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Rumours that Starmer was trying to change the leadership selection process to a pint-drinking contest
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Sep 24, 2021 19:33
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The motion has been withdrawn. Humiliation for Loser Starmer.
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Sep 24, 2021 19:33
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Starmer finds a consensus - that his ideas are terrible
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Sep 24, 2021 19:34
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I quite like Grimes as a musician, but I know nothing about her beyond marrying Musk. And now I don't even need to know that! Just the second bit for me, so I mentally append "...or Grimey as she liked to be known" whenever she's mentioned.
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Sep 24, 2021 19:51
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He only married her once, it's the second divorce that counts.
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Sep 24, 2021 20:37
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https://twitter.com/BeckettUnite/status/1441305841122955277?s=19 Might be old, but I just watched this about 5 times and it's fascinating. He had to know the gloves were a bad idea
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Sep 24, 2021 21:28
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Seen on reddit:
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Sep 24, 2021 21:38
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https://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-1011
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Sep 24, 2021 21:45
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Corbyn would have lit that bag up
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Sep 24, 2021 21:46
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Normal island. Couple of pages back put that's just unbelievable quote:A jobcentre security guard told a disabled man with a chronic bowel condition that he was not allowed to use the staff toilets, but that there was a bucket that was kept behind the building “for claimants to use”. quote:It later emerged that the guard had been mocking AJ, and there was no bucket in the location he had directed him to and no way to access the back of the building. just loving disgusting.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:05
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yeah. and indicative of the attitude of people working in an environment which is supposed to be about helping people. Like the problem is bigger than that person. But that person should be prosecuted for something.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:08
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Failed Imagineer posted:Rumours that Starmer was trying to change the leadership selection process to a pint-drinking contest Please welcome the new leader of the Labour party... William Hague??
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Sep 24, 2021 22:20
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NotJustANumber99 posted:yeah. and indicative of the attitude of people working in an environment which is supposed to be about helping people. Ahahahahaha it's really not meant to be about anything other than creating a hostile environment for those "lazy shirkers". Jobcentre staff are merely following the example set by the government. Humiliation is the intention.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:30
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Not quite the trenchant Tory wit of her late dad, but I went "heh" https://twitter.com/FloraEGill/status/1441518274458566658?s=19
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Sep 24, 2021 22:43
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forkboy84 posted:Ahahahahaha it's really not meant to be about anything other than creating a hostile environment for those "lazy shirkers". Jobcentre staff are merely following the example set by the government. Humiliation is the intention. Last week I found out that the job coach who got fired and had set us the date to get his social care hours or go on back to work courses had totally made all this poo poo up. The reason she said all this bollocks was because she had *deliberately* not forwarded him for a work capability assessment, and was clearly setting us up for something. New work coach was genuinely horrified and immediately escalated the case because as he said, it couldn’t have been a mistake, she had to click a no box for the assessment when she marked the sick note as seen. Like I get that the cruelty is the point within the system but holy poo poo that’s some absolutely psychotic behaviour from one person getting off on playing god with disabled people’s lives.
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Sep 24, 2021 22:46
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Surprised I haven't seen this ITT: https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1441318669611520006?s=20 In which Peston blames customers, who have CONSTANTLY been told both that Capitalism is an efficient system because it provides competition which benefits the consumer, and that they should shop around for the best deals and change their energy provider every year, that it's *their "mistakes"* that are having to be paid back and "socialised". Absolute prick. Of course he's just being fed lines directly by the Tories. Absolute prick.
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Sep 24, 2021 23:40
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total oval office
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Sep 25, 2021 00:04
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https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1441523421007908877 Rayner with a bit of not-poo poo policy, looks like keeping some of Corbyn's stuff on collective bargaining. I think the thing that baffles me most about Starmer is that it would've been so easy for him to keep the Left reasonably on-side with just a handful of policies like this. Even if people complained about lack of ambition they would've still voted for him if he just resisted the urge to spit in their faces, but he didn't.
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Sep 25, 2021 00:10
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Let me assure Angela Rayner that I absolutely want a hand out. Normalise not wanting to work imo
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Sep 25, 2021 00:14
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Remember when we treated foreign lorry drivers like poo poo and held them in a concentration camp in Kent? They do. https://twitter.com/Rich_Browning/status/1441543287031074822
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Sep 25, 2021 00:35
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Just doing research on every energy provider to check if they're a fragile business or not, a perfectly reasonable thing to expect of every loving adult in the country
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Sep 25, 2021 00:35
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Tarnop posted:Just doing research on every energy provider to check if they're a fragile business or not, a perfectly reasonable thing to expect of every loving adult in the country It's the whole 'choice' thing that started I think under Thatcher that has people spending months choosing (state!) schools for their kids, having GPs 'choosing' where to send patients (that whole 'Patients Charter' shite), worrying about insurance policies, having to watch which train ticket they buy / train they get on going the same place in case it's the wrong train co or ticket, what bus to get when so often in those areas where transport is privatised you have the idiotic scenario of two different companies running buses 5 minutes apart along the profitable routes and nowt except the absolute minimum 'public obligation' along the rest, and now all these hours upon hours people spend worrying about the best utilities deal, the best ISP, the best mobile phone provider and so on. It's all designed to keep Jo Public's brains so tied up in things that should be easy that they don't have the mental energy to see what the government is up to - and no I don't think this is a particularly  view.Every school should provide a decent education catering to the needs of all kids, every hospital or clinic should be 'the best', utilities and transport should be nationalized. Fortunately for me, in most areas of life, I am what is known as a 'satisficer' - if it looks ok at a reasonable price, then I'll take it and think no more of it (unless it goes wrong). I have friends and acquaintances though who are 'maximizers' and will be in deep stress and distress trying to decide whether they have the best deal, and even when they've bought whatever it is will remain in a constant state of stress over whether they have done the right thing and that can take an enormous toll on well-being if there are more than a couple of things going on.
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Sep 25, 2021 00:59
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I haven't listened yet, but Jeremy Corbyn is on the Alexei Sayle podcast https://audioboom.com/posts/7948459-more-hope-please-with-jeremy-corbyn
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Sep 25, 2021 01:13
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forkboy84 posted:Let me assure Angela Rayner that I absolutely want a hand out. gently caress yes. Give me a hand out. Let me laze around all day. Right now it's taken more than two weeks just to get my fuckin free 'sorry you're going blind and can't drive' bus pass for gently caress's sake.
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Sep 25, 2021 01:19
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's the whole 'choice' thing that started I think under Thatcher that has people spending months choosing (state!) schools for their kids, having GPs 'choosing' where to send patients (that whole 'Patients Charter' shite), worrying about insurance policies, having to watch which train ticket they buy / train they get on going the same place in case it's the wrong train co or ticket, what bus to get when so often in those areas where transport is privatised you have the idiotic scenario of two different companies running buses 5 minutes apart along the profitable routes and nowt except the absolute minimum 'public obligation' along the rest, and now all these hours upon hours people spend worrying about the best utilities deal, the best ISP, the best mobile phone provider and so on. Yeah I'm with you here both in being a satisficer and in not wanting to have to bloody choose my doctor surgery or switch my car insurance every year or gently caress about with energy suppliers or anything like that - I just want to go to the nearest doctor and know that I'll get the care I need, and the same (or equivalent) for everything else. It's loving *exhausting* if you really want to stay on top of it. And some things, if you don't stay on top of them, particularly sodding car insurance, go up every year if you don't. Like literally I would go on confused.com every year and find a cheaper insurer based on more no-claims, more years of driving etc. and then one year later would get a letter through saying "your insurance is going up 8%" or whatever, so you have to go through the same bloody rigmarole again to end up getting a policy 3% cheaper than your original premium with a different insurer. Piss take. I did finally settle with Admiral for a few years because while the premium did still go up each year, it was only gonna save me about a tenner to switch to somebody else and I thought "gently caress it". WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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Sep 25, 2021 03:50
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goddamnedtwisto posted:As I've pointed out multiple times in the past, I'd never work for MI5 - have you seen how poo poo public sector wages are? Wasn't basically the whole British intelligence service on KGB payroll for most of the Cold War
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Sep 25, 2021 06:47
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jabby posted:I think the thing that baffles me most about Starmer is that it would've been so easy for him to keep the Left reasonably on-side with just a handful of policies like this. Even if people complained about lack of ambition they would've still voted for him if he just resisted the urge to spit in their faces, but he didn't. and he's managing even to do that incompetently. it's a treat to watch tbh, never a dull moment (assuming here he's not a plant, but even if he were, the same dynamics would exist imo unless the ability of the right to publicly tantrum were removed)
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Sep 25, 2021 08:04
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In more "how could the EU do this to me?" news, I feel like the Daily Mail stance in Brexit has become very confused in recent years. I try to avoid reading them entirely, but have they done a complete U-turn, or just a half U-turn where they ended up getting wedged like a supertanker in the Suez?
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Sep 25, 2021 08:26
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Failed Imagineer posted:In more "how could the EU do this to me?" news, I feel like the Daily Mail stance in Brexit has become very confused in recent years. I try to avoid reading them entirely, but have they done a complete U-turn, or just a half U-turn where they ended up getting wedged like a supertanker in the Suez? the mail on sunday and the daily mail have different editors who habitually take opposing sides on any issue so it could be that
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Sep 25, 2021 08:39
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Drove past Asda at 05:50 this morning after picking my partner up from work, queues for the petrol station were spilling out onto the main carriageway already. Unfortunately this blocks access for anyone who actually just wants to get into the supermarket. It’s going to get ugly.
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Sep 25, 2021 08:47
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not that I ever read it, but it strikes me as exactly the kind of publication that would encourage readers to back brexit and then complain when brexit happens and spoiler, it loving sucks
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Sep 25, 2021 08:47
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Paperhouse posted:not that I ever read it, but it strikes me as exactly the kind of publication that would encourage readers to back brexit and then complain when brexit happens and spoiler, it loving sucks The question isn't whether the Mail is complaining about the effects of Brexit. That was inevitable, they exist to complain. What matters is who they're blaming for it.
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Sep 25, 2021 09:05
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Jedit posted:The question isn't whether the Mail is complaining about the effects of Brexit. That was inevitable, they exist to complain. What matters is who they're blaming for it. Whoa, turns out it was The Germans all along
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Sep 25, 2021 09:06
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Hurrah for the blackshirts?
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Sep 25, 2021 09:07
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's the whole 'choice' thing that started I think under Thatcher that has people spending months choosing (state!) schools for their kids, having GPs 'choosing' where to send patients (that whole 'Patients Charter' shite), worrying about insurance policies, having to watch which train ticket they buy / train they get on going the same place in case it's the wrong train co or ticket, what bus to get when so often in those areas where transport is privatised you have the idiotic scenario of two different companies running buses 5 minutes apart along the profitable routes and nowt except the absolute minimum 'public obligation' along the rest, and now all these hours upon hours people spend worrying about the best utilities deal, the best ISP, the best mobile phone provider and so on. I agree with pretty much everything - people don’t need choice if they have decent quality - except the bolded bit. That may be a positive by-product but I don’t believe it was the point. The point was to privatise industries to allow people to make money from what were public services. As for things like ISP and phone deals, you’re giving too much forethought and intention to people just trying to make money.
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Sep 25, 2021 09:18
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didn’t some idiot politician complain a few months ago that people will spend more time researching white goods to save money than their energy bills, which would only take a few minutes of introspection to figure out
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Sep 25, 2021 09:21
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There's always a fine balance between the idea of a paternalist system that knows what's best for you (the old 'lack of choice' that a lot of the more honest calls for choice were rebelling against) and being flooded with deregulated crap. And then there's areas like water provision where I have no choice in the provider anyway unless I move 80 miles away, but was deregulated to the private sector for ideological reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T2zUEiVQU4
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Sep 25, 2021 09:40
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Drove past Asda at 05:50 this morning after picking my partner up from work, queues for the petrol station were spilling out onto the main carriageway already. All the roads where I am near a petrol station are gridlocked at the moment. There was even a policeman directing traffic at one point.
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Sep 25, 2021 09:41
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Saw Grimes was trending on twitter and wondered either what Darren had been up to or that guy* that was supporting the Corbsta ... oh dear. Apparently there's a woman called Grimes. I tried to do some science a while back but ran out of subjects  I guess Chaotic Neutral and Evil should swap spaces now
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Sep 25, 2021 09:48
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Wasn't basically the whole British intelligence service on KGB payroll for most of the Cold War Funnily enough no - almost none of the major moles in the UK intelligence community were doing it for the money. None of the Cambridge Five took cash, they were true believers (well presumably the drinks bill for Guy Burgess when he met his handlers was pretty substantial). A few of the lesser-known agents might have taken money but again most of them were in it for the politics, not the money. I'm willing to bet that the KGB spent more money on Aldrich Ames than they did on every agent they had in the UK, including all the agents of influence they funded indirectly. Now there's lots of interesting reasons why this might be the case but as Peter Wright pointed out the fundamental problem with British intelligence - particularly MI6 - after the war was that it recruited from an incredibly narrow social stratum, purely on personal recommendation and with almost no actual vetting beyond "I went to Cambridge with this chap and he seemed sound". This meant that all of your spies end up as independently-wealthy dilletantes, which makes them less vulnerable to direct bribery of course, but also basically impossible to detect as foreign agents especially as all the people likely to investigate them went to Cambridge with them and wouldn't hear a word against dear old Kim. It's easy enough to find free electronic copies of Spy Catcher, it's well worth a read as long as you take it all with an absolutely massive pinch of salt. Wright, like many of the Young Turks in MI5, really was a true believer and massively influenced by James Jesus Angleton, a person who - if he turned up in fiction - would be the work of the worst kind of hack writing, but he was depressingly real. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Sep 25, 2021 |
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