|
Enos Cabell posted:I used to think the other headsets weren't that much of an upgrade over CV1 until I actually put one on my head. Dunno about others, but RiftS and Quest1/2 are both way better IMO. The Quest 2 is a noticable step up over the Quest 1 so yeah this whole line of saying the CV1 was where it peaked makes no sense to me. But then I haven't used a CV1 so maybe there's something particular about it I'm missing.
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 14:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 14:27 |
|
|
njsykora posted:The Quest 2 is a noticable step up over the Quest 1 so yeah this whole line of saying the CV1 was where it peaked makes no sense to me. But then I haven't used a CV1 so maybe there's something particular about it I'm missing. You misunderstood what I said. I wrote that the new headsets aren't better in every way compared to CV1. Not that they aren't better in general. Specifically CV1 has better tracking, better controllers and better IPD (I'm too  for Quest 2's IPD). Everything else is probably better on the Quest 2.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 15:01
|
|
|
Ah OK that's fair, though I'd argue the controllers bit because I hated the original Touch controllers when I used them one time.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 15:25
|
|
|
njsykora posted:The Quest 2 is a noticable step up over the Quest 1 so yeah this whole line of saying the CV1 was where it peaked makes no sense to me. But then I haven't used a CV1 so maybe there's something particular about it I'm missing. Screen door effect is rad Edit: Oh wait that was the DK1, wasn't it? Senator Drinksalot fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 21, 2021 |
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 15:55
|
|
|
njsykora posted:Ah OK that's fair, though I'd argue the controllers bit because I hated the original Touch controllers when I used them one time. I just reused the CV1 recently, it still has the absolute best controllers, much better than Knuckles, and the comfort for me is still the best of any headset. Pimax *almost* cloned Touch into a lighthouse-compatible version but it became vaporware. I have no idea how someone hasn't tried to kickstart something like that though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:04
|
|
|
Senator Drinksalot posted:Screen door effect is rad I think it would've been the CV1 as well, people complained about the Quest 1 having the screen door effect.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:07
|
|
|
Everyone's forgetting about the true GOAT, the Oculus Go No honest man needs more than 3 DOF
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:17
|
|
|
I'd be interested in stats about what people who bought Go's actually used them for because I'm pretty sure it was 90% porn.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:21
|
|
|
Steam support is asking me to upload a youtube video of the drift on my index controller before they'll replace it
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:27
|
|
|
Jack Trades posted:You misunderstood what I said. I wrote that the new headsets aren't better in every way compared to CV1. Not that they aren't better in general. Your best bet is probably a Vive Pro and Index controllers then.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:29
|
|
|
njsykora posted:I'd be interested in stats about what people who bought Go's actually used them for because I'm pretty sure it was 90% porn. Pre-covid, my partner volunteered with a group that brought VR to nursing homes. They had a variety of headsets, but I think their favorite was the Go because it was comfortable and easy to get elderly people in and out of it. I think the experiences they did were just fine with the limits of that headset.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:29
|
|
|
Neddy Seagoon posted:Your best bet is probably a Vive Pro and Index controllers then. It is but I'm also not made out of money, unfortunately.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:52
|
|
|
Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Speaking of exercise, has anyone tried this? I bought some of these dumb disposable mask things for when I do a more intense workout in VR, and they soak up sweat pretty good: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07THCRC1L/ With 100 of them in a package, they'll probably last me like a year since I don't use them for everything I do in VR.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 16:59
|
|
|
StarkRavingMad posted:I bought some of these dumb disposable mask things for when I do a more intense workout in VR, and they soak up sweat pretty good: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07THCRC1L/ That seems like a great idea. I use a silicone cover and it's frustrating when things get swampy.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 17:05
|
|
|
canyoneer posted:That seems like a great idea. I use a silicone cover and it's frustrating when things get swampy. Yeah. There's other cheaper brands too in the "similar products" listing, I'm not saying that one is particularly better than any of the others. They're probably all basically the same, when I bought these, they were on sale.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 17:07
|
|
|
njsykora posted:I'd be interested in stats about what people who bought Go's actually used them for because I'm pretty sure it was 90% porn. I bought a daydream and used it once for 2 hours. Awful product.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 17:14
|
|
|
I had a Daydream and used it to play through Virtual Virtual Reality and Rez and thoroughly enjoyed both. For the price point and what it was, I didn't think it was so bad.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 17:28
|
|
|
The Daydream seemed to be geared more toward visual experiences with low interactivity, but it had a pretty good selection of games in its area of the Play Store and I liked it well enough. The only problem was that they had no solution to the problem of your phone overheating inside it, if they solved that for a cheaper option and followed through on a standalone option they could have developed it into something great.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 18:27
|
|
|
I'm looking at getting back into the game properly with the Quest 2, what's the glasses frame thing like to use? I hated the fact I needed to spend money on prescription lens to properly enjoy VR on the CV1 because my eyesight is pretty poo poo at -5.25 for my right and -6.0 for my left eye. Also, I've never tried horror fully in VR post DK1, is there any legit great and terrifying experiences - preferably not centered around jumpscares - yet for horror, because Dreadhalls still being mentioned as the big name when I do a casual search is kinda sad considering its been around since the DK1 era and honestly looks exactly the same as it did then. Not that it looks crap or anything, just really old now. On that note, how bad are jumpscares in VR compared to flatscreens?
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 18:36
|
|
|
BillBear posted:I'm looking at getting back into the game properly with the Quest 2, what's the glasses frame thing like to use? I hated the fact I needed to spend money on prescription lens to properly enjoy VR on the CV1 because my eyesight is pretty poo poo at -5.25 for my right and -6.0 for my left eye. I feel like the glasses spacer gives too much space and I just use it without it when I'm too lazy to put in contacts, but my glasses have a pretty thin frame / lenses so YMMV.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 18:57
|
|
|
I had lens inserts for my CV1 made via vroptician.com and just ordered new ones for my quest2. It does get a bit pricey at higher rx values (starting at +-4) but is absolutely worth it for the no-fog factor they bring.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 19:18
|
|
|
DelphiAegis posted:I had lens inserts for my CV1 made via vroptician.com and just ordered new ones for my quest2. It does get a bit pricey at higher rx values (starting at +-4) but is absolutely worth it for the no-fog factor they bring. Pretty much. Whatever company oculus pimps out is the ones the girl ended up buying and they work great. Highly recommend. Jack Trades posted:It is but I'm also not made out of money, unfortunately. If you want wireless sure, But honestly my vive pros sit and rot since I got the index. Id rather be on the cable 90% of the time and ultra comfy than be in my vive pros and be kinda comfy. Its weird but the index ruined me. Jack Trades posted:You misunderstood what I said. I wrote that the new headsets aren't better in every way compared to CV1. Not that they aren't better in general. Better tracking? Disagree. I swapped to lighthouse tech specifically because the tracking was flat out better for really fast movement. I was on a CV1, with 4 sensors, on a dedicated 4 chip usb card. Even 2 1.0s tracked better for things like saber. and with 2.0? its no contest that LH wins. Yes, Technically the 4 sensors covered more "area" but the actual tracking wasn't as good at the high end of speed/movement. Otherwise? Flip a coin really. Once you start adding extra sensors/light houses its more how its setup than do I have enough tracking. Controllers tho? 10000%. Touch for life.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:05
|
|
|
Friendly reminder that the Index's cable clips are flimsy garbage and will break at the slightest provocation, so make sure you reinforce them somehow. ASK ME HOW I KNOW
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:09
|
|
|
I have noticed that the q2's controllers feel a good amount heavier than the CV1 controllers. It's not a deal breaker, but I guess that means extra exercise when doing beat Saber! Also playing via airlink I did see the slight lag. First song I hit I failed out within 20s. However, after spending much of my 20s playing guitar hero/rock band, the second song I adapted to the lag rather fast and was able to crank out decent (but not perfect) scores after. Good thing this 16.5ft cable just came in the mail today. 
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:10
|
|
|
Brooks Cracktackle posted:Friendly reminder that the Index's cable clips are flimsy garbage and will break at the slightest provocation, so make sure you reinforce them somehow. Zip Tie or use a velcro cable tie near the rear clip to help re-enforce the thing. It'll also help the cable from getting tight and making it hard to use the knob in back.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:11
|
|
|
raditts posted:Not sure if it applies to Quest 1's or not, but as of 4-5 months back, the primary account on a Quest 2 can share their library with the sub-accounts on one(1) headset, allowing you to purchase a game once and play it together with someone else, but again, only if your account is the primary account on the headset they're using and you enable App Sharing on that headset. Nice, thanks for the list. Set it up today after spending 30 min cleaning it. I mean I am going to deep clean a second hand one, but why don't people log out and at least do a basic dusting. Bought the mini golf game and it was everything we hoped for. So much fun playing VR together.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:14
|
|
|
EbolaIvory posted:Better tracking?
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:21
|
|
|
Jack Trades posted:I was talking about CV1 vs Quests? Not Index? Sorry. I swear my heads off today. I will say though, Rift S/Quest tracking is on par within the range of the headset though. Obviously the sensor setup gives you a wider range since its not tied to the headset, but side by side they really are about the same in the actual tracking range. Kinda wild how good it is actually. How far off are you on IPD? I'm 69 (noice) and theres just nothing I can do to get it perfect. Its usable, but not great. (quest 2)
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:23
|
|
|
I can't even imagine how annoying it would be to not have tracking outside of your field of vision. My IPD is also 69.(nice)
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:27
|
|
|
One thing I've noticed since I started exploring the market for new headsets is how each one has some huge and glaring problem with it that just sucks and seems preventable. Quest 2 has amazing value, great resolution, and build quality but the FOV looks pretty ancient at this point. Index has top notch tracking and FOV but its build quality is awful and the resolution is dated while the value for money is questionable when you compare it to the Quest 2. It sucks because I really want better FOV but I also don't want to spend stupid money when the Quest 2's entry is way too tempting. The market just feels weird, the Quest 2 has really hosed it about and now it feels all over the place. I simply can't convince myself that the Index is a premium experience when Quest 2 seems to be doing better at a few things while being way cheaper and more convenient. Vive Pro 2 at £1200 is loving laughable, can anyone tell me why its so high? It really doesn't seem to be doing anything crazy to be throwing that tag around, especially with those controllers lol. Then again, I guess the VR scene moves at a fast pace and the Index 2 isn't super far away, but still..
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:31
|
|
|
Jack Trades posted:I can't even imagine how annoying it would be to not have tracking outside of your field of vision. Its not too bad depending on the title. I personally don't notice it outside of a handful of niche things. Hell a buddy who was/is top 10 world wide for saber top scored on a rift s and poo poo for a while just to prove tracking was "fine". Just sucks when you're out of range too long and the thing forgets where your hand was. :-\ BillBear posted:One thing I've noticed since I started exploring the market for new headsets is how each one has some huge and glaring problem with it that just sucks and seems preventable. Quest 2 is 1000% more conveinant and if you don't own an index and are happy, there is no reason to "upgrade" unless you're going to do some wacky tracker stuff or something. At least imo. If I hadn't bought an index, and had my vive pro only when I picked up my quest 2. I'd probably use it a lot more. Its pretty compareable outside of the IPD thing being lame and I can "live" with that to some degree. Got an index tho, and it ruined my quests (hell all my headsets) for me. The comfort + FOV = every other headset I own rots EbolaIvory fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Sep 21, 2021 |
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:45
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyfaSmjHhw Looks decently fun
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 20:57
|
|
|
EbolaIvory posted:Got an index tho, and it ruined my quests (hell all my headsets) for me. The comfort + FOV = every other headset I own rots Yeah, that's the problem. High FOV is something I really, really want and the Quest 2's seems really weak, but I'm not sure high FOV is worth the difference of £500 with Q2 vs Index and that's not even taking into account the things Q2 flat out does better. Vive Pro 2 with Index controllers seems to hit most of the right boxes but I'll have to spend a small fortune and again, the value for money here is just stupid when Q2 is still going toe to toe in various areas while almost being uncomfortably close to £1000 cheaper.. As things stand, I'm going with the Quest 2. But it must be said, it seems like Oculus is simply running circles around everyone else right now, the moment they nail better FOV and comfort plus all the cool poo poo they seem to be testing, I feel like it will be curtains for everyone else unless they start slashing those prices.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 21:19
|
|
|
BillBear posted:Yeah, that's the problem. High FOV is something I really, really want and the Quest 2's seems really weak, but I'm not sure high FOV is worth the difference of £500 with Q2 vs Index and that's not even taking into account the things Q2 flat out does better. Vive Pro 2 with Index controllers seems to hit most of the right boxes but I'll have to spend a small fortune and again, the value for money here is just stupid when Q2 is still going toe to toe in various areas while almost being uncomfortably close to £1000 cheaper.. 100% agree with you. As just a user playing games if you don't own the index, there isn't really a point upgrading unless you just HAVE to have those small upgrades for much much more money.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 21:30
|
|
|
As an Index owner who's played with a Q2... the Q2 is so much more bang for your buck, like I'm really surprised how much VR goodness they fit into it for its price point. I love my Index but you pay out the nose for every perk and I don't think anyone stands to gain a whole lot by "upgrading" from a Q2, if that what you already have. Especially if all you plan on doing is playing games.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 21:43
|
|
|
Maybe it's just my garbage eyes but the visual quality on the quest 2 doesn't seem so noticeably bad that it ruins my VR experience
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 21:55
|
|
|
But Facebook, guys. But Facebook.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 22:27
|
|
|
Dehumanize yourself and face to At least you can take solace that zuck's crew has to sort through all the video data of your weenis when you get a Q2.
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 22:28
|
|
|
King Vidiot posted:But Facebook, guys. But Facebook. *comes running into the thread, raspy breathed and covered in sweat* FACEBOOK?! LEMME TELL YA WHAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 22:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 6, 2024 14:27 |
|
|
Well maybe I'm covered in sweat because I just played two rounds of Thrill of the Fight on my INDEX until my headset screen went blank again
|
|
#
?
Sep 21, 2021 22:37
|
|