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Or just ban me, that seems like it's quicker. The level of discourse reflects the abject absurdity of a grown adult throwing a tantrum over being told what they're doing isn't the smartest thing.StrangeThing posted:This is bullshit, because it's essentially saying that any rule to prevent the spread of COVID is justified, no matter how little health advice actually informed the rule in question. Or, get this: maybe the rule isn't permanent?! Maybe it's to drive down case loads to the point where this measure is actually overkill like you said at first? Also, I cannot loving believe I have to say this, but risk isn't binary. Because of the incubation period, transmissibility, and the possibility of asymptomatic transmission, you cannot accurately determine the risk of meetings unless you use an NPI that prevents that exact possibility. People suck at assessing risk, and you're falling into optimism bias.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Or just ban me, that seems like it's quicker. The level of discourse reflects the abject absurdity of a grown adult throwing a tantrum over being told what they're doing isn't the smartest thing. You still haven’t provided any proof that outdoor transmission between two vaccinated people is unsafe. Case loads in Melbourne are at about 600-700 a day right now. In a city of 5.5 million. 75% have a first dose. Outdoor visits between vaccinated people should be allowed. This isn’t hard or difficult.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Or, get this: maybe the rule isn't permanent?! Maybe it's to drive down case loads to the point where this measure is actually overkill like you said at first? So at which number would you say this is?
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Sep 25, 2021 23:42
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StrangeThing posted:You still haven’t provided any proof that outdoor transmission between two vaccinated people is unsafe. Does it bother you that I don't take you seriously?
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Sep 25, 2021 23:43
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Or just ban me, that seems like it's quicker. The level of discourse reflects the abject absurdity of a grown adult throwing a tantrum over being told what they're doing isn't the smartest thing. You are the only person here who can reasonably be described as “throwing a tantrum” over someone expressing a desire to see a single vaccinated friend outdoors. I don’t think anyone has gone as far as you have, although I only skimmed through the last page so I may be wrong.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:47
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cant cook creole bream posted:So at which number would you say this is? It's zero community spread pretty obviously
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Sep 25, 2021 23:49
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poll plane variant posted:It's zero community spread pretty obviously This is a ridiculous notion.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:50
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Does it bother you that I don't take you seriously? It bothers me your risk assessment is based on paranoia and not science.
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Sep 25, 2021 23:54
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StrangeThing posted:It bothers me your risk assessment is based on paranoia and not science. lol, lmao
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Sep 25, 2021 23:59
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:lol, lmao Signed, the chief health officer.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:01
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StrangeThing posted:It bothers me your risk assessment is based on paranoia and not science. Strange thing, just to be clear you’re a loving idiot and I suspect you may have already had COVID because you sure as hell are acting like you have brain damage. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 26, 2021 00:02
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Trade insults all you can want. It doesn’t change the facts.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:04
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StrangeThing posted:Trade insults all you can want. It doesn’t change the facts. The fact that you’re a selfish idiot? Sure.
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StrangeThing posted:Also LOL at someone telling me “it’s not hard”. Have you lived in state mandated lockdown for over 230 days? gently caress off. Self-mandated lockdown for ~500 days and counting. IIIIIIttttt'sss Eeeeeaaassssyyyyy. Get over yourself. StrangeThing posted:I guarantee if you had to experience what’s happening here you’d loving crack. Hahaahahahahahaahahaha Oh and here's a fun one about 6 fully-vaccinated breakthrough infections resulting from a (fully-vacinated) outdoor wedding, for all the outdoor fans  S w a y z e fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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LionArcher posted:The fact that you’re a selfish idiot? Sure. Two vaccinated people meeting outdoors is not risky. Your paranoia will not change this.
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S w a y z e posted:Self-mandated lockdown for ~500 days and counting. IIIIIIttttt'sss Eeeeeaaassssyyyyy. Get over yourself. Oh if it’s easy for you then it’s ready for everyone. My bad. gently caress the parents of special needs kids am I right? They don’t deserve to take their children outside.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:10
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StrangeThing posted:Two vaccinated people meeting outdoors is not risky. Your paranoia will not change this. Degrading NPIs takes you farther from zero covid and closer to "not having modern healthcare". When you have community spread you can basically have a social life or hospitals, not both.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:11
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StrangeThing posted:Oh if it’s easy for you then it’s ready for everyone. My bad. gently caress the parents of special needs kids am I right? They don’t deserve to take their children outside. The sob story just keeps getting worse and worse. Everyone's got an excuse.
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poll plane variant posted:Degrading NPIs takes you farther from zero covid and closer to "not having modern healthcare". When you have community spread you can basically have a social life or hospitals, not both. Based on this logic let’s station police on every corner and ban all outdoor exercise.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:12
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StrangeThing posted:Based on this logic let’s station police on every corner and ban all outdoor exercise. Unironically yes. You'd be at zero in a few weeks that way.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:13
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S w a y z e posted:The sob story just keeps getting worse and worse. Everyone's got an excuse. lol I’m not even talking about home visits. I’m literally talking about letting people go outside for more than two hours a day. Not even meeting people.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:13
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poll plane variant posted:Unironically yes. You'd be at zero in a few weeks that way. Lol you seriously believe that someone going on a walk, alone, near no one else, increases Covid risk?
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Sep 26, 2021 00:14
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StrangeThing posted:Lol you seriously believe that someone going on a walk, alone, near no one else, increases Covid risk? Relaxing NPIs provides cover for further violations, it's pretty simple. Personally given your lockdown rules vs lockdown results I already suspect there's plenty of cheating.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:15
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poll plane variant posted:Relaxing NPIs provides cover for further violations, it's pretty simple. Personally given your lockdown rules vs lockdown results I already suspect there's plenty of cheating. There is no arguing with this type of insanity. I need to go take my bins out to the front of my driveway now. Is that okay? Should I get my respirator first?
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Sep 26, 2021 00:17
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StrangeThing posted:There is no arguing with this type of insanity. Why do you have such a problem with respirators? They're excellent at doing their job.
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I am fairly sure that some people in this thread haven't left their house since 2010.Mischievous Mink posted:Why do you have such a problem with respirators? They're excellent at doing their job. Thus is true.
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StrangeThing posted:There is no arguing with this type of insanity. You just don't know what you're talking about throwing away.
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Sep 26, 2021 00:19
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StrangeThing posted:There is no arguing with this type of insanity. I swear to god people like you are actually going to make me move to China
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Sep 26, 2021 00:20
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Sep 26, 2021 00:27
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StrangeThing posted:There is no arguing with this type of insanity. Question: How are lockdown rules being enforced in Victoria? Sincerely. Like, is it easy to break the rules? Could you go and see your friend with almost certainty that you’d face zero repercussions?
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Well, this thread sure has gone to poo poo, huh? Oh well. Maybe the next iteration will be better, with proper (and hopefully very strict) moderation. Or maybe this one can stay as a general-purpose chat thread and a second Covid thread can be started where ridiculous moral judgments and vicious personal attacks are strictly off-limits, the threadbans from the original thread are carried over? From what some people have posted earlier, I get the sense that there might still be a desire for such a thread in D&D, but this one clearly is not it.
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Not to acquiesce to backseat moderation but I think this slapfight has gone on long enough. If you can't agree to disagree then just log off and go do something else for awhile. Please. e: if anyone wants to request a probe so they can more easily step away. Or keep being loving assholes and I can just surprise you with one. If you want to shout mean things about people you can do it in the blow thread I guess but tone it down a notch in here please. Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Sep 26, 2021 |
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StrangeThing posted:Two vaccinated people meeting outdoors is not risky. Your paranoia will not change this. This is probably mostly true (at this moment). But how does a public health system verify that people are vaccinated at all? The honor system was tried in May. I do not think that was a good move. There could be ways, but I don’t know what. IDK if it’s really my role to say so, but I I hope we all recognize that all of us are in a scary situation that we haven’t dealt before. It’s normal to get emotional while talking about it. All of us have a stake. I hope we can be supportive of one another but also recognize that it’s very easy (and normal) to get upset or combative when discussing this stuff. e: started writing before the above post, sounds good.
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mawarannahr posted:This is probably mostly true (at this moment). But how does a public health system verify that people are vaccinated at all? The honor system was tried in May. I do not think that was a good move. There could be ways, but I don’t know what. I don't think your post is really the kind I was talking about, but I appreciate your acknowledgement, and I do appreciate people stepping back and giving a little space after tensions run high.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Well, this thread sure has gone to poo poo, huh? Can anyone say with a straight face that the last thread was worse? It’s pretty funny that that’s true of the thread where the OP himself was threadbanned.
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Another family member was hospitalized with covid and is in the ICU. Unvaxxed, naturally. When he dies that will be #4 from my family and none of the remaining living ones are planning to get the vaccine. At this rate I might not have a family by the end of the year.
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HonorableTB posted:Another family member was hospitalized with covid and is in the ICU. Unvaxxed, naturally. When he dies that will be #4 from my family and none of the remaining living ones are planning to get the vaccine. At this rate I might not have a family by the end of the year. Similarly, roommate with covid brought her fiance's parents over (one who is unvaxxed) for the weekend and tonight they have dinner reservations for 7 at this local restaurant. I've grown pretty numb to the risk of covid exposure in this household because its been constant playing-with-fire at this place since i've moved here.
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Platystemon posted:Can anyone say with a straight face that the last thread was worse? Didn't the last thread have someone talking about how they tested positive for covid but they were gonna go to brunch anyway because they felt fine?
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mawarannahr posted:This is probably mostly true (at this moment). But how does a public health system verify that people are vaccinated at all? The honor system was tried in May. I do not think that was a good move. There could be ways, but I don’t know what. I live in Québec, and our provincial government implemented vaccine passports at the beginning of the month. Individuals can download an app that displays a QR code that links to their vaccine record, and businesses have a separate app they use to scan the code and verify that the individual is fully vaccinated. We also have to present a piece of government-issued photo ID in order to verify that we are who the app says we are. The system seems to be working as intended - case counts rose through August before the passports were implemented, but have since plateaued. Then again, Ontario (which borders Québec to the west) is seeing the same plateau in cases, hospitalizations, and ICU admissions, and they just started checking vaccination status this past week, so who knows.
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I mean I've used my buttons here a single time and have been trying to give people the leeway to disagree and be angry and confused and scared, because we are trying to live through this pandemic. I recognize that it's probably a little too hands off at this point, but what I do see over the last thread is a wider set of people posting. So far I've gotten lots of feedback from a lot of folks and I'm trying to be considerate of everyone so I do appreciate the folks who are sticking around and helping pull up the thread when it needs it.
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