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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
oh whats that bernie? joe sold you out? lmao eat my rear end

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



:hai:

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

:negative:

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Raskolnikov38 posted:

oh whats that bernie? joe sold you out? lmao eat my rear end

truly shocked his good friend would do this to him, this outcome was beyond anyone's anticipation

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Looking forward to Bernie's next tour to explain how whatever he got is the most amazing thing in human history beyond the dreams of mortals and gods alike.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Slurnie Kkkuckders

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Jayapal the only one I've seen making statements about the meeting(s) that don't provoke immediate trepidation

(which I suspect is more a triumph of image than reality, since they can always declare any thoroughly gutted "Build Back Better Act" passage a victory)

https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821530103926790?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821533329346573?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821536823283720?s=20

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

LGD posted:

Jayapal the only one I've seen making statements about the meeting(s) that don't provoke immediate trepidation

(which I suspect is more a triumph of image than reality, since they can always declare any thoroughly gutted "Build Back Better Act" passage a victory)

https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821530103926790?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821533329346573?s=20
https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1440821536823283720?s=20

This is her trying to put the best spin on progressives getting blown the gently caress out.

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

is pepsi ok posted:

The media misses him more than I miss the Taco Bell mexican pizza.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1440612351112192002?s=20

lol they want him back so bad. this is like an alcoholic drinking hand sanitizer to get a fix.

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I know congress spends way more time and money on way, way more useless and evil poo poo every single day but the havana act has crack pinged me in ways I never thought possible. this poo poo is too loving stupid and we're supposed to just walk around like yeah the cubans have super secret morgellons ray guns, of course. its loving weird as hell to live in a state that's increasingly rapidly circling a drain.

agreed and also, same

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

1stGear posted:

This is her trying to put the best spin on progressives getting blown the gently caress out.

eh I dunno, it reads more like a statement reiterating the case/original deal and pointing out their leverage in preparation for future negotiations (or action), if it was her spinning a blowout I'd expect more emphasis on how the party is uniting around Biden's grand vision of whatever leavings the Senate ultimately squeezes out

don't get me wrong, I fully expect Dem "progressives" to roll over like they always do, but (tea leaf reading that probably won't have any impact on the ultimate outcome) none of the statements we've heard are really incompatible with them actually holding their ground for the moment even if Biden pretty much told Sanders to sit and spin while the more conservative Senate Dems rewrite the bill into whatever they most desire (which indeed would better explain all the statements about how "calm" and "fine" everything is)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1440732946441269249

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



what in the world

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


https://twitter.com/ParkerScrivner/status/1440738640674451462?s=20

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

FormaldehydeSon posted:

Just shoot all the nukes directly up my rear end

Get thee behind me, SS-18 Satan

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

OP-upy democrats

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



we defeated Trump on Facebook

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


WHAT IF YOU TALK TO WYOMING VOTERS AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY WANT

https://twitter.com/wascallywabbi14/status/1440755080358084614?s=20

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

heres my take, whatever insane idiot racist gets elected in a republican primary is going to suck poo poo, and nevertheless will crush an equally lovely democrat in the general election

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I'd rather have a MAGA lunatic than literally a Cheney.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol supply management in hoi4 what the hell are you talking about


now hoi3, that was a game about supply management and OOB

gradenko_2000 posted:

I will die on the hill of HOI4 being worse than 2

Raskolnikov38 posted:

nah sliders for politics poo poo was dumb and it had too few provinces

Finally, some proper discussion... I will claim that HoI2 vanilla might be inferior to HoI4 vanilla, but Darkest Hour was better (don't recall the comparative quality of Arsenal of Democracy)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Finally, some proper discussion... I will claim that HoI2 vanilla might be inferior to HoI4 vanilla, but Darkest Hour was better (don't recall the comparative quality of Arsenal of Democracy)

Darkest Hour was indeed even better. Arsenal of Democracy had a lot of good ideas, particularly with combat, but the devs just stopped supporting it and it still has some persistent bugs to this day.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
arsenal of democracy was an attempt to beat hoi3 at # of provinces

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

arsenal of democracy was an attempt to beat hoi3 at # of provinces

AOD still used the default HOI2 map (which is why DH, having a new map, has a leg up on it)

you might be thinking of "Iron Cross", which was a third, disastrous spin-off of HOI2

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Isn't supply trains the biggest new feature in the next HoI4 DLC?

Salean
Mar 17, 2004

Homewrecker

Theres gonna be all kinds of trains!!

Dunno if theres optional leather outfits to wear while riding your favorite trains though

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i have like 1200 hours in hoi4 but its extremely funny that it took 5 or 6 years for them to implement trains, in a world war 2 game. cant wait though!!!!

Jay-V
Nov 8, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

I could really go for some Arroz ala Cubana right now

https://twitter.com/limitedmitch/status/1203793104899387395

it would be racist if the embodiment of death did not speak prefect patois!!!

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Salean posted:

Theres gonna be all kinds of trains!!

Dunno if theres optional leather outfits to wear while riding your favorite trains though

a part of me really wants armored trains to have the same mechanical impact as the insane french impressionist tree in what was it, kaiserreich
one where you have the option to destroy all your factories in the name of anti-civilization and then the next tree bit is "This Isn't Working"

'it turns out up-armoring a train is utterly loving pointless, they just blow up the tracks'

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

The real reason I never played as much HoI3 as I wanted is that early 3D Pdox games are just too drat ugly compared to the crisp pixel maps that came before

gradenko_2000 posted:

AOD still used the default HOI2 map (which is why DH, having a new map, has a leg up on it)

you might be thinking of "Iron Cross", which was a third, disastrous spin-off of HOI2

Searching around I can't really work out Iron Cross was a fan mod or official project, most forum results seem to yield only confusion. Wikipedia at least thinks you can install it on top of AoD or DH

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Toph Bei Fong posted:

Out here in the land of weird analogies, I got to thinking about the children's comedy film Angels in the Outfield, the 1994 remake of the old Paul Douglas/Janet Leigh vehicle from 1951. The remake stars Danny Glover, Tony Danza and Christopher Lloyd, and features such future stars as Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Adrien Brody, Matthew McConaughey, and Neal McDonough.

In this film, Gordon-Levitt is an abused child being abandoned by his motorcycle punk father. The father, played by Dermot Mulroney, wants to go ride his motorcycle around Oregon and Washington for a while, and so gives his 12 year old son up for adoption. Gordon-Levitt, naively, believes that his father is coming back, and asks when they can be a family again. In classic abusive fashion, setting up an ideal goal which can be worked towards but never achieved and thereby transfer fault on the victim for not achieving it, "I'd say when the Angels win the pennant," his father replies sarcastically, before putting on his sunglasses and speeding off on his motorcycle.

That evening, Gordon-Levitt prays to God to make the Angels (the baseball team) win the World Series, so he and his dad can be reunited. Hijinks insure when Gordon-Levitt and his friend Milton Davis Jr. go to a baseball game and see angels (the supernatural entities). They convince team manager Danny Glover that the angels (supernatural) are real. Christopher Lloyd and his troop of angels (supernatural) help Tony Danza play baseball better, and the Angels (the baseball team) win the world series.

But, it turns out, Dermot Mulroney doesn't care. He still wants to ride his motorcycle, not be a dad. Because this is a kid's movie, Gordon-Levitt is adopted by Danny Glover, and they live happily ever after.

The Democrats remind me a lot of Joseph Gordon-Levitt in this film: he doesn't get that his dad will never love him, no matter what he does, and, rather than accept this fact, he moves heaven and earth to try and fulfill what he thinks his dad wants. But, again, his dad wants to ride motorcycles and forget about his dead wife and maybe get drunk and bang the kind of guys and/or girls who hang out at motorcycle bars. The dad in this analogy is conservative voters in the suburbs. Or maybe Joseph Gordon-Levitt is democratic voters, and the dad is democratic politicians. It's something along those lines.

you know im not a dirtbag deadbeat dad motorcyclist but i kind of get the feeling that if there was visual evidence that god was real and responded to my son making a prayer wishing for the fulfillment of my preposterous request i might be slightly scared of getting smited if i didnt hold up my end of the deal

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Searching around I can't really work out Iron Cross was a fan mod or official project, most forum results seem to yield only confusion. Wikipedia at least thinks you can install it on top of AoD or DH

I actually own(ed) it! It was an official product that was sold for cash money.

Unlike AOD/DH, which were standalone programs, you needed HOI2 or AOD (and maybe DH, never tried combining with this one), and Iron Cross was like a mod that you'd install on top of them.

It was complete poo poo because they just made a bazillion provinces, but most of them were completely empty, as in no population/industry/resource stats. There were even some provinces that you couldn't click on because they were smaller than the icon for the division that was sitting on it.

Also, if you have like 80 provinces just for Poland, then the game completely breaks down because now it's impossible to have enough divisions to actually form a cohesive front line. The AI was completely incapable of dealing with this and the game was a complete joke.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Srice posted:

this is the most trite observation but if trump were still president and talked about how cuban headache rays are a serious threat then everyone would have a field day laughing about it, SNL would spend several weeks mocking it, etc

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

spacemang_spliff posted:

I try not to post sub 100 follower accounts and I didn't want to touch the poop but someone else has to see this

https://twitter.com/PresidentJose3/status/1440454451295244304

i read an interesting book review once that argued the dichotomy of king jr vs malcolm x is very misleading because they influenced each other and by the time of their deaths king jr was noticeably more militant while malcolm x was noticeably more conciliatory

of course no one likes to talk about this because the big compromises were king jr questioning the efficacy of democracy at all and malcolm x deciding that not all crackers were irredeemable racists

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

spacemang_spliff posted:

lol we're definitely going to war with China at some point

https://twitter.com/KarlMathiesen/status/1440398670713610244

Glad someone's saving the planet

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.


Bernie is basically Night Owl II, completely impotent.

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galenanorth
May 19, 2016

https://twitter.com/SocialismIsDone/status/1440823305066332172

I mean, that's what happens when you keep getting asked something you've already answered by people who are re-iterating their question. Here, that means politicians who want to talk for the same of putting on a show of how they are a dignitary who loves to hold talks, as well as journalists who want to keep a stream of articles flowing

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 02:27 on Sep 23, 2021

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1440747620834562053

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/mkraju/status/1440822747026788369

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Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnkartch/status/1440746418835058689

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