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What if the road construction causing the bottleneck was to install bike lanes?
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knox_harrington posted:For real 8mph is more of a running speed than a cycling speed. Uphill, buddy. Also I'm not Lance Armstrong, I'm just trying to get to work. But, yeah, as you allude to, there is definitely pressure to go faster, even though my bike has two gears and I'm having an asthma attack and my legs are shot halfway across the bridge. cruft fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Sep 23, 2021 13:28
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cruft posted:I'm having an asthma attack and my legs are shot halfway across the bridge. God himself could not write a goonier image
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Sep 23, 2021 13:41
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Ok Comboomer posted:God himself could not write a goonier image Sick burn!
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Sep 23, 2021 13:47
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cruft posted:Sick burn!  do you need a hug?
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Sep 23, 2021 13:56
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So apparently Tesla spotting is becoming the new slug bug game. A co-worker just informed me yesterday they had spontaneously invented it, making this the fourth time I've heard of that happening. Anybody in here old enough to be able to draw any parallels between the 1960s beetle fandom and Tesla fandom? Ok Comboomer posted:
Do you need to have an internet slap fight with somebody today? I imagine the rest of the thread would appreciate us taking it somewhere else...
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Sep 23, 2021 13:57
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Finger Prince posted:What if the road construction causing the bottleneck was to install bike lanes?  This is my constant hell. Road is in bad shape? Why aren’t you doing anything!!!! Road is now under construction with some maintenance of traffic in place? Why are you doing this?!?!?!? Project is taking the allotted time to get completed? Why is your contractor not doing anything!!!???
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Sep 23, 2021 14:02
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
I know a few road engineers and I don't know how you folks are able to put up with this. Every time there's a public meeting, suddenly there are hundreds of civil engineers in town.
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Sep 23, 2021 14:07
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cruft posted:So apparently Tesla spotting is becoming the new slug bug game. A co-worker just informed me yesterday they had spontaneously invented it, making this the fourth time I've heard of that happening. I wasn’t trying to start a fight, my dude. Apologies if my comment about the relative gooniness of your situation touched a nerve. I wasn’t trying to bodyshame or make any ableist comment, and I’m sorry if it came off as such.
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Sep 23, 2021 14:09
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Ok Comboomer posted:I wasn’t trying to start a fight, my dude. Apologies if my comment about the relative gooniness of your situation touched a nerve. We're good, and I appreciate that you took the time to post this. 
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Sep 23, 2021 14:15
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
My problem is usually when the two lane crazy busy highway is clamped down to one lane at 25 mph for 20 miles when the entire team on the road consists of like 4 vehicles and half a dozen people, all of whom are within a 50 yard stretch of road.
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Sep 23, 2021 17:43
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Almost every street has a big rear end median, they could make those separated bike lanes with dedicated traffic lights like they did on Pennsylvania Ave in DC
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Sep 23, 2021 17:46
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cruft posted:My car is parked (outdoors) across the street from my neighbor and I had it off until there was a rash of eggings on the block and I asked if they'd mind me re-enabling it. We haven't had another egging yet... What is it with New Mexico and egging? I've never seen egging anywhere else in the country, but it happened multiple times when I lived in Albuquerque. Olympic Mathlete posted:Drivers who whine about slow bikes need to realise the solution to their woes of waiting a few seconds is to push for fully segregated cycle lanes. Proper ones, not just line painted on the same hard top. Be the change you want to see in the world, buttholes. Was it this thread, or the terrible car stuff thread, where we learned that umm actually fully segregated bike lanes are bad because cyclists can't help but run into the curb, flinging themselves into traffic? edit: it was the terrible car stuff thread, https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3502479&pagenumber=1408&perpage=40&post514538004#post514538004 Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Sep 23, 2021 18:23
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My experience has been that cars can't help but ignore anything that may challenge their ownership of the road: https://youtu.be/Tza5tr9xjiI
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Sep 23, 2021 18:29
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Make the wall taller. If there were walled off bike likes I'd get an e-bike for sure. Unfortunately I live in the suburbs with lots of stroads and aggressive drivers.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:29
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Kunabomber posted:My experience has been that cars can't help but ignore anything that may challenge their ownership of the road: Drivers never saw a solid line they didn't want to cross. Solid yellow, solid white, double solid white, or apparently double solid white with big chevrons like in that video, they're gonna fuckin cross it. Stupid as it is, I bet Tesla's autopilot wouldn't try a loving illegal u-turn over something quite so clearly marked.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:31
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Pham Nuwen posted:Stupid as it is, I bet Tesla's autopilot wouldn't try a loving illegal u-turn over something quite so clearly marked. Wanna bet someone's life on it?
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Sep 23, 2021 18:32
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cakesmith handyman posted:Wanna bet someone's life on it? I'm still having a hard time trusting the VW's ACC to not ram into the back of the car in front of me when traffic slows, so no.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:34
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Kunabomber posted:My experience has been that cars can't help but ignore anything that may challenge their ownership of the road Anything existing between a driver and where they want to be is an extraordinary injustice that can only be remedied through blind rage. I don’t know what it is, but being inside a vehicle transforms people into monsters.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:37
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mobby_6kl posted:I dunno, going 1/10th speed of the flow of traffic definitely seems like a bottleneck. That said, completely separate bike lanes are great especially if they can get some cars off the road too.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:50
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Pham Nuwen posted:Was it this thread, or the terrible car stuff thread, where we learned that umm actually fully segregated bike lanes are bad because cyclists can't help but run into the curb, flinging themselves into traffic? Yeah those dividers look like a nightmare. Not quite sure a badly designed bike lane is an argument for not building well designed infrastructure for bikes though.  lots of other places do it really well.https://twitter.com/BrettPetzer/status/1441093741356347392?s=19 https://twitter.com/AmericanFietser/status/1440556465987723264?s=19 And then you have poo poo like this which incorporates a cycle lane on the same road surface as cars. If you squint you can see it. https://twitter.com/aashtospeaks/status/1438598518621544449?s=19 If you do it properly you open up cycling as a safe option to people. London last year closed lots of streets to vehicles and people started cycling a lot more, little kids were able to pootle along the closed roads and go to school, the parks etc completely safely. This was mostly done to avoid putting in a lot of actual decent infrastructure but was certainly better than nothing. Keep cars and bikes apart and done properly, everyone wins.
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Sep 23, 2021 18:57
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Huh, I didn't know that Tesla did this. Hell of a way to catch someone who keys your car. https://twitter.com/LesterDuhe/status/1440889418286616584
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Sep 23, 2021 19:25
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Charles posted:I was behind someone doing 8 or 9 mph with an unassisted bike up a steep rear end hill earlier. Props to them. I don't mind waiting at all for a safe moment to pass. The people behind me though... Where I live there are grades approaching 20% that I bike up. That means crawling at 3mph in some cases.  Note the estimated power (I weight about 220lbs). Since I used to be ginormously fat, no eBike for me, I need the exercise.
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Sep 23, 2021 19:35
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cruft posted:So apparently Tesla spotting is becoming the new slug bug game. A co-worker just informed me yesterday they had spontaneously invented it, making this the fourth time I've heard of that happening. Tesla Tickle. Make it so.
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Sep 23, 2021 19:35
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Drivers who whine about slow bikes need to realise the solution to their woes of waiting a few seconds is to push for fully segregated cycle lanes. Proper ones, not just line painted on the same hard top. Be the change you want to see in the world, buttholes. We have those here and a bunch of dingleberries insist on biking in the car lanes anyway because they are such Elite Bikers (you can tell since they have all the special clothing) that they can't possibly ride in the _bike lanes_ with all the slower bikers. So I'm stuck behind some asshat doing 20km/h on an 80 road, since I can't pass safely as the lanes are narrow due to the bike lanes they put in for these motherfuckers.
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Sep 23, 2021 19:38
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Shaggared again. Oh wait, wrong thread/subforum.
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Sep 23, 2021 19:46
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Ok, going to have a San Diego (north county) to Las Vegas drive in the Niro EV in a few weeks. 319 miles. Niro gets about 240miles on a charge. Looking at PlugShare there's Electrify America stuff in Barstow (150 miles) ... but I question the availability. There's supposed to be some fast charging run Yermo (166 miles, 3 CCS/SAE) but ratings are so so. In Baker the same, but apparently (at least according to their app) EvGo installed a bunch of chargers there and I've had good luck with them in Los Angeles .... 219 miles.. Besides telling me I should have bought a Tesla, does anyone know about these new chargers? Should I chance just charging in Baker? That seems like cutting it close. (Note: this is the first trip over my range I've ever taken in the Niro). Oh for a real-time cross platform charge station monitoring app.
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Sep 23, 2021 19:50
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Question: How does the economics of these chargers work? For example, a typical ChargePoint Level 2 charger runs me $0.30/kwh, charges at around 6kw. That's a gross revenue of $1.80/hour. If it was used for say, 6 hours in a day, the daily gross revenue would be $10.80/day, or about $3900/year. Net is probabily 1/2 of that. Are these subsidized by the location? (in this case, Liberty Station, San Diego). I imagine installing these in a parking lot isn't trivial. VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Sep 23, 2021 20:33
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VideoGameVet posted:
There are absolutely circumstances where converting the parking lot lighting from sodium vapor to LED frees up the capacity to install some EV charging. The biggest issue I’ve seen is that EV chargers require maintenance that flat out isn’t being done.
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Sep 23, 2021 20:38
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Level 2 charging stations are relatively cheap to install since it's just a 40A wire run. Should cost about $500-$5,000 depending on how far the wire needs to be ran. Businesses claim some tax breaks on doing this, I'm not certain how much. All I know is for residences, we get 1/3 of the cost back when we file our taxes.
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Sep 23, 2021 20:39
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How far out if your way are those locations? If they're right off the highway I'd swing into the first one and if it's occupied proceed to the next. As for the other question I don't think L2 is expensive to install. L3 is a whole different ball game of course.
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Sep 23, 2021 20:40
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dissss posted:How far out if your way are those locations? If they're right off the highway I'd swing into the first one and if it's occupied proceed to the next. A single L3 runs about $50k. I wonder if there are L3's running directly from large battery banks, to skip the inverter part. Also a pox on the USA for not following Europe's lead and standardizing chargers.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:18
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VideoGameVet posted:I wonder if there are L3's running directly from large battery banks, to skip the inverter part. Yep! I even posted about it in this thread last year. Nfcknblvbl posted:These things are pretty neat:
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Sep 23, 2021 21:25
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Clayton Bigsby posted:We have those here and a bunch of dingleberries insist on biking in the car lanes anyway because they are such Elite Bikers (you can tell since they have all the special clothing) that they can't possibly ride in the _bike lanes_ with all the slower bikers. So I'm stuck behind some asshat doing 20km/h on an 80 road, since I can't pass safely as the lanes are narrow due to the bike lanes they put in for these motherfuckers. There were spots on my commute to work where there were 'cycle lanes' along next to the roadside. If you were just looking at them you'd just assume they were fine but if you actually used them you'd quickly realise they were poo poo. Lanes stop and start, are shared with pedestrians who don't want you blasting down a lane towards them, weave across roads and continue on the other side causing you to have to wait at lights, the surfaces were covered in paint or never treated for ice when the weather got poo poo. In a lot of places people will have cycled these lanes and realised they're actually garbage for many a reason and that's why you'll still find cyclists on the road. It's about efficiency, right? Path of least resistance. If you as a driver don't want bikes on the roads (and trust me, they'd prefer not to be) then maybe get involved with your local cycle groups and push for actual, worthwhile cycle lanes? If you make cycling viable for everyone then you end up pulling other drivers off the roads leading to less traffic in the first place. Bikes are good, infrastructure for them is so often bad though, an afterthought at best. My drive to work is 12 miles. My cycle avoiding the 50/60mph roads that make up 2/3 of the drive is 14 miles. Pre-pandemic it took me longer to get to work in the car driving on those 50/60mph roads then sitting in traffic than it did to cycle at an average 16mph down beautiful country lanes and on poo poo, detoured cycle routes.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:26
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VideoGameVet posted:Also a pox on the USA for not following Europe's lead and standardizing chargers.  I wish we had standardized too, but it probably would have ended up being CCS1 (if not Chademo) which is unreasonably huge. Tesla had (and still has, I suppose) a chance to make their charge connector available to license by other manufacturers, but they aren’t and that means we’re stuck between a well-designed proprietary connector and a Frankenstein(‘s monster) everyone-else connector. And there aren’t even good adapters between the two.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:28
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We're in the serial/parallel port days of EV charging standards, and it's probably going to take at least 30 years until we get to a nice USB-C standard equivalent.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:31
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Nfcknblvbl posted:LFP batteries are fairly common in China, and they're incredibly stable. Only downsides are lower capacity and poorer performance in the cold. They don't even have cobalt in them! China-made Teslas have LFP batteries (made by CATL I believe). It's probably the way forward in general too; it's a bit less energy dense than NCA or NMC, but it's one heck of a lot less volatile (doesn't suffer from thermal runaway and doesn't decompose under heat), avoids the expensive and controversial cobalt, and ages better than most other Li-Ion chemistries. Tesla's newer cells all seem to be vapourware too.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:37
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I assume that some day (2050?) we’ll just park on top of a giant Qi charging pad and an hour later our flying car will be recharged. Or we’ll have devolved into warbands battling over the last drop of gasoline in existence by that point. There’s some variety of smart power/self-driving/mystery technology road being installed on US-33 near Marysville, OH that I just read about a couple of days ago. It sounds like it’s supposed to be used to test experimental stuff like roads that can provide a trickle charge to certain cars, or have some sort of material in them which assists self-driving cars in some inexpressible way, but there are absolutely no specifics and the website is basically just politicians giving each other high fives and handjobs over how great of a job they did allocating tax dollars to it. I presume it’s just a more-efficient method to funnel public money into companies owned by friends of the politicians.
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Sep 23, 2021 21:40
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Sonic Dude posted:I assume that some day (2050?) we’ll just park on top of a giant Qi charging pad and an hour later our flying car will be recharged. Or we’ll have devolved into warbands battling over the last drop of gasoline in existence by that point. This is in development for taxis in Oslo right now. 75kW charging pads at frequent idling locations. Apparently, the charging interface is very efficient, I think it has to due with them using more focused beam of energy rather than a wide area. https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18276541/norway-oslo-wireless-charging-electric-taxis-car-zero-emissions-induction
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Induction charging is always going to be pretty inefficient, seems unlikely.Sonic Dude posted:That sounds like socialism to me! CCS1 is the de-facto standard, though? And I don't think it's unreasonably huge at all. Also, who cares. Other manufacturers aren't going to switch to a plug licensed from Tesla. The ship has sailed, and the law should mandate CCS for all new cars. Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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