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UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004
Without spoiling too much: In Super Metroid, which boss is meant to be done first, Maridia or Norfair?

I can't figure out how to get in to either one, and the only rooms I haven't explored yet are a couple in Maridia that are locked behind greyed out doors.

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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

Without spoiling too much: In Super Metroid, which boss is meant to be done first, Maridia or Norfair?

I can't figure out how to get in to either one, and the only rooms I haven't explored yet are a couple in Maridia that are locked behind greyed out doors.

Maridia.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 29, 2011

I don't know what this thing is, and I don't care. I'm just tired of seeing your stupid newbie av from 2011.

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

Without spoiling too much: In Super Metroid, which boss is meant to be done first, Maridia or Norfair?

I can't figure out how to get in to either one, and the only rooms I haven't explored yet are a couple in Maridia that are locked behind greyed out doors.

You have gravity suit, right? If so, Maridia. Vague directional hint: You're looking for a room up top (I think) you can grapple across. That should put you in rooms with Mocktroids, enemies that sorta look like Metroids. If you see them you're going in the right direction

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Samus Returns is pretty miserable on hard, so y’all were right. Alpha Metroids can kill you in like three hits. It’s kind of a miserable game in general with very drab and ugly areas. I also keep making bad decisions like going to the highest point in Area 2 but somehow not getting the Spring Ball until I came back later. I’m gonna power through but I wish they had tried to make it less ugly? At least Metroid II had the excuse of being a Game Boy game.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Blackbelt Bobman posted:

I wish they had tried to make it less ugly? At least Metroid II had the excuse of being a Game Boy game.

You can make the game look a lot better if you have the means to go the emulated route:

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Melman v2
Yeah like a lot of 3DS games it looks much better when not stuck at literally 240p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=717lsB_jEAI

Would be nice for Nintendo to re-release it but welp

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Melman v2
Lotta people theorizing that maybe these Chozo are X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJTs8JVe6X8

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
Chozo is bird. Ridley is bird. Chozo is ridley

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Blackbelt Bobman posted:

Samus Returns is pretty miserable on hard, so y’all were right. Alpha Metroids can kill you in like three hits. It’s kind of a miserable game in general with very drab and ugly areas. I also keep making bad decisions like going to the highest point in Area 2 but somehow not getting the Spring Ball until I came back later. I’m gonna power through but I wish they had tried to make it less ugly? At least Metroid II had the excuse of being a Game Boy game.

AM2R looks so much nicer it's crazy.

I'm glad Dread at least looks good, and that it was just the fact that all games look hideous on the 3DS rather than a problem with MercurySteam.

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
that's not true, kid Icarus uprising looks great on 3ds

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Hace posted:

that's not true, kid Icarus uprising looks great on 3ds
KI Uprising absolutely suffers from being in 240p as well

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 15, 2021

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Melman v2
This explanation of the old Metroid password system is fascinating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVJrEauUXM&t=1035s

I had never seen the worst ending before, with mother brain already dead and samus turned away from the camera, sobbing, that's amazing

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Sep 24, 2021

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

The United States posted:

KI Uprising absolutely suffers from being in 240p as well

it still looks good tho, especially compared to samus returns

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Hace posted:

it still looks good tho, especially compared to samus returns
It looks better than Samus Returns does on 3DS because it runs at 60fps (with frame drops) instead of 30fps (with frame drops).

Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
I am talking about the actual look of the game, though that is nice too I guess.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.


These are all dope AF, although idg the "dispose" one, at first glance that reads "this game is GARBAGE"

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

That's just reminding me that they hit a visual style in Prime that still looks good. The gamecube and ps2 era were good for that in a lot of cases. Super Mario Sunshine and Kingdom Hearts 2 are other good examples.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

I wish Nintendo would have let Retro keep Samus' more realistic look from the first Prime.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The United States posted:

This explanation of the old Metroid password system is fascinating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVJrEauUXM&t=1035s

I had never seen the worst ending before, with mother brain already dead and samus crying, that's amazing

That's incredibly cool but that style of on-camera gamer video with a crossover segment makes me think its 2011 and Channel Awesome is still going strong.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Electric Phantasm posted:

I wish Nintendo would have let Retro keep Samus' more realistic look from the first Prime.

I agree, only cause they REALLY struggled to convert her design/face from Zero Mission into 3D. They fixed it somewhat in Corruption, but Echoes... :gonk:

Still vastly prefer her Echoes/Corruption Varia Suit to the Prime one though, so wins and losses all around. :v:

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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TaurusOxford posted:

I agree, only cause they REALLY struggled to convert her design/face from Zero Mission into 3D. They fixed it somewhat in Corruption, but Echoes... :gonk:
It would have been fine if they were allowed to keep using their Prime 1 model and just let there be a visual difference between the realistic looking 3D series and the cartoony looking 2D series. The bad attempt at the Zero Mission model in 3D just smacks of last minute studio mandate.

https://twitter.com/wendysnowradish/status/1303014718299406341



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HarmlessHelplessDunnart-mobile.mp4

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Sep 17, 2021

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

TaurusOxford posted:

I agree, only cause they REALLY struggled to convert her design/face from Zero Mission into 3D. They fixed it somewhat in Corruption, but Echoes... :gonk:

Still vastly prefer her Echoes/Corruption Varia Suit to the Prime one though, so wins and losses all around. :v:

PED suit and dark suit are definitely in the top tier of suit designs.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Melman v2
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Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge

The United States posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk0eQkOSOGQ

It would have been fine if they were allowed to keep using their Prime 1 model and just let there be a visual difference between the realistic looking 3D series and the cartoony looking 2D series. The bad attempt at the Zero Mission model in 3D just smacks of last minute studio mandate.


I honestly think Prime 1 looks pretty bad as well. Like it's got some kind of "uncanny valley Barbie" vibe going on. Hunters looks the best out of these I'd say.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Orange Crush Rush posted:

I honestly think Prime 1 looks pretty bad as well. Like it's got some kind of "uncanny valley Barbie" vibe going on. Hunters looks the best out of these I'd say.
Yeah it's CG but Hunters does have one of the best Samus models and the best version of the Zero Suit as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tChyAN78sng

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I am excited for metroids

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
I put a silly amount of time into Hunters and I hope that Sylux shows up for reals instead of just in the secret endings

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


Clearly this is the best Zero Suit

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
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Melman v2
Is that an X at 6 seconds in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WorQiGeNcs




Triskelli posted:

Clearly this is the best Zero Suit


Hell yeah Awkward Zombie

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Sep 20, 2021

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

The United States posted:

Is that an X at 6 seconds in?

Looks like one to me, although the color of it is odd.

ZeeBoi
Jan 17, 2001

It’s pretty much confirmed the X parasite is in Dread, no?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

ZeeBoi posted:

It’s pretty much confirmed the X parasite is in Dread, no?

Yeah, it's in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDF5xpjGzBs

UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004

Orange Crush Rush posted:

I honestly think Prime 1 looks pretty bad as well. Like it's got some kind of "uncanny valley Barbie" vibe going on. Hunters looks the best out of these I'd say.

I love Prime 1 as a game, but it’s definitely evidence that Nintendo made the right decision about Wind Waker’s art style.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

The United States posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsM2kkaaZwQ

KI Uprising absolutely suffers from being in 240p as well


ur not wrong but mostly you've reminded me how insanely good uprising was. God id love it on switch

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Fuligin posted:

ur not wrong but mostly you've reminded me how insanely good uprising was. God id love it on switch

I would kill for a switch port of KIU, that game is absurdly good

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Crosspostin' from the chat thread because I forgot this thread exists.

So despite having played a bunch of them I've never actually finished a Metroid game. With Metroid Dread only like, 2 weeks out I figured I should correct that so I'm going to try and go through Zero Mission > Samus Returns > Super Metroid > Metroid Fusion before Dread releases. I'm currently playing Zero Mission, have just grabbed the Varia Suit and I'm heading back down into Norfair now to go explore some heat and acid filled locations! I'm loving it. The music, the atmosphere, the pixel art. All of it. I don't know what stopped me from finished Zero Mission the last time I picked it up years and years ago - probably just got distracted by something else - but it's been great.

It's bullshit that I'm at work and do not have designated Zero Mission breaks.

BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


The United States posted:

This explanation of the old Metroid password system is fascinating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fVJrEauUXM&t=1035s

I had never seen the worst ending before, with mother brain already dead and samus crying, that's amazing

The only password you need to know is ENGAGE RIDLEY MOTHER FUCKER, which instantly crashes the game no matter what system you're playing it on.

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Jul 18, 2004
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BisbyWorl posted:

The only password you need to know is ENGAGE RIDLEY MOTHER FUCKER, which instantly crashes the game no matter what system you're playing it on.
Yep it covers that one

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Sep 23, 2021

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Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

I finished Metroid Zero Mission and thus have finally actually finished a Metroid game for the first time. What a wonderful game. I got stuck twice that I can recall, I think once trying to get to Kraid and once trying to get to the Varia Suit and the answer both times was "go back and bomb this crack that you missed" which was mildly frustrating, but not the end of the world. The introduction of the metroids themselves is a fantastic :gonk: moment, particularly that room that if you're not careful plunges you when you bomb it straight into a pit with six of the drat things flying at you. I died a few times on Mother Brain until it suddenly just clicked and then it felt pretty easy from there.

I'm divided on the zero suit stuff post Mother Brain. Too many screens as you go through the mothership felt a little too much to me like "screw this up and you'll die" and the save points weren't close enough together that making my way back through didn't feel like a slog. The tense atmosphere is pretty good though, and getting the pulse beam and gravity suit and then getting to absolutely tear through the space pirates who now run and hide from you? Chefs kiss right there.
To have the culmination of the game be Mecha Ridley who goes down like a chump was a little less so, but not enough to dampen the triumphant mood I finished the game in.

Onward to Samus Returns! Very curious about this one as I imagine it's what MercurySteam are building off mechanically for Dread.

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