag Ken Behring was hellbent on moving the Seahawks to Anaheim and at one point was literally days away from pulling it off when he moved office operations down to Anaheim without league approval. Thankfully the move fell through when the NFL called his bluff and forced him to sell off the team. Paul Allen bought the Seahawks in 1997 and the rest is history. So the franchise was in complete shambles both on and off the field, and the Flores hire wasn't working out at all. The Seahawks needed stability, and they needed it now. They found it in the form of a man with a decorated college career, who would bring his unique coaching style to the Pacific Northwest and remake the Seahawks in his image, turning them into a national powerhouse for a decade. Well, they thought Dennis Erickson would be that guy, but instead had to wait until Pete Carroll was available in 2010. Erickson did nothing of note and got canned after four years. His replacement, Mike Holmgren, was considered a shocking coup at the time, but new owner Allen wanted to swing big, so he rolled out the red carpet for a coach coming off two straight Super Bowl appearances and offered him the full GM powers he coveted but never got in Green Bay. Once again, the rest is history. So yeah, Dennis Erickson's Seahawks run is mostly forgotten today, but it's a pretty fascinating bridge period between the franchise's darkest days and the golden run that was about to come up. Benne fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Sep 21, 2021 |
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The thing I remember hearing in some NFL films piece about Erickson was he’d been notable in Miami for running a lot of a one-back offense and using WR bubble screens and stuff, the latter of which at that time wasn’t very common in the NFL. However, he was convinced it was a college thing that wouldn’t translate well to the NFL so they didn’t use it much. Also, ya know, Rick Mirer.
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I think if Stefanski was still in Minnesota Zimmer's seat would be hotter with them being able to move him up to head coach. As it is starting last year 0-5 and on the same path this year next week's game being the first at home has the potential to be an early nail in the coffin. Especially if they lose and it's not another close one.
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I’m not sure what the point is of Arthur smith in Atlanta. That roster needs to be blown up and they’re going to need a new quarterback before they’ll be good again.
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It's funny thay two close, fluke losses = time to fire his rear end and one win, one blowout loss is fine.
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Gruden > Raheem Morris > Greg Schiano > Lovie Smith > Dirk Koetter Dire.
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Norv Turner to Mike McCoy to Anthony Lynn
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a neat cape posted:Norv Turner to Mike McCoy to Anthony Lynn The entire history of Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals coaching hires.
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Edward Mass posted:Dom Capers to Gary Kubiak Kubiak is a good coach though.
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Forrest on Fire posted:The entire history of Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals coaching hires. If you go back to the St. Louis Cardinals at least they had Don Coryell for that brief period of competency in the mid-70s (Three straight 10-win seasons, which they only did again during the Arians years).
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fartknocker posted:If you go back to the St. Louis Cardinals at least they had Don Coryell for that brief period of competency in the mid-70s. Yep that's why I specified when they were in Arizona. This is a two hundred games under 500 franchise. We are the poster children for staying the course until basically Arians.
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Mike Martz to Scott Linehan to Steve Spagnuolo to Jeff Fisher
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DariusLikewise posted:Mike Martz to Scott Linehan to Steve Spagnuolo to Jeff Fisher that's grim
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Jeff Fisher was a great coach who built a mean defense
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Metapod posted:Jeff Fisher was a great coach who built a mean defense RIP all those 7-9 or 8-8 seasons, the greatest crime about the season no longer being 16 games…
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Nick Saban > Cam Cameron > Tony Sparano > Joe Philbin > Adam Gase I can't believe Sparano and Philbin each coached the dolfs for four years. Time flies.
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Wade Phillips —> Greggggg Williams —> Mike Mularkey —> Dick Jauron—> Perry Fewell(interim) —> Chan Gailey —> Doug Marrone —> Rex Ryan —> Anthony Lynn(interim) Wade is legit the best coach of the bunch  And there are teams that could outdo this list! How the gently caress did Mike Mularkey get TWO more jobs after this
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