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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

deoju posted:

"Real punk died with Sid Vicious."

nobody says this

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ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Ok Comboomer posted:

nobody says this

our parents who thought the clash was punk possibly did

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Ok Comboomer posted:

nobody says this

Literally the first result when I googled "when did punk die"
http://explosivepolitics.com/blog/1978-punk-is-dead-where-have-you-been/

quote:

By late 1978, punk is dead. It had lost its energy while other youth movements moved in to takeover by which point it had gone ‘overground’ anyway, having largely been co-opted by the mainstream. Sid Vicious’ untimely death in early 1979 is seen as the symbolic termination point.

root beer
Nov 13, 2005

GWBBQ posted:

Smash also has to be up there as far as cost of production vs revenue, it only cost a few thousand dollars.

I wondered how Nirvana’s Bleach would compare, as it only cost about $600 to record (not sure about full production costs), but Smash sold 3x as many copies in the US alone, so never mind pun half-intended

mostlygray posted:

I still listen to the old stuff though. I play a few of their songs on guitar. I sing a lot of them all the time to irritate my kids. I just think something changed at "Factory Showroom" and I just decided I didn't like their stuff anymore.

I only vaguely knew of TMBG in the ‘90s from the episode of Tiny Toon Adventures and, for some reason, Dr. Worm. My wife got me into them when I met her in 2000, and even after all that, my favorite work of theirs is still from was when it was just two guys with a guitar, an accordion, and a tape machine. Not that Flood and Apollo 18 (and sure, John Henry) aren’t great, but they were a little less… weird. They’re great live, at least they were in 2005 anyway.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

our parents who thought the clash was punk possibly did

The Clash were punk, though, so…

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

our parents who thought the clash was punk possibly did

Sid Vicious was dead before the clash released their best/most important work. Also he was never in the clash.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



chglcu posted:

The Clash were punk, though, so…

No, they were not.

Ok Comboomer posted:

Sid Vicious was dead before the clash released their best/most important work. Also he was never in the clash.

Which means anyone who would have those two opinions would be a bit dumb. I think these people exist can technically exist.

ThisIsJohnWayne has a new favorite as of 23:01 on Sep 22, 2021

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
I hope a lot of people (well mostly me and other old cranks with HBO) just see the Cobain biopic Montage of Heck and never listen to the music.

Just whoa that guy was nuts but I don't listen to classic rock.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

No, they were not.

What a strange thing to say.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Trabant posted:

What a strange thing to say.

You're a strange thing to say :bahgawd:

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

No, they were not.

I’m pushing 40, so my days of arguing about what punk is are long behind me.



























but i’m right, you’re wrong

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

Ambitious Spider posted:

In high school in the late 90s/early 2000s I was very indignant when I told someone asking about my dead Kennedy’s shirt that they were punk, and they responded “oh like offspring or Green Day!”

I was a major pretentious rear end in a top hat with music for too long. I was the kid in high school who listened to bands like Mogwai, At the Drive-In, and Sparta and was the only person who had their t-shirts which were on constant weekly rotation.

I also forsook Metallica by high school and was all in on Dream Theater and hailing Mike Portnoy as a drum god while poo pooing virtually all others, not realizing some drummers are considered great because of what they add to their genre, not how technical they are.

I had a gently caress ton of growing up to do.

Dillbag
Mar 4, 2007

Click here to join Lem Lee in the Hell Of Being Cut To Pieces
Nap Ghost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMuElf1_OoM

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.
There were a couple tracks in the listing that were at least punk adjacent. Otherwise, I’d assume that was a parody.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
How that’s labelled “punk” and not “pop/top100” just blows my mind. It is a standard NOW thats what I call CD.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Yeah!

chglcu posted:

There were a couple tracks in the listing that were at least punk adjacent. Otherwise, I’d assume that was a parody.

Yeah.

dialhforhero posted:

How that’s labelled “punk” and not “pop/top100” just blows my mind. It is a standard NOW thats what I call CD.

Yeah!

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you
Behold: heavy metal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTjLfFTKTE

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
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RadiRoot has a new favorite as of 08:02 on Sep 23, 2021

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!
The most 90s genre was surely grunge?

https://youtu.be/oryYHfZlqF0

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Disco Pope posted:

The most 90s genre was surely grunge?

https://youtu.be/oryYHfZlqF0

It's absolutely eurodance.

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON
it's whatever was your favorite in 1994

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Disco Pope posted:

The most 90s genre was surely grunge?

https://youtu.be/oryYHfZlqF0

Grunge is one of those things where people who were really into it think it was more popular than it actually was.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I really don't think grunge truly existed.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Iron Crowned posted:

I really don't think grunge truly existed.

Same. I think it’s a 30-year ploy by Viacom to make VH1 relevant for something by gaslighting the whole world

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Sweevo posted:

Grunge is one of those things where people who were really into it think it was more popular than it actually was.
I mean, it killed the 80s and sound pretty definitively. Folks were rocking the flannel with cynical glee until Millennial Silver took our minds and walkmen.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




She's a dead ringer for one of my elementary school classmates.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

It's absolutely eurodance.

:hmmyes:

Returned to my life when I realized it would be good running music and I made this playlist:

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

FilthyImp posted:

I mean, it killed the 80s and sound pretty definitively. Folks were rocking the flannel with cynical glee until Millennial Silver took our minds and walkmen.

How about this:

What defines grunge without naming specific bands?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Iron Crowned posted:

How about this:

What defines grunge without naming specific bands?

mopey heroin addicts with guitars?

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

uber_stoat posted:

mopey heroin addicts with guitars?

That's just rock music in general.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Iron Crowned posted:

How about this:

What defines grunge without naming specific bands?

drop-tuning, distortion, yarling

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Alaois posted:

drop-tuning, distortion, yarling

That's just nu-metal

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Grunge was an aesthetic and a movement, but not really a specific sound. There are some common sonic elements, but they can kind of be attributed to '90s music in general. I don't think "real" grunge lasted all that long, since one of its core values was hating popular stuff, which is obviously unsustainable.

Basically it was rock music that was dark but also wasn't metal. And then nu-metal filled in the gap between.

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

She's a dead ringer for one of my elementary school classmates.

drat, how many times did she get held back?

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

Iron Crowned posted:

How about this:

What defines grunge without naming specific bands?

Selling discontent to moody teenagers.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Darthemed posted:

drat, how many times did she get held back?

:lol: She was the first fifth grader to drive herself to school.


In all seriousness, though, I really do wonder if this is my friend.

lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

:lol: She was the first fifth grader to drive herself to school.


In all seriousness, though, I really do wonder if this is my friend.

That's Melissa Joan Hart, unless I'm mistaken.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

:lol: She was the first fifth grader to drive herself to school.


In all seriousness, though, I really do wonder if this is my friend.

Hi, Sam.

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



chglcu posted:

Hi, Sam.

*Electric guitar riff*



(I'm a tremendous idiot today.)

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