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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1440829359921586179?s=20 Australia just announced pretty much the exact same thing except they said "It's not a booster, it's a planned part of the primary vaccination program" and of course the news media instantly ignored that and called them boosters anyway.  quote:The federal government's vaccine advisory body says some Australians might need a third dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to be best protected against the virus.
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Goddamn, should've gotten a Pfizer booster when I was in states then the UK booster could've made me a super saiyan! Welp, it's all on you double AZ to hold until boosters become available for general public 
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Huh looks like the US doesn't want to call them boosters either https://twitter.com/BLaw/status/1440776007510679557
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Booster implies the virus has gotten stronger which is bad, three planned however works well with the holy Trinity which will please the church.
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Greggster posted:Booster implies the virus has gotten stronger which is bad, three planned however works well with the holy Trinity which will please the church. The problem is if they've been measuring data and granting exemptions from restrictions based on people being "fully vaccinated" which would now mean 3 shots and not 2, I guess if people haven't gotten the booster yet they're relegated back to "partially vaxxed" status??
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CaptainSarcastic posted:My area keeps having shortages of these and similar products from Oscar Mayer and other companies. I usually have one for lunch, and it's annoying having them frequently out of stock. CaptainSarcastic posted:That's more effort than I can usually spare in my workday. And these help with portion control, so I don't end up eating an excessive amount of salami or something, which I have been known to do in the past. A food scale and a Tupperware container will cost you about $12 on Amazon.
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Greggster posted:Booster implies the virus has gotten stronger which is bad, three planned however works well with the holy Trinity which will please the church. Actually it has to be three because otherwise you'd only have 2/3 of the Mark of the Beast. That last shot takes you to 666.
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So what's the messaging when we need a 4th shot in another 6 months from the 3rd shot? I mean that's pretty likely, no? Isn't Israel already planning on that?
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Sep 23, 2021 14:19
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What determined how long between shot 1 and shot 2 in the first place? That time varied wildly between countries, didn't it? Was it shown that a longer time between them had better results?
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A Strange Aeon posted:What determined how long between shot 1 and shot 2 in the first place? That time varied wildly between countries, didn't it? Was it shown that a longer time between them had better results? Supply mostly. Not everywhere was as lucky as the US with shot supplies. Back in the winter it was judged to be more critical getting as many people partial immunity as possible so the second shot was pushed off for weeks or months to save supt for first shots. That's also why a bunch of places mixed shots. No Pfizer deliveries this week? Well you're getting Moderna for shot 2, etc... That being said the longer interval may have had an effect, it's too early to say for sure though.
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Sep 23, 2021 14:28
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One of our network engineers just got Covid AGAIN. He hasn't been in the office for months though. He also claims he's vaccinated but he's also a chud who wants about mask and vaxx mandates so... I'm ever so slightly doubtful he's being 100% honest with us.
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Ginette Reno posted:So what's the messaging when we need a 4th shot in another 6 months from the 3rd shot? I mean that's pretty likely, no? Isn't Israel already planning on that? Thank you for keeping me alive doctors? I don’t care if I have to have a shot literally every week. My parents didn’t raise no quitter like these Chuds. Weaklings.
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spunkshui posted:Thank you for keeping me alive doctors? I don't think I'd like weekly injections. Now if they can administer the vaccine in suppository form....
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A Strange Aeon posted:What determined how long between shot 1 and shot 2 in the first place? That time varied wildly between countries, didn't it? Was it shown that a longer time between them had better results? Ginette Reno posted:So what's the messaging when we need a 4th shot in another 6 months from the 3rd shot? I mean that's pretty likely, no? Isn't Israel already planning on that? Nam Taf fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Sep 23, 2021 15:27
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the last two years suggest that the dumbest possible thing is what will happen
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naem posted:the last two years suggest that the dumbest possible thing is what will happen This.
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Hilarious to think that there's going to be like 5 years of death just slowly circling around the right wing in Florida and Texas, occasionally lashing out and hitting other places because MY FREEDOM until eventually a superstrain comes along and turns the US into The Road Wait a minute that's not hilarious at all
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AHH F/UGH posted:Hilarious to think that there's going to be like 5 years of death just slowly circling around the right wing in Florida and Texas, occasionally lashing out and hitting other places because MY FREEDOM until eventually a superstrain comes along and turns the US into The Road You know as much as I will definitely hate living in a dystopia it'd be cool to agree with everyone on something. "poo poo SUCKS" "Yes it does, friend"
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Are there any plans to formulate a delta-strain booster, or would it have to go through another year of clinical trials? Seems kind of dumb to be even more immunized to a spike variant that isn't really circulating in the wild anymore.
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I haven't had even a runny nose since this thing started (sometimes one side of my nose closes up for a bit, but I've read this is somewhat normal), I should get a prize Bad sleep, anxiety and other problems yeah, but no Covid  Oh, unless I'm one of the asymptomatics, but honestly I've never left my house without a mask and a face shield and being paranoid, so 
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Scaevolus posted:Are there any plans to formulate a delta-strain booster, or would it have to go through another year of clinical trials? I thought pfizer and moderna were trying to roll out a new delta specific booster by december this year but I know fuckall
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Scaevolus posted:Are there any plans to formulate a delta-strain booster, or would it have to go through another year of clinical trials? The current crop of vaccines give a high degree of efficacy against delta, especially after a booster shot to top up your titers Moderna is also trialling a combination covid/flu shot: https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-significant-advances-across-industry-leading
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Sep 23, 2021 18:15
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AHH F/UGH posted:Hilarious to think that there's going to be like 5 years of death just slowly circling around the right wing in Florida and Texas, occasionally lashing out and hitting other places because MY FREEDOM until eventually a superstrain comes along and turns the US into The Road Lmao if you're worried about catching the Florida variant https://www.palmcoastobserver.com/article/manny-diaz-wants-to-review-existing-non-covid-19-vaccine-mandates And not Florida mumps measles and rubella
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dk2m posted:The problem is that I didn’t wear a mask for a long time because my friends, who are doctors and scientists mostly, actually yelled me with those talking points for trying to wear one. I didn’t really realize that it changed until I was scolded by a Target employee for not wearing one and I actually argued with them that they’re the irresponsible ones To be honest that "do not use masks because they make it worse" was a fumble that also other countries which had nothing to do with Trump also stumbled through. Here it was the the politically appointed chucklefucks in our health department who overruled the actual professionals because "giving a mask mandate would be bad optics for the sitting government".
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IMO that all started with the WHO saying 'there is no evidence that masks prevent spread', which is true because there hadn't been time to gather that evidence yet. meanwhile we knew it was a respiratory virus and it was highly likely that mask-wearing would have an effect, but all the WHO was pushing was hand washing (IMO because that's something they wanted everyone to do anyways because it's generally good)
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https://twitter.com/KatherineJWu/status/1440401556768124934 The media is starting to push the "learn to live with it" narrative. With evidence piling up that COVID tricks your immune system into attacking your brain and other organs, I question this lady's definition of "weathering".
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Sep 23, 2021 19:08
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I look forward to a future where 20% of the population has brain damage and memory problems. I can't see anything bad happening with that.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:https://twitter.com/KatherineJWu/status/1440401556768124934 Realistically though, “live with it” is basically our only option at this point. We’re never going to hit vaccination rates that would actually wipe it out, so what is left to do? The doctor sounds like a dipstick about “becoming more tolerant” though.
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smoobles posted:I look forward to a future where 20% of the population has brain damage and memory problems. I can't see anything bad happening with that. Putting lead to gasoline and frying the ozone layer with hair products didn't have enough of an effect, so lets try this neat trick.
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Crackbone posted:Realistically though, “live with it” is basically our only option at this point. We’re never going to hit vaccination rates that would actually wipe it out, so what is left to do? My problem is that she's callously downplaying survivorship consequences and as a result encouraging the vaccinated to forego caution. I have trouble defining airborne brain damage as brief or mild.
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You’re forgetting the lung scarring and permanent loss of senses
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smoobles posted:I look forward to a future where 20% of the population has brain damage and memory problems. I can't see anything bad happening with that. Something had to take the place of leaded paint and gasoline. Edit: drat, beaten like a pair of lungs by COVID.
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Mozi posted:IMO that all started with the WHO saying 'there is no evidence that masks prevent spread', which is true because there hadn't been time to gather that evidence yet. meanwhile we knew it was a respiratory virus and it was highly likely that mask-wearing would have an effect, but all the WHO was pushing was hand washing (IMO because that's something they wanted everyone to do anyways because it's generally good) There was also that period of time where they were saying covid is droplet spread, not aerosol, so face shields were an acceptable alternative to a mask. Personally I thought that was a highly dubious claim, and treated it as aerosol from just about the beginning. I'm no virologist, but I pay attention and the whole argument it was just droplet spread just seemed to go against common sense.
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The US needs to eradicate the right-wing media bloc entirely. It will never happen, I know that, but that is what needs to happen if the US is going to move forward to a less COVID-19-infested state. My own country is at over 90% of the over 16s vaccinated, and that it absolutely down to the fact that we have a robustly normal media array. I remember one time an ordinary Irish reporter interviewed GWB. I think it was Carol Coleman. She asked him the kind of hard, undodgeable questions that every single politician gets asked here, and she was lambasted by the US political establishment and US media for 'lack of respect for the office'. Your news media is absolutely hosed from top to bottom
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Remember all those jokes about people holding covid parties so they could 'strengthen' their 'natural immunity'? Welp https://twitter.com/CityNewsYEG/status/1440834817159884807 Stickman posted:It's all somewhat moot because it all becomes correct usage if we just say COVID "will likely become endemic" instead of "is endemic". It just irks me that even folks working in health who should know better are misusing "endemic" to support nonsense "and therefore we need to stop doing X" arguments (and we're definitely in agreement there!) Same with the various MSM conflations of "endemic" with "not much of a problem on the population level" (endemic disease can have huge burdens) or "here to stay, nothing to be done" (there's a laundry list of formerly endemic diseases that have been effectively eliminated). Yeah we're definitely on the same page here, they've latched onto this concept which has a very specific technical definition the same way they latched onto "herd immunity" and forced it into a nebulous position outside of its usual definition and started pumping out opinion pieces about "Maybe we're already at herd immunity???" When it became super obvious that it wasn't going to pan out they needed to latch onto a new buzzphrase for their "Maybe if we just stopped all this stuff everything would be fine?" dumbshittery and settled on "endemic". Half of them don't even realise it's an adjective and not a noun Xenocides posted:So I guess this means we can’t have sex with deer right? Is kissing okay? Or is it okay if we wear a mask. Far be it from me to stand in the way of love in the time of coronavirus, you have my blessing 
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CaptainSarcastic posted:There was also that period of time where they were saying covid is droplet spread, not aerosol, so face shields were an acceptable alternative to a mask. Yes, and since it is a virus, so using masks, cleaning your hands, especially with sanitizer, using condom, and using visor/safety goggles/eyeglasses makes it more difficult for it to transfer whatever its preferred method of hopping around is. Saying that "masks are making it worse so do not use anything before we say so" is offensive negligence but politics before public health, so gently caress the people.
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Pookah posted:The US needs to eradicate the right-wing media bloc entirely. It will never happen, I know that, but that is what needs to happen if the US is going to move forward to a less COVID-19-infested state. Yeah, this is the elephant in the room that tends to get ignored. Rupert Murdoch set up a propaganda machine that is continuing to run unchecked in the US, and Sinclair Broadcasting is feeding slightly more subtle propaganda through its network of "local" TV stations. There is all sorts of handwringing about social media, but the active brainwashing that has become endemic (heh) in our broadcast media is glossed over or ignored.
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smoobles posted:I look forward to a future where 20% of the population has brain damage and memory problems. I can't see anything bad happening with that. The US is already at least 60% brain damaged
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QuarkJets posted:The US is already at least 60% brain damaged I personally like all of the international polls where "sane" option gets at max 65% approval in the USA because the 35% is "that group".
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