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If you're curious about a lot of stuff (90 days delayed from release day), maybe try a month of Marvel Unlimited and see what you like with out having to go off recommendations. It's got most everything non-Conan from the past few years. You can also search it by creators you know you already like.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 01:52 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 16:44 |
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https://www.avclub.com/marvel-is-suing-the-families-of-spider-man-iron-man-cr-1847743932 So is this possibly why Pete is taking a break for a while? Much like when the FF were written off.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 01:52 |
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oh, those poor souls. i do not envy anyone who goes to court against disney. over copyright law, no less!
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 01:57 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:oh, those poor souls. i do not envy anyone who goes to court against disney. over copyright law, no less! The thing is that it's actually the best area to do so, because Disney has been fighting for years to make the law in favor of the dude 100 years ago that made something. Because, of course, they are the dude 100 years ago that made the something. In this situation though, it's someone else that is the dude fighting someone trying to take their poo poo and they have decades of Disney's legal precedent's to base their position on. They are still probably going to lose or settle, but it's also probably the best shot someone can take at Disney.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 02:07 |
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saw a dude on Twitter pointing out that the families of Seigel and Schuster tried the same thing against DC re: Superman, and lost... and the lawyer that represented Seigel and Schuster is the same lawyer currently representing the estates in this suit... and that the same lawyer who represented DC is representing Marvel so if all that is accurate, I wouldn't hold out a ton of hope for the Ditko estate but hopefully they can at least get Disney to throw a bunch of money at them to go away
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 02:38 |
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Jiro posted:https://www.avclub.com/marvel-is-suing-the-families-of-spider-man-iron-man-cr-1847743932
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 03:21 |
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Mulva posted:The thing is that it's actually the best area to do so, because Disney has been fighting for years to make the law in favor of the dude 100 years ago that made something. Because, of course, they are the dude 100 years ago that made the something. In this situation though, it's someone else that is the dude fighting someone trying to take their poo poo and they have decades of Disney's legal precedent's to base their position on. I wonder how much, if anything, Ditko's own words about not caring about getting any money will come into play.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 15:06 |
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There's no way that the Ditko estate thinks they can actually pull this off. They probably just want that out of court "go away" Disney cash settlement like Kirby's estate got. I mean, they timed this just before the release of a Spider-Man movie and a Dr Strange movie. But seriously, Ditko was an obnoxious libertarian and his ghost probably understands that Marvel owns those characters because the deal was "We will give you money to create characters and comics that we will own forever" means just that. What kind of Randroid doesn't respect the work-for-money deal?
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 16:23 |
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Happy Hippo posted:But seriously, Ditko was an obnoxious libertarian and his ghost probably understands that Marvel owns those characters because the deal was "We will give you money to create characters and comics that we will own forever" means just that. What kind of Randroid doesn't respect the work-for-money deal? Oh, absolutely. Ditko's "estate" (who basically inherited his stuff by default because Ditko didn't have a will) are absolutely going against everything Ditko believed in and are just obnoxious rent-seekers. It's remarkable how poo poo Disney is that the estate are the good guys in this story. Rochallor fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Sep 26, 2021 |
# ? Sep 25, 2021 17:11 |
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There is no story in which the mega corporation is the good guy
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 21:20 |
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There are stories where two bad guys of varying degrees of severity fight If I was the judge, I'd declare in favor of Ditko's relatives, but give all the money to Gruenwald's daughter instead
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 22:17 |
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"Rooting for" one side or another in this is pointless because there's only two ways this all ends - Disney's countersuits work and nothing changes, or Disney pays the families a settlement much less than what they are asking for in the suits and nothing changes. Like they're being represented by the firm that tried already this on DC for Superman rights and lost. C'mon.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 22:55 |
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Abroham Lincoln posted:There is no story in which the mega corporation is the good guy Ah whoops, that's not what I meant to say.
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# ? Sep 26, 2021 03:49 |
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Lord_Hambrose posted:I actually really like the Bounty Hunters book. Bringing back Valance from the 70s comics is a fun idea, and he has been pretty well written mostly. The run also has tons of other cool bounty hunters, especially a killer issue story about Bossk. i can't believe they're replacing shadows of the empire with this war of the bounty hunters but not bringing back my man dash rendar
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# ? Sep 27, 2021 04:14 |
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Abroham Lincoln posted:There is no story in which the mega corporation is the good guy I would disagree with this. It's just that these stories are propaganda, or just generally suck. For example, I would consider the American military complex a mega corporation and there are plenty of stories cheerleading for them.
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# ? Sep 27, 2021 10:37 |
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Being presented as the hero is not the same as actually being the hero.
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# ? Sep 27, 2021 12:24 |
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Good lord, the ending to the “Kindred Saga” in ASM is a complete mess. Almost perversely pointless.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 09:32 |
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nemesis_hub posted:Good lord, the ending to the “Kindred Saga” in ASM is a complete mess. Almost perversely pointless. Ben Reilly being the light at the end of the tunnel is all you need to know about the Spencer run.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 11:14 |
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Ben Reilly being the light at the end of the tunnel is all you need to know about the Spencer run. Should be Kaine
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 11:30 |
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E: wrong thread.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 11:58 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Should be Kaine A funny way to spell Silk.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 16:27 |
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Dawgstar posted:A funny way to spell Silk. An "Every Spider Minus Peter" book
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 16:52 |
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TwoPair posted:An "Every Spider Minus Peter" book Detective comics was the Batman version of that for a while and was really good.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:06 |
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This is fairly niche, but seeing @KenTremendous referenced in this week's Miles Morales: Spider-Man was a happy surprise.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:15 |
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nemesis_hub posted:Good lord, the ending to the “Kindred Saga” in ASM is a complete mess. Almost perversely pointless. undoing OMD without actually undoing it is kind of cowardly
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:30 |
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nemesis_hub posted:Good lord, the ending to the “Kindred Saga” in ASM is a complete mess. Almost perversely pointless. The book has gone through so many contortions, every one of them so poorly conveyed, that recent issues are nearly illegible. I don't even mean in the "I dislike this turn of events" sense, I mean it's genuinely extremely hard to follow beat to beat where the characters are, what they're doing, or why. Harry Osborn is in secret prison, and dead, and a computer, but not really dead, and everyone has false memories and keeps teleporting to a Hell Mansion and the Chameleon etc. etc.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:39 |
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It's wild because the idea of six Sinister Sixes was neat and even other people who are not big on this run have acknowledged that yeah, that's a fun gimmick. But then he does nothing with it! They're all dispatched in a big confusing poorly choreographed fight while we get interminable exposition about Harry Osborn, a character with absolutely no personality to speak of over the course of 56 years of existence. Who was clamoring for this?
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:46 |
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I mean that’s Spencer’s writing style. He loves weird mysteries with a ton of reveals that get convoluted as they begin to stack up
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:47 |
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Harry is weird as he was one of the characters brought back with OMD….but then no one has any idea what to do with him. Though that’s a problem with Peters personal life in general. It’s been in a rut since OMD and no one has any idea what to do with it
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:49 |
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American Son was peak Harry Osborn.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 18:50 |
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Also I’m going to guess they are gonna have Pete retire from being Spider man but replacing him with Peter bit kind of a jerk isn’t terribly interesting
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:04 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean that’s Spencer’s writing style. He loves weird mysteries with a ton of reveals that get convoluted as they begin to stack up that's definitely true, though I also wonder if there was editorial interference with the Kindred storyline that led him to end his run early and depart to Substack
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:19 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean that’s Spencer’s writing style. He loves weird mysteries with a ton of reveals that get convoluted as they begin to stack up Yeah, I was getting massive Ultimate X-Men flashbacks reading that description.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:22 |
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I thought OMD aftermath was interesting at first when they had Peter dating a brand new love interest and he had magic protecting his secret identity so he could behave a bit fast and looser than normal socially. But they undid the magic quickly and it always feels like they go back and forth on what they want Peter's dating life to be and when you have that many wishy washy stories in such a short period of time it is really hard to dig out of. This sounds like I'm defending Kindred Saga and I'm loving not, I don't normally hate read things but that is about as close to it as I do when every new issue shows up. But I think the Spider-Man problems are bigger than it. I guess getting rid of Peter for two years or whatever gives them a chance to reset . . . but will they? Probably not.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:37 |
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there is absolutely no way peter's not going to be Spider-Man for two years hell he's not even leaving the book the upcoming solicits involve him and MJ solving a mystery at the hospital he's being kept in
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:52 |
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Barry Convex posted:that's definitely true, though I also wonder if there was editorial interference with the Kindred storyline that led him to end his run early and depart to Substack I mean the only thing I can think of was them undoing OMD and they changed their minds? But that would have been an epilogue only change and the story we got undoes it kind of anyway
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:53 |
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Blockhouse posted:there is absolutely no way peter's not going to be Spider-Man for two years Yes but there is another one that teases the biggest thing to happen to spider in decades. Which could be bullshit but you never know
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:54 |
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Blockhouse posted:there is absolutely no way peter's not going to be Spider-Man for two years I was too generous in thinking they could hold off for more than six months but drat they can’t even do that.
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 19:59 |
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I’m honestly more interested in why they are obsessed with Spider man every week. Sure he’s a big seller but they haven’t done it since brand new day so why now and with Riley instead?
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# ? Sep 29, 2021 20:09 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 16:44 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean the only thing I can think of was them undoing OMD and they changed their minds? But that would have been an epilogue only change and the story we got undoes it kind of anyway Yeah, I could see that, whether between Spencer going off to do Substack, or them deciding to hold off undoing OMD proper until ASM#900, the 60th Anniversary, or both. Honestly, it definitely feels like while Harry and/or Sins Past have been laid to rest, there's way too much left open that it's not getting revisited soon (if not by Spencer. You don't drop a friggin' Mayday Parker panel into a book and get to walk away, Marvel! Us Spider-Girl fans demand more. There are dozens of us! DOZENS! Edit: now I think about it, given Ewing dropped GOTG so quickly, maybe it's because he got given a more high profile book and head to clear his schedule. CharlestheHammer posted:I’m honestly more interested in why they are obsessed with Spider man every week. Sure he’s a big seller but they haven’t done it since brand new day so why now and with Riley instead? If they want to get to ASM #900 next year for his 60th, they're going to need to get 'em out the door. Maybe Beyond's a quick proof of concept before they roll out ASM for the anniversary. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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