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mawarannahr posted:why can’t western journalists write an article about China without the word “draconian”!? it's more pithy than "paper tiger"
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Sep 22, 2021 17:32
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mawarannahr posted:why can’t western journalists write an article about China without the word “draconian”!? draconian is of the same root as the word dragon, which makes it an appropriate word to use when describing the Middle Kingdom, whose denizens style themselves the descendants of the dragon
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Sep 22, 2021 17:35
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  The artist is definitely referencing the Anaconda Plan in the image, but China is the one doing it to the US? Maybe they originally were going to make the snake American, because the US strategy does seem to be a blockade of Asia. The author then realized that plan is ridiculous and changed the snake to represent Chinese influence.
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Sep 22, 2021 17:36
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Rutibex posted:if you want a reading list for communism school you are likely going to have to make it yourself. this is the best that western institutions have to offer: holy lmao
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Sep 22, 2021 17:40
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my favorite part is that they're too loving lazy to even read the fountainhead, they're getting assigned the movie
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Sep 22, 2021 17:42
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mawarannahr posted:why can’t western journalists write an article about China without the word “draconian”!? Alternatively 
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Sep 22, 2021 17:43
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At least its not the Atlas Shrugged 2-parter.
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Sep 22, 2021 17:51
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FrancisFukyomama posted:draconian is of the same root as the word dragon, which makes it an appropriate word to use when describing the Middle Kingdom, whose denizens style themselves the descendants of the dragon
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Sep 22, 2021 17:52
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I joined the green party so that my draconian policies do acid damage
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Sep 22, 2021 17:54
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FrancisFukyomama posted:wasn’t there a decent chunk of the tiananmen protesters that were anarchists/leftcoms/Maoists that wanted to rollback dengist reforms? I remember there being a faction that called itself the autonomous workers association that I’m guessing was either anarchist or leftcom from what i recall, yes. western portrayal of the protests, when elaborated on at all and not just left to the reader to assume, are that the protestors want bourgeois liberal democracy and were protesting against the literally 1984 red fash hitler 2 cpc. mostly it was protesting dengist reforms from a leftcom stance, as well as some more immediate economic concerns and issues, and the cpc was meeting with the students and protestors, trying to work out how to achieve some of the demands. where things got out of hand is when some bad actors (it was the CIA) jumped on the chance to try to foment color revolution, starting with stringing up pla members in an extremely grotesque way. with the US getting involved, paranoia kicked into high gear and things got out of hand. largely the PLA soldiers didn't want to, and went out of their way to avoid hurting people, but under orders to stop the protests by "any means necessary" it got more violent than it really should have been. still, the death toll from western sources are obscenely exaggerated. and just to be clear, like, contrary to western belief, they talk about these protests and the history and with criticism of how it was handled. deng was doing so immediately after it happened. my personal take on the whole thing is there was a lot of optimism and naivete, especially from students at the time, who didn't remember the opium wars or the KMT or other hosed up things foreign powers had hoisted on china and didn't know the modern version of that is the CIA turning airing your leftcom grievances into an opportunity to destabilize your communist government by murdering your classmates.
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Sep 22, 2021 18:11
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FrancisFukyomama posted:draconian is of the same root as the word dragon, which makes it an appropriate word to use when describing the Middle Kingdom, whose denizens style themselves the descendants of the dragon wait is this for real?? no loving chinese person thinks they are descended from a loving dragon you loving moronic dingus.
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Sep 22, 2021 18:16
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Agrajag posted:wait is this for real??
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Sep 22, 2021 18:18
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Agrajag posted:wait is this for real?? 
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Sep 22, 2021 18:18
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have you actually even talked to a chinese person?? i can guarantee none of us refer to ourselves as descendants of dragons you loving idiot oh right white people love to think that those backwards and weird orientals are so silly and actually think they are descendants of mythological creatures
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Sep 22, 2021 18:21
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listen here, sweaty
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Sep 22, 2021 18:22
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hot witch divorcee posted:listen here, sweaty you are sweaty because there is a descendant of the dragon nearby, and they have very warm breath
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Sep 22, 2021 18:22
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https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1440703059240255490?s=19 Taiwan wants in now too. https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1440656607512121364?s=19 Malaysia's defense minister heading to China to talk about the new pact between Australia, UK, and US.
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Sep 22, 2021 18:25
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Agrajag posted:wait is this for real??
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Sep 22, 2021 18:29
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Agrajag posted:have you actually even talked to a chinese person?? i can guarantee none of us refer to ourselves as descendants of dragons you loving idiot every single chinese person ive met has talked about being descended from a dragon, which dragon clan they were from, scale cleaning tips, etc
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Sep 22, 2021 18:29
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in China, people born in the year of the dragon are revered as elders regardless of their actual age
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Sep 22, 2021 18:34
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Agrajag posted:wait is this for real?? There was one of the most famous pop song called "Descendants of the Dragon" from the late 70s early 80s. It was probably one of if not the most popular pop song when Taiwan/HK pop singer became allowed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVH-KpN_VE
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Sep 22, 2021 18:54
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it’s one of those phrases that exists in Chinese but pretty much you never hear except in orientalist bullshit from western pundits, like mentioning the Mandate of Heaven when talking about contemporary Chinese politics, to emphasize how weird and inscrutable the celestial is to white audiences
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Sep 22, 2021 19:48
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FrancisFukyomama posted:it’s one of those phrases that exists in Chinese but pretty much you never hear except in orientalist bullshit from western pundits, like mentioning the Mandate of Heaven when talking about contemporary Chinese politics, to emphasize how weird and inscrutable the celestial is to white audiences It doesn't come up at all? US politics is full of weird phrases like that. Manifest Destiny, Monroe Doctrine, uh others I am not thinking of right now. Edit: I dunno mandate of heaven doesn't sound any more weird than divine right of kings. Even if it's used as a cudgel against Asians, westerners are just as guilty of weird poo poo like this. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 19:58 on Sep 22, 2021 |
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Sep 22, 2021 19:54
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claiming you’re descended from dragons is cool as gently caress idk why they wouldn’t do it more
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Sep 22, 2021 19:55
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I wonder if Chinese articles ever pull that bullshit, like going on a two paragraph tangent about what knights and the crusades are bc some dipshit senator talked about his “crusade against drugs” and then speculating that Sen. Alabaster Leeroy Johnson (AL-R) considers himself a chivalrous knight fighting against the saracen hashish and that by understanding the medieval codes of chivalry and knightly honor we can gain profound insight into the workings of American politics and thinking patterns
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Sep 22, 2021 19:58
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Lostconfused posted:It doesn't come up at all? Shining city on a hill (lol)
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Sep 22, 2021 20:00
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^ I still don't know what the gently caress that's supposed to mean.
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Sep 22, 2021 20:02
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It's a biblical reference to righteousness I think
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Sep 22, 2021 20:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KZq9puzLOE&t=119s
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Sep 22, 2021 20:07
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Also everything related to mormons.
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Sep 22, 2021 20:13
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Lostconfused posted:^ I still don't know what the gently caress that's supposed to mean. don’t hide your light under a bushel e: Matthew 5:14-16 quote:14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. indigi has issued a correction as of 20:18 on Sep 22, 2021 |
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Sep 22, 2021 20:15
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Agrajag posted:have you actually even talked to a chinese person?? i can guarantee none of us refer to ourselves as descendants of dragons you loving idiot
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Sep 22, 2021 20:34
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*Trump points at the outer wall of the Palace of Tranquil Longievity* Unbeliveable, what is this a family tree? I've built a lot of GREAT things but Kuai Xiang, what a guy!
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Sep 22, 2021 20:49
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greetings, noble descendants of the dragon. my people are called children of the corn
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Sep 22, 2021 20:56
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as a dragonkin i welcome my chinese brothers and sisters
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Sep 22, 2021 20:58
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Lostconfused posted:^ I still don't know what the gently caress that's supposed to mean.
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Sep 22, 2021 21:03
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"america is a shining city on a hill" *rapes and murders 50,000 nuns*
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Sep 22, 2021 21:04
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On the topic of raping nuns, it probably shouldn't surprise you that most Americans didn't learn about that phrase from reading the bible, but from Ronald Reagan when he founded the United States of America with Oliver North. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYiOUEjzZNs
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Sep 22, 2021 21:19
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i dont understand the difficulty with "shining city on a hill", it's literally what it says it is, maybe you are thinking too hard? there is a hill, with a city on top, and it is shining, maybe even a beacon. 
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Sep 22, 2021 21:48
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Giant piles of corpses and feces generate so much methane that you can power a grid with it. Technically a shining city on a hill.
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