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It's me, I hate cars. I drive my car maybe once a week on average. I walk, bike, or take the bus otherwise. And I don't even live in a real city. We need an urbanism thread too
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Fitzy Fitz posted:It's me, I hate cars. I drive my car maybe once a week on average. I walk, bike, or take the bus otherwise. And I don't even live in a real city. urbanism is just sparkling car hatred, post it itt
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Fitzy Fitz posted:We need an urbanism thread too i agree. urbanism and cars are only linked due to politics and industrial bribery (aka politics). they are not inextricably linked and cars/motor vehicles can exist in a world based around very dense urban cores (just keep the cars out)
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Sep 22, 2021 15:54
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https://twitter.com/kevinverhoff/status/1439942266118885377?s=20
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Sep 22, 2021 15:55
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vyelkin posted:urbanism is just sparkling car hatred, post it itt 
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Sep 22, 2021 15:55
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Every pedestrian: YES WE KNOW
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Sep 22, 2021 15:56
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Polo-Rican posted:This is a feature not a bug! drivers used to be much more visible in older cars... the first cars were essentially convertibles. As time has gone on, car design has evolved to make the driver more anonymous. when's the last time you saw a convertible for sale? yeah it has to do with anonymization and not safety. you’re right. I never see convertibles every single day on the highway
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Sep 22, 2021 15:57
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docbeard posted:Every pedestrian: YES WE KNOW true lol. I’ve never seen a biker signal they were going to turn or actually stop at stop signs/red lights
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Sep 22, 2021 15:58
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docbeard posted:Every pedestrian: YES WE KNOW lol Every day I commute by bike I get to decide which group I'm going to annoy: the drivers late for work or the pedestrians with their earbuds in who stick to the middle of the multi-use path.
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Sep 22, 2021 15:58
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Fitzy Fitz posted:lol Around here we at least mostly have both sidewalks and dedicated bike lanes. Still, we should unite in solidarity against the true hated enemy: scooters
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Sep 22, 2021 16:00
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A scooterer has never done me wrong
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Sep 22, 2021 16:01
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vyelkin posted:
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Sep 22, 2021 16:03
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Around here at least, the people who used to be the most idiotic and dangerous kind of cyclist all converted to those e-scooters they are attracted to parking garage entrances and obstructed view intersections with traffic that doesn't stop It's a shame that they're basically the future of non-ICE routine transit since more efficient ICE like motor scooters are seen as an admission of somehow getting enough DUIs to have your license suspended
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Sep 22, 2021 16:04
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These old and new side by sides are going to be very helpful next time somebody says the problem isn't landlords or speculation, but lack of density here's a start: replace dedicated parking with dedicated shops and housing like it was before
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Sep 22, 2021 16:05
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you can also just dig and put the parking under the earth. but that’s far less preferable to good public transit
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Sep 22, 2021 16:11
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indigi posted:yeah it has to do with anonymization and not safety. you’re right. I remember the old days when people claimed they were buying suvs because of "safety"... does anyone actually bother with that bullshit excuse any more lol it's also the most antisocial type of safety imaginable — "I'll be safe (at the expense of everyone else)." a big reason pedestrian and cyclist deaths have gone up recently is because these "safer" vehicles obliterate anyone on foot
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Sep 22, 2021 16:14
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Polo-Rican posted:I remember the old days when people claimed they were buying suvs because of "safety"... does anyone actually bother with that bullshit excuse any more lol who said anything about SUVs
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Sep 22, 2021 16:20
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I walked to work for years and gently caress bicyclists who ride on sidewalks walk crew > bike crew
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Sep 22, 2021 16:21
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actionjackson posted:I walked to work for years and gently caress bicyclists who ride on sidewalks hmm, maybe gently caress drivers who make streets unsafe for bikes
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Sep 22, 2021 16:24
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just ban cars and then cyclists and trams can share the streets and pedestrians can have the sidewalks, problem solved
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Sep 22, 2021 16:25
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actionjackson posted:walk crew > bike crew a common brain problem among drivers is assuming that pedestrians and cyclists are completely different groups, as if cyclists don't also walk places, or people who walk can't also ride a bike
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Sep 22, 2021 16:27
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The only bikes I ever see on sidewalks (not multi-use paths) are obviously pretty unsteady and new to bikes. They'd be risking their lives on the street, so I forgive them. I'm only on the street for a few minutes and still have frequent close calls with trucks because they're all driven by psychopaths.
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Sep 22, 2021 16:28
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Fitzy Fitz posted:hmm, maybe gently caress drivers who make streets unsafe for bikes because someone made something unsafe for me I will therefore make something unsafe for others. I’m very smart
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Sep 22, 2021 16:29
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Polo-Rican posted:a common brain problem among drivers is assuming that pedestrians and cyclists are completely different groups, as if cyclists don't also walk places, or people who walk can't also ride a bike you seem to be missing a key brain component
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Sep 22, 2021 16:30
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indigi posted:true lol. I’ve never seen a biker signal they were going to turn or actually stop at stop signs/red lights docbeard posted:Every pedestrian: YES WE KNOW actionjackson posted:I walked to work for years and gently caress bicyclists who ride on sidewalks And like clockwork here come the idiots to scuffle between pedestrians and bicyclists' ownership of 10% of the roadway while cars take up the other 90%
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Sep 22, 2021 16:30
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indigi posted:because someone made something unsafe for me I will therefore make something unsafe for others. I’m very smart another brain problem among drivers is being completely unable to differentiate "unsafe" and "annoying." you may find a bike on the sidewalk annoying, but you can look up the numbers - the number of pedestrians actually injured by bikes is so low it's practically nonexistent. most bikes (especially on sidewalks) are going like 4mph and weigh 15 pounds. if you go to a country like the netherlands or japan, bikes and pedestrians share sidewalks constantly and nobody blinks an eye
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Sep 22, 2021 16:33
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actionjackson posted:I walked to work for years and gently caress bicyclists who ride on sidewalks lol what a loving shock
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Sep 22, 2021 16:39
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:And like clockwork here come the idiots to scuffle between pedestrians and bicyclists' ownership of 10% of the roadway while cars take up the other 90%
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Sep 22, 2021 16:39
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All I am asking is for everyone, regardless of their mode of transportation, to have some consideration for the people around them. But that's probably liberalism.
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Sep 22, 2021 16:40
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"passing on your left!" *bikes glides smoothly past a pedestrian* "AAAA! AAAAAAA! I AM BEING ENDANGERED!!! WHERE'S MY METAL CAGE?"
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Sep 22, 2021 16:41
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docbeard posted:All I am asking is for everyone, regardless of their mode of transportation, to have some consideration for the people around them. But that's probably liberalism. "All Vehicles Matter" I post from behind the wheel of my chevy tahoe as I vaporize a dozen kindergartners crossing at a crosswalk I couldn't even see
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Sep 22, 2021 16:42
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jesus christ lmao
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Polo-Rican posted:another brain problem among drivers is being completely unable to differentiate "unsafe" and "annoying." you may find a bike on the sidewalk annoying, but you can look up the numbers - the number of pedestrians actually injured by bikes is so low it's practically nonexistent. most bikes (especially on sidewalks) are going like 4mph and weigh 15 pounds. if you go to a country like the netherlands or japan, bikes and pedestrians share sidewalks constantly and nobody blinks an eye to drive this point home - a cyclist and their bike weighing a combined 200 lb hauling rear end at 40 km/h has a kinetic energy of ~5.5 KJ, a 3000 lb car crawling at parking lot speeds of 20 km/h has a kinetic energy of almost 6 times that at ~29 KJ. a brand new f150 speeding at 80 km/h in a 50 has ~561 KJ of energy
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Sep 22, 2021 16:44
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I don't even drive but go off I guess.
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actionjackson posted:I walked to work for years and gently caress bicyclists who ride on sidewalks lmao gently caress off you have the dumbest opinions
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one time an old lady in my city died after being hit by a bicycle and it made the news for what felt like weeks, meanwhile there were hundreds of annual deaths from people being hit by cars that nobody even bothered to report on because it's just expected
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docbeard posted:I don't even drive but go off I guess. alas, car culture brain comes for us all
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Just wait til the thread finds out that sometimes people get hit by trains.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:hmm, maybe gently caress drivers who make streets unsafe for bikes I should clarify, this was a road where there was a fully separated bike path on the other side, so they didn't really have any excuse if they didn't have that idgaf
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:to drive this point home - a cyclist and their bike weighing a combined 200 lb hauling rear end at 40 km/h has a kinetic energy of ~5.5 KJ, a 3000 lb car crawling at parking lot speeds of 20 km/h has a kinetic energy of almost 6 times that at ~29 KJ. to me, this is like describing the brightness of flashlights in terms of "candles"
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