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Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

blunt posted:

Why though? It's 2021 - at any given moment there's like 10 devices around me that tell the time.

I understand there's people who collect nice analogue watches, but they're also probably not the people concerned with keeping their Teams status active...

this might surprise you but i haven't actually bought an analogue watch this decade, and perhaps even this century. but it's not like they just disappear into the aether, y'know? i did not expect this much pushback on people having a watch tucked away in the back of a jewelry box or desk drawer or something

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

PhazonLink posted:

the best argument i heard is that some people have such little selfcontrol that just checking their phone makes them open/unlock it and then they have to do doomscrolling and other dumb smart phone things.

Also just checking your wirst is an easy simple action.
I bought a fitbit which both tells me the time and tells me why I'm fat. :v:

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Son of Rodney posted:

Just use caffeine instead of doing all these complicated hardware solutions. No install, just click on it and go take a nap. Works perfectly.

Caffeine only works for Slack until you open the app on your phone to reply to someone who DM'd you. At that point your desktop copy of Slack boots you over to being inactive until there's a physical keyboard/mouse input again.

Rockman Reserve posted:

this might surprise you but i haven't actually bought an analogue watch this decade, and perhaps even this century. but it's not like they just disappear into the aether, y'know? i did not expect this much pushback on people having a watch tucked away in the back of a jewelry box or desk drawer or something

Admittedly I was only really thinking about my age range when I typed my answer and at the beginning of this century I would have barely even known what an Analogue watch was (a very slight exaggeration, but the only watches i've ever owned were a Disney one when I was like 4 and a fitness one now)

blunt fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Sep 22, 2021

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Collateral Damage posted:

I bought a fitbit which both tells me the time and tells me why I'm fat. :v:

good for you. no snark. most fitness watches are better than smart watches imo because they have less tech engagement traps.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!
Dumb poo poo neurotic GBS does

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

I have an automatic Seiko because I just wanna know the time sometimes.

Also I have a boss who not only doesn't micromanage, but buys us donuts and rips into people trying to waste out time by trying arguing processes like "Call the service desk and get a ticket in".

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Thanks for the arduino thing I’m totally gonna do it.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Rockman Reserve posted:

all of you loving nerds with your shell scripts and stuff, just set your mouse on the face of an analogue watch, like why the hell are you making this poo poo so complicated lol

You're going to have to draw me a diagram here because all my analogue watches have no moving parts on the outside? Non-hosed up watches have glass over the face.

Show me your hosed up watches.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Aramoro posted:

You're going to have to draw me a diagram here because all my analogue watches have no moving parts on the outside? Non-hosed up watches have glass over the face.

Show me your hosed up watches.

Mice work on image tracking now so the hands of a watch below the mouse registers as movement.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Tarkus posted:

Mice work on image tracking now so the hands of a watch below the mouse registers as movement.

The movement of a second hand will be way too slight to move the mouse cursor surely? And the glass would interfere with it anyway.

Someone make a video of this working.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Aramoro posted:

The movement of a second hand will be way too slight to move the mouse cursor surely? And the glass would interfere with it anyway.

Someone make a video of this working.

second hands move a fair amount close-up. I'd try it if I had a watch here.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
double clicking a file to prevent teams from setting your status to "away" while you're smoking weed and watching porn: thats nerd poo poo
rigging up a rube goldberg machine to make my mouse move periodically: now thats paper

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Tarkus posted:

second hands move a fair amount close-up. I'd try it if I had a watch here.

Mine doesn't visibly move the mouse, but the hands are tiny white slivers on a dark background. One with a white face and larger second hand might work better.

Critical
Aug 23, 2007

TjyvTompa posted:

double clicking a file to prevent teams from setting your status to "away" while you're smoking weed and watching porn: thats nerd poo poo
rigging up a rube goldberg machine to make my mouse move periodically: now thats paper

jesus christ people have to do this? I've been at my gig 8 days and my boss has had teams set to away the entire time. you message her and she gets back to you when she can like a normal human being

so far my place is pretty sick. two days a week remote (some people ignore this and never come into the office) show up when you want, wear what you want (both within reason.) first day of training was literally a half hour. Here's your laptop, oh you know how to work a spreadsheet and copy and paste, cross reference everything you need on this page, go with god my son. she's checked in with me like three times and actually let me work.

we of course have one guy who HAS to wander through the office while talking on his phone as loudly as possible. he was milling around reception and one of the ladies up front stuck her head out of her cubicle and said "please go away" and he slunk out like a kicked puppy.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray
Guy in the office next to me just tested positive for covid, he's vaccinated. Only came in on Monday but it's impossible to know, I could've been exposed. Work wants me to somehow get tested this afternoon on my own time and with my own money then show up tomorrow.

Lol no. gently caress you. First of all I'm getting tested tomorrow during work hours as I wfh. And I'm not going back to the office until every single person here has tested negative and can prove it.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Hyrax Attack! posted:

one of them tried to have a friendly coworker fired after he caught a major problem they were trying to push into production, they can try their luck with the help desk.

I would like to know more

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Aramoro posted:

The movement of a second hand will be way too slight to move the mouse cursor surely? And the glass would interfere with it anyway.

Someone make a video of this working.

Not making a video but I just tried it and it works fine.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

.

Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 28, 2021

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

I got a new role, still doing QC but in a different department. Right in time for Q4 which is appearing to be completely bugfuck crazy due to supply chain related issues.

CEO fired the VP Ops and GM of the division I'm moving into and is ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL like Harbinger

Our GSC team has been told to source parts from wherever and however they can. This includes eBay and Amazon.

They have not hired my replacement yet, I will have 1 week to train them in a role that takes 2 months to get to minimum competency.

this is gonna rule.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

TjyvTompa posted:

double clicking a file to prevent teams from setting your status to "away" while you're smoking weed and watching porn: thats nerd poo poo
rigging up a rube goldberg machine to make my mouse move periodically: now thats paper

i don’t personally consider setting one thing on top of another to be a rube goldberg machine but you do you, still kinda blown away by the “lmao who the gently caress has a watch? what you need is an arduino from a decade ago” vibe in here

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
*Crushing pet mouse with limestone sundial*

GUYS THIS IS STUPID IT'S NOT WORKING!

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
I use MouseMove to move the mouse and Don't Sleep to stop the group policy that locks the PC if you're idle for 10 mins (who's going to access that data if I step away, my dog? lol), but it doesn't matter when Teams randomly decides to bug out. I can be actively working and I'll notice in the taskbar that Teams has marked me as away. I have to bring it to the foreground for a few seconds for it to decide I'm active, even though I've been typing away in a different window.

Betazoid
Aug 3, 2010

Hallo. Ik ben een leeuw.

GI_Clutch posted:

I use MouseMove to move the mouse and Don't Sleep to stop the group policy that locks the PC if you're idle for 10 mins (who's going to access that data if I step away, my dog? lol), but it doesn't matter when Teams randomly decides to bug out. I can be actively working and I'll notice in the taskbar that Teams has marked me as away. I have to bring it to the foreground for a few seconds for it to decide I'm active, even though I've been typing away in a different window.

I don't think there's a way to fix that, but I'd love to hear a solution if anyone knows.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.
Yeah, teams frequently just randomly decides I’m away when I’ve been actively typing for an hour. No idea what it’s basing it on.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
its whatever black box metric Microsoft decided means away.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
So your activity is solely judged by instant messenger?

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I had a boss that would message you for being away from Skype for more than 15 minutes. Jokes on her I just put a penny to stick the ctrl button down to keep it active.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I tried the mouse-on-watch thing but can't tell if it's working. I work from home and nobody really cares what my computers are doing.

Anyone using Chrome who just updated to version 94 might want to be aware they stuck a new API in there that allows a website to track your active status, and god knows what else. It probably hasn't been implemented anywhere yet, but Mozilla and Webkit have both weighed in that it is a terrible, privacy-violating thing. Oh, and it defaults to being on. I've left myself notes to change the privacy settings on all the machines I interact with that have Chrome on them.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


CaptainSarcastic posted:

I tried the mouse-on-watch thing but can't tell if it's working. I work from home and nobody really cares what my computers are doing.

Anyone using Chrome who just updated to version 94 might want to be aware they stuck a new API in there that allows a website to track your active status, and god knows what else. It probably hasn't been implemented anywhere yet, but Mozilla and Webkit have both weighed in that it is a terrible, privacy-violating thing. Oh, and it defaults to being on. I've left myself notes to change the privacy settings on all the machines I interact with that have Chrome on them.

Instructions to disable this are here.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Rockman Reserve posted:

all of you loving nerds with your shell scripts and stuff, just set your mouse on the face of an analogue watch, like why the hell are you making this poo poo so complicated lol

Won't work for laptops.

The truest easiest way is to make a PowerPoint slide show with two slides that go on for infinite time (or 99999 minutes or whatever). Just press "play slideshow" and that's it. Computer never locks or goes to sleep.

My IT department would absolutely drop kick me in the head if I tried to run a power shell script or install a mouse jiggler.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Hook up an external mouse.

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
am i stupid for looking at most "specialized" CRM systems aimed at small businesses as overpriced poo poo you dont need?

dk2m
May 6, 2009
I genuinely cannot believe that it seems people have to fake their office status? What the gently caress? I have never once given a poo poo about it, never been asked about it, and never asked any of my direct reports because I’m not their dad

Spatule
Mar 18, 2003

20 Blunts posted:

am i stupid for looking at most "specialized" CRM systems aimed at small businesses as overpriced poo poo you dont need?

You need *something* to manage your customers, and there are CRMs that are like 20$ a month and can generate quotes, do inventory management, remind you of tasks etc. Sure, you can do all that with gmail and excel, but it's gonna be extra work.

Catastrophe
Oct 5, 2007

Committed to burn twice as long and half as bright

dk2m posted:

I genuinely cannot believe that it seems people have to fake their office status? What the gently caress? I have never once given a poo poo about it, and have never been asked about it because it, and never asked any of my direct reports because I’m not their dad

Welcome to the world of micromanagement. I had to be careful taking lunch breaks because my manager would scold me if he saw that my Away status had been there for more than the allotted time.

I did have one manager at my last job who trusted me, let me do my thing, praised me for a job well done, and would occasionally do things like send me free gift games on Steam. He even once carried a couch across the building into the room I worked in because I threw out my neck badly and couldn't sit upright anymore so he was concerned. That guy, I'm still friends with. That guy is a good guy. edit: And you know what, I worked harder for his department than in any other job I had at that company because he made me want to. He didn't force me to. He didn't demand me to. He didn't threaten me if I didn't. He made me actually want to so I did. edit2: and that same dude would do things like invited another person in the department over to his house for Thanksgiving dinner because they had recently moved here and didn't have friends or family to spend it with. Doggone it, he was an awesome manager.

Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Sep 23, 2021

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

dk2m posted:

I genuinely cannot believe that it seems people have to fake their office status? What the gently caress? I have never once given a poo poo about it, never been asked about it, and never asked any of my direct reports because I’m not their dad

turns out many companies have several hierarchical tiers of management that literally add zero value to anything and that was thrown into the spotlight when everyone started WFH. some of these useless seat fillers decided to try to be proactive by becoming weird productivity snitches, because hey, who are you gonna fire, the guy making manager level pay who doesn’t have any real work, or a guy that takes an extra long lunch twice a week that the first guy tattled about?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

ultrafilter posted:

Instructions to disable this are here.

Super sketchy. I can't find any way to navigate to the page to disable it. You have to manually enter the address, and needs to be a capital 'D' or it'll redirect to regular settings page.

chrome://settings/content/idleDetection

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Just search settings for "actively". It shows up there.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

dk2m posted:

I genuinely cannot believe that it seems people have to fake their office status? What the gently caress? I have never once given a poo poo about it, never been asked about it, and never asked any of my direct reports because I’m not their dad

It's because they made a change to Teams where it doesn't deliver messages to you if you are in "away" status. If you just sit with the laptop open beside you you will miss stuff unless you have some way of keeping it "alive". Simple as that.

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Catastrophe posted:

Welcome to the world of micromanagement. I had to be careful taking lunch breaks because my manager would scold me if he saw that my Away status had been there for more than the allotted time.

I did have one manager at my last job who trusted me, let me do my thing, praised me for a job well done, and would occasionally do things like send me free gift games on Steam. He even once carried a couch across the building into the room I worked in because I threw out my neck badly and couldn't sit upright anymore so he was concerned. That guy, I'm still friends with. That guy is a good guy. edit: And you know what, I worked harder for his department than in any other job I had at that company because he made me want to. He didn't force me to. He didn't demand me to. He didn't threaten me if I didn't. He made me actually want to so I did. edit2: and that same dude would do things like invited another person in the department over to his house for Thanksgiving dinner because they had recently moved here and didn't have friends or family to spend it with. Doggone it, he was an awesome manager.

Dang that does sound like a good manager.

Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 28, 2021

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