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goddamnedtwisto posted:Before they invented the dry gas meter, the only way of counting gas was with a wet meter, which bubbled the gas up through water to turn a paddle wheel to drive the counter. In order to be even vaguely accurate these meters had to be huge - like a metre or so across - and also could only deal with large flows, the tiny amounts used in homes were basically uncountable, so everyone just paid a fixed weekly amount based on how many gas jets (for lighting) and burners they had in their house. And that’s why they are still called gas meters.
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serious gaylord posted:SSE or British Gas. SSE was bought by Ovo, who are apparently now the 2nd or 3rd biggest supplier in the UK I used to work for Ovo, and while it was a poo poo job (customer service) and I got sacked (lol) I felt that they were a pretty decent company. I'd go for them if I were in the UK
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serious gaylord posted:Yeah he said that so that the 'left' wouldnt immediately fall into doing exactly what the right did and just wreck things for the sake of it. As soon as Kiers colours came out he was ripping on him as he should do. we're going back to the golden age... 2012... her maj is parachuting in with James Bond!
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Paperhouse posted:SSE was bought by Ovo, who are apparently now the 2nd or 3rd biggest supplier in the UK Hah that's funny, I work at ovo and used to be in CS too but that was waaaay back like 7 years ago, in a much nicer job now. Can confirm that ovo isn't going under any time soon and as far as big private energy firms go (please nationalise for gods sake) it's an alright one. Although the CEO is still a massive dick but that's just par for the course I guess.
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i've seen the accusation of Starmer plagiarising Cameron elsewhere. don't think it's necessarily the case, Starmer's precisely the kind of dupe who would wholeheartedly buy into and believe as a fundamental part of his being the PR horseshit that Cameron at least had the nous to know he was spewing. also Starmer's advisers are cut from the same cloth and will be relying on those ideas as a common sense floating around in the political consciousness. and never fear for Owen Jones! no doubt as soon as the first softest of soft-left challengers presents themselves against Starmer, Jones will be back on the unity horse again ed: not paying the aminal tax, for shame  the Hooded Pitohui CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I was thinking Welcome to the patriarchy, you'll be seeing a salary/pension increase shortly.
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how on earth do 'they' know whether someone is trans or not unless, I dunno, they issue transpersons with armbands, with maybe some sort of pink square or blue circle or green star on them?
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It really can’t be overstated what a failure of regulation this whole energy thing is. OFGEM have been encouraging as many of these tiny little energy companies to start up as possible with no capital requirements, no hedging requirements, no financial buffer whatsoever against a price spike. They’re essentially all just a commodities trading bet that the price of gas wouldn’t go up too much, where if they’re wrong they go bust immediately. It’s like if the FCA ran a years long campaign encouraging everyone to switch to new startup banks, but didn’t require those new banks to follow any capital regulations whatsoever and then looked surprised when everyone loses their cash. peanut- fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Don't forget Centrica, which owns the actual gas network, just recently closed the largest gas storage facility in the country because - after years of private sector efficiency - it was dangerous, and uneconomical to repair. Of course unspoken in that decision was the fact that Centrica make more money from this kind of shortage - natural gas demand is extremely inelastic, even more so than electricity, because it's not like most people are absent-mindedly leaving the cooker on for days at a time and a price rise reminds them to switch it off.
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This is a bit sad: Of their top rated companies at least 2 have gone bust recently and of their worst rated, it looks like those most likely to pick up the business of those whose suppliers have gone bust are in the worst rated. https://www.simplyswitch.com/energy/guides/best-and-worst-energy-companies-2021/
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Aphex- posted:Hah that's funny, I work at ovo and used to be in CS too but that was waaaay back like 7 years ago, in a much nicer job now. Can confirm that ovo isn't going under any time soon and as far as big private energy firms go (please nationalise for gods sake) it's an alright one. Although the CEO is still a massive dick but that's just par for the course I guess. Aren't Ovo Tory part super-donors? I know there was a list out last year that had them on (along with all the usual suspects) and it was company donations, not just "CEOs personal donations" (though I know for some companies there isn't a big difference). EDIT: I checked and it seems I was wrong and it's just the CEO's personal donations and below comment notes this DroneRiff fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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DroneRiff posted:Aren't Ovo Tory part super-donors? I know there was a list out last year that had them on (along with all the usual suspects) and it was company donations, not just "CEOs personal donations" (though I know for some companies there isn't a big difference). I know the CEO is a tory donor, not sure how the company donations work but it's still a private company and which he owns so maybe?  All I know is that the vast majority of people who do work here do it for the renewable philosophy and it's only when you go super high up that the cunts emerge. The company is very good to its employees though which is honestly why I've stayed for so long.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Don't forget Centrica, which owns the actual gas network, just recently closed the largest gas storage facility in the country because - after years of private sector efficiency - it was dangerous, and uneconomical to repair. Of course unspoken in that decision was the fact that Centrica make more money from this kind of shortage - natural gas demand is extremely inelastic, even more so than electricity, because it's not like most people are absent-mindedly leaving the cooker on for days at a time and a price rise reminds them to switch it off. Centrica don't own any network now, it's National Grid at Transmission level, then Cadent (McQuarie, Qatar), SGN (Canadian Pensions), NGN (Hong Kong Investment Firms) and Wales and West (Hong Kong Investment Firms)
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forkboy84 posted:When you're too loving worthless even for Behr boy have you hosed up somewhere along the line someone turned him off and on again and he has resumed normal operation https://twitter.com/rafaelbehr/status/1440933105381089285?s=19 https://twitter.com/rafaelbehr/status/1440936738730414080?s=19 https://twitter.com/rafaelbehr/status/1440939157048680448?s=19
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I also love essays, especially from politicians, love to read essays all day long.
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Total Meatlove posted:Centrica don't own any network now, it's National Grid at Transmission level, then Cadent (McQuarie, Qatar), SGN (Canadian Pensions), NGN (Hong Kong Investment Firms) and Wales and West (Hong Kong Investment Firms) Yeah I brain-farted there and I really can't work out how (maybe some distant tattered synapse remembering that they were once British Gas so owned the whole lot? Who can tell). Point remains though, there's almost no slack in the gas network any more, because there's no economic incentive to guard against sudden price shocks - the big players are perfectly happy to absorb the occasional spike (especially as they're generally also wholesalers) if it saves them day-to-day costs in the good times, and the fact that it drives the smaller players out of the market is a happy side effect.
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I want my labour leader to be as far removed from actual labour as possible
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Ralf got his marching orders this morning.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah I brain-farted there and I really can't work out how (maybe some distant tattered synapse remembering that they were once British Gas so owned the whole lot? Who can tell). Oh absolutely, the drive to JIT deliver utilities is a loving nightmare. Funny how HK own the gas and electricity distribution networks for London as well. I can't imagine the same flying anywhere else tbh.
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This is all over some Russian dude profiting off the annexation of ukraine isn’t it? Something about how he wants a new pipeline, the EU haven’t given permission and he’s cut the gas off out of revenge.
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The OVO man also sells flying electric cars... think I might have to switch to them.
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Flayer posted:Blame Russia is only reason number 2, the main culprit is the damnable Chinese deciding they want to use lots of gas at the same time everyone else wants to use lots of gas https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/21/what-caused-the-uks-energy-crisis quote:China’s post-Covid bounce back the fact we have a tiny amount of gas storage gets an oblique mention but as far as I can tell it's not explained that the storage facility was sold off, as this is clearly less relevant than China specifically having increasing demand for gas at the same time everywhere else has an increasing demand for gas
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When I was looking for a new job about t years ago, Ovo were one of those companies I was looking into joining. At that time it seemed like a lot of staff were reporting that it was a crap place to work so I never went for it. It's why I moved away when Ovo bought my last electricity provider. I hope that they are better now.
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Who was it who said….Guze posted:Find something you love as much as this guy loves getting coronavirus
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remember he nearly died that time from being full of poo poo
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CGI Stardust posted:i've seen the accusation of Starmer plagiarising Cameron elsewhere. don't think it's necessarily the case, Starmer's precisely the kind of dupe who would wholeheartedly buy into and believe as a fundamental part of his being the PR horseshit that Cameron at least had the nous to know he was spewing. also Starmer's advisers are cut from the same cloth and will be relying on those ideas as a common sense floating around in the political consciousness.
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idk he reiterated his commitment to hard working families a lot, which in combination with his opposition to "divisive identity politics" seems pretty suggestive
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https://twitter.com/JoStevensLabour/status/1440947422411345921 Labour Austerity is back baby! It's poo poo again! Awooo ( wolf howl)
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/JoStevensLabour/status/1440947422411345921 I hate this poo poo so much. Show me a large private company that is 100% efficient and not at all wasteful.
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The government should be run like a business. Now if I was running a business that could borrow for 40 years for a fraction of a percent the first thing I'd do is raise finance for a housing bond and collect properties that I'd rent out below market rates in the short term to corner the market, and drive out competition, thereby no not like that
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They just mean "no pay rises"
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So the new episode of Podcasting is Praxis dropped, and they have new artwork for the show. And the artwork shows Great Britain with the Hammer and Sickle over it. But as far as I can see it doesn't show Northern Ireland on the image. So the podcast image seems to be showing Great Britain as opposed to showing the United Kingdom.
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The Question IRL posted:So the new episode of Podcasting is Praxis dropped, and they have new artwork for the show. Yes. Seems appropriate.
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The Question IRL posted:So the new episode of Podcasting is Praxis dropped, and they have new artwork for the show. Maybe they're just getting ahead of the 2024 Reunification, seems like a lot of effort to re-do the logo every time England loses a colony
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The Question IRL posted:So the new episode of Podcasting is Praxis dropped, and they have new artwork for the show. Northern Ireland is no longer part of the UK since December 2020 hth. Someone tell Arlene Foster and Mason Boyne.
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one of my neighbours is building a summerhouse and it is an absolute abomination
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:one of my neighbours is building a summerhouse and it is an absolute abomination Is he just making it out of stuff he found in a skip?
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The Question IRL posted:So the new episode of Podcasting is Praxis dropped, and they have new artwork for the show. 
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CGI Stardust posted:and never fear for Owen Jones! no doubt as soon as the first softest of soft-left challengers presents themselves against Starmer, Jones will be back on the unity horse again apart from a brief wobble he was always pro-Corbyn, I generally think he's a good egg and the only one left at the Guardian after Gary Younge moved to America. I don't think him saying 'ok if Starmer is actually serious about this whole unity candidate thing let's not gently caress his poo poo up from the get-go' was a bad take, and he has fully recognised that Starmer is a lying shitweasel since.
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