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Ganso Bomb posted:The Iaukea pushes were also odd.
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The answer is Vince Russo. He loved pushing wrestlers with those types of gimmicks that he came up with. Val Venis was a loving Intercontinental champion at one point.
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Halloween Jack posted:I still have no idea why WCW seemed to want me to care a lot about Prince Iaukea. Not that he ever got a huge push, but I don't know why they even bothered with the Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea joke. He always seemed to be beating low-card guys that I actually liked.
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A whole ton of people were making "The [thing] formerly known as [name]" jokes and gags when Prince did that name change so of course Russo had to run the joke into the ground
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Sep 14, 2021 14:29
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Thing is, he had already done the Artist Formerly Known as Goldust. But now he had a wrestler called Prince, so he just had to do it again.
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Ganso Bomb posted:Iaukea is a bit at fault here too. Looks like he pushes Evan a bit too hard on the whip and also gets in his way - kind of looks like Evan trips on Iaukea's let because he wasn't in his own lane. The first one (beating Regal for....the TV title? I think?) was only because WWF put the IC belt on Rocky over Hunter and WCW wanted their own smiley-islander-face-dork-goes-over-snooty-heel storyline.
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DJExile posted:A whole ton of people were making "The [thing] formerly known as [name]" jokes and gags when Prince did that name change so of course Russo had to run the joke into the ground Prince started going by the symbol in 1993. He left Warner Bros in 1996. TAFKAPI was in 2000. While people made jokes about it through the mid 90s, by the year 2000 they were incredibly passe.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:41
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DJExile posted:A whole ton of people were making "The [thing] formerly known as [name]" jokes and gags when Prince did that name change so of course Russo had to run the joke into the ground
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Sep 14, 2021 14:44
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It was already tired and dated by the time he did it with Goldust in 1997. Like every stand-up comedian and late night host had made every single possible joke.
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Something that's hard to explain to younger people is that there was just less culture in the 90s, and the Internet hadn't yet made it possible to get into somebody else's scene on the other side of the planet. So if something became a meme, it was beaten to death and undeath.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:49
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There's an old retro B&V where the week Viagra was approved by the FDA, both Raw and Nitro were wall-to-wall boner pill jokes in the promos.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The answer is Vince Russo. He loved pushing wrestlers with those types of gimmicks that he came up with. Val Venis was a loving Intercontinental champion at one point. Vince Russo and Sean Morey are both terrible, for the record, but like... the fans at least seemed to like Venis for a whole. The porn star gimmick was stupid, but it was the kind of stupid that could get over in WWF back then, and Morey made it work for a while. Bad worker, even worse human being, but putting a belt on him wasn't the worst idea. No gimmick was going to make people care about Iaukea. Pope Corky the IX posted:Thing is, he had already done the Artist Formerly Known as Goldust. But now he had a wrestler called Prince, so he just had to do it again. A lot of Russo's WCW work was stuff he did in WWF and just had to do it again.
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rujasu posted:No gimmick was going to make people care about Iaukea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jh2jbw7rY
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The answer is Vince Russo. He loved pushing wrestlers with those types of gimmicks that he came up with. Val Venis was a loving Intercontinental champion at one point. Val was incredibly over. He got better reactions then most of the current roster does unfortunately. I suspect it’s because teenage and 20 something year old men love dick jokes.
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The American Dream posted:Val was incredibly over. He got better reactions then most of the current roster does unfortunately. Val wasn't a bad worker either, at least not by the standards when he was brought in. He couldn't keep up when the overall workrate in WWE improved, though. He's always been a libertarian idiot too, which CTE seems to have worsened.
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Yeah Val was perfectly serviceable at the time as a general mid card worker. and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy his sleazy rear end 70s porn music
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Plus Val at least had that banger of a cage match for the IC Title with Rikishi
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 Lol how have I never noticed Sid's flip-flops until now
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Yeah, by the dire, dire standards of wrestlers in the Attitude Era Val managed to come across like an 9 when realistically he was probably a 7
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DJExile posted:Yeah Val was perfectly serviceable at the time as a general mid card worker. I liked val a lot. He could have a good match and the silly over-the-top gimmick worked for him.
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Sep 14, 2021 19:05
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It was the voice. He had just enough gravel to make "hellooooooo ladies" work.
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Jonny Nox posted:It was the voice. That and he committed to the bit. He needed to absolutely shameless for that to even remotely work, and he was.
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He was also in great shape for the time, when every other guy around him seemed to be wearing a shirt of some description.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:
Once I noticed the flip-flops, they became all I can see in that image.
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Gonna get on the Val Venis was good train. He's a douche now but I still love his work back then. Then again I like a lot of the mid card Attitude Era acts.
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MassRafTer posted:Prince started going by the symbol in 1993. He left Warner Bros in 1996. TAFKAPI was in 2000. While people made jokes about it through the mid 90s, by the year 2000 they were incredibly passe. Russo introduced the gimmick in December 1999, and continued to use it until August 2000, after the seven year old joke ceased to even be accurate.
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https://twitter.com/WCWWorldwide/status/1438500635066855432 these going unused seems both very sad and very fitting for WCW
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ecavalli posted:Once I noticed the flip-flops, they became all I can see in that image. HEY. The Ruler of the World doesn't want his feet burned by the hot sand, okay? 
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https://twitter.com/DeepCutsWCW/status/1361344735110168583
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If the next twenty seconds of that isnt Juvy either unconscious or stiffing Kanyon repeatedly i dont know what happened. There is no way to take that well.
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I remember being blown away by Mortis when he debuted. I remember being more pissed off when Edge made his WWE debut, and he flat-out stole at least three of his moves.
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There's a great clip of Edge and Christian in Beyond the Mat where they're watching two fellas the documentary followed in their dark match at a WWE taping and Edge just casually drops that he's gonna' steal their poo poo.
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Sep 24, 2021 02:29
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Guess who
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That’s the wall brother
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LividLiquid posted:There's a great clip of Edge and Christian in Beyond the Mat where they're watching two fellas the documentary followed in their dark match at a WWE taping and Edge just casually drops that he's gonna' steal their poo poo. Wasn't that Thrasher of the Headbangers? (Doesn't matter, Edge still stole poo poo. Like, he started using Gangrel's finisher. Surprised he doesn't start doing the Killswitch.)
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who First name Macho, last name Man?
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who Some sort of genuine American, who bleeds red white and blue?
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Davros1 posted:Like, he started using Gangrel's finisher.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who The cream always rises to the top. Oooh yeah.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:Guess who Whoever it is he sure likes mustard.
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