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Yeah teeth didn't evolve to chomp on this pizza I have here, but they sure come in handy!
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Plants "want" their fruit to be eaten. Not certain why the fruit only getting eaten by birds and not mammals would be beneficial. Maybe mammals would eat the plant as well? (Plants do not think; what the beneficial evolution is here from a reproductive standpoint, I don't know.)
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Cobalt-60 posted:Plants "want" their fruit to be eaten. Not certain why the fruit only getting eaten by birds and not mammals would be beneficial. Maybe mammals would eat the plant as well? Birds are more likely to poo poo the seeds out a long way away, unless they're flightless birds. Surtsey has plants.
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Cobalt-60 posted:Plants "want" their fruit to be eaten. Not certain why the fruit only getting eaten by birds and not mammals would be beneficial. Maybe mammals would eat the plant as well? Plant eating mammals tend to have molars that'll crush seeds, and a crushed seed is useless. Lots of birds, though, will eat seeds whole while they're eating the pulp of the fruit and then they'll poo poo out viable seeds out somewhere else.
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^^^ hello fellow plant growerCobalt-60 posted:Plants "want" their fruit to be eaten. Not certain why the fruit only getting eaten by birds and not mammals would be beneficial. Maybe mammals would eat the plant as well? If a bird eats a seed it then shits a viable seed far away. If a mammal eats a seed it probably chews up the seed and digests it fully and shits out a nonviable cellulose seed carcass. So most fruit seeds are adapted to being dangerous to mammals (capsaicin, hallucinogens, poison) but are not harmful to birds or reptiles. Then there's megaflora like avocados that evolved explicitly to be eaten by megafauna like giant sloths, which died out, so now we have to replicate the act of their giant seeds being digested by huge mammals by removing skins and soaking them in nutrient water before planting them in rich soil to simulate being poo poo out.
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Birds also poo poo literally constantly, while mammals may have hours between shits where the seed might sit in their digestive tract. Birds need to be light as possible and will dump their loads. Birds are also weird about their food in that for some reason they tend to eat part of it and then fling the rest of it all over the god drat place. People who own parrots know this - if you give them a seed ball they'll break off part of it and chuck the rest on the floor, and they will not take it back, but will happily accept a fresh one.
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No. 1 ANIME HATER posted:Then there's megaflora like avocados that evolved explicitly to be eaten by megafauna like giant sloths, which died out, so now we have to replicate the act of their giant seeds being digested by huge mammals by removing skins and soaking them in nutrient water before planting them in rich soil to simulate being poo poo out. 
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My Lovely Horse posted:mentally picturing the circumference of an avocado seed and They were big bois!  (is my imgur thingy not working?)
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My Lovely Horse posted:mentally picturing the circumference of an avocado seed and Wild avocados can have small seeds. 
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Platystemon posted:Wild avocados can have small seeds. Don't post small avocado.
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Paladinus posted:Don't post small avocado. Just stick to the rhubarbs and the grapes that you're used to.
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Sir Lemming posted:Just stick to the rhubarbs and the grapes that you're used to. We know that you're gonna have it on toast or guacamole.
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It's great for breakfast
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Sir Lemming posted:Just stick to the rhubarbs and the grapes that you're used to. I don't want no shrub
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Paladinus posted:Don't post small avocado. Ugh another loving gatekeeping Hasshole.
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Martman posted:jeffrey checking in on cspam
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lol that's pretty good
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CoolCab posted:we must imagine sisyphus happy, so we added achievements
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Khizan posted:Plant eating mammals tend to have molars that'll crush seeds, and a crushed seed is useless. Lots of birds, though, will eat seeds whole while they're eating the pulp of the fruit and then they'll poo poo out viable seeds out somewhere else. this occasionally extends to birds making GBS threads out viable fish eggs too, a piece of information which has solved a few long-standing ecological questions.
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Having a fruit that's got hundreds of seeds so that a few don't get crushed by molars is a pro their strat. Corn is a good if ultimately ineffective example.
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Outrail posted:Having a fruit that's got hundreds of seeds so that a few don't get crushed by molars is a pro their strat. Wasn't pre-human intervention corn basically just wheat?
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Baron von Eevl posted:Wasn't pre-human intervention corn basically just wheat? Not exactly. Wheat and corn are both grasses, but they're in different genuses and the history of corn domestication is pretty tangled.
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Baron von Eevl posted:Wasn't pre-human intervention corn basically just wheat? I don't think so, though it was extensively cultivated into its current form. However, "corn" is a somewhat outdated word which means "wheat or other cereal grains," while what we call corn was originally called "maize." It is itself a type of cereal grain, though, so it looks like the meaning shrunk to just mean maize. e: for example the British Corn Laws of 1815 and 1846 concerned food imports generally, especially grains, not primarily what we now call corn. Hodgepodge has a new favorite as of 04:33 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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Hodgepodge posted:I don't think so, though it was extensively cultivated into its current form. However, "corn" is a somewhat outdated word which means "wheat or other cereal grains," while what we call corn was originally called "maize." It is itself a type of cereal grain, though, so it looks like the meaning shrunk to just mean maize. I looked it up, and maize gets harvested to become corn
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RFC2324 posted:I looked it up, and maize gets harvested to become corn Ah, didn't know that distinction. Looks like the original term is now a technical term for the plant, I guess?
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I love how absolutely any topic can be mentioned on these forums, and within a few minutes, calm authoritative goons will emerge to provide a helpful summary.
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Hodgepodge posted:Ah, didn't know that distinction. Looks like the original term is now a technical term for the plant, I guess? http://www.differencebetween.net/object/comparisons-of-food-items/difference-between-corn-and-maize/ apparently, wheat is referred to as corn in britain?  that seems like something that I would have encountered before
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how absolutely any topic can be mentioned on these forums, and within a few minutes, calm authoritative goons will emerge to provide a helpful summary. Doesn't work for butter knives.
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RFC2324 posted:http://www.differencebetween.net/object/comparisons-of-food-items/difference-between-corn-and-maize/ Yeah, 'corn' just means 'grain.' (Basically.)
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Not even 'grain as in grass seeds' , hence 'corned' beef with grains of salt.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Doesn't work for butter knives. Could you link that I'd forgotten that saga
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RFC2324 posted:http://www.differencebetween.net/object/comparisons-of-food-items/difference-between-corn-and-maize/ The colonials hosed this up. They called the stuff “Indian corn”, and, well, since all the Old World corns (wheat, barley, rye, oats) had specific, familiar names, “Indian corn” became just “corn”. Something sort of similar is going on today with “cereal”, which in its unqualified form often conveys breakfast cereal.
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how absolutely any topic can be mentioned on these forums, and within a few minutes, calm authoritative goons will emerge to provide a helpful summary. https://youtu.be/QAdaD8RaC-4 Not too long later someone came into the thread and said "I'm a beekeeper and my brother is on the Honey Board." And for one afternoon the place to learn about bees and honey was the 1pm GameDay thread. sebmojo posted:Could you link that I'd forgotten that saga
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Iirc: someone was like "what's this knife?", and some goon materialised and started laying down extremely deep science about fuckin butter knives, and everyone was like haha I love this forum!, then another goon swung in and just eviscerated the first goon and said they were butter knife neophytes and it was on like donkey kong
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Who has a copy of that conversation between two SCUBA guys where one shows up and starts calling the first ridiculous diver terms like dry legs or tank tapper or some weirdly esoteric diving poo poo?
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FishMcCool posted:I'll chime in to add that the Farming Simulator e-sports league is bloody awesome. I saw a youtube video which explained how the competitive scene grew out of mods to the game, and how it got picked up, streamlined, and made into a league sponsored by the various farming equipment companies. That was good timing as they were playing the last rounds of that league at the weekend, and I keep an eye on it since. It's insanely funny, well-balanced, and full of both skill and strategy. I highly recommend it as a show.
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how absolutely any topic can be mentioned on these forums, and within a few minutes, calm authoritative goons will emerge to provide a helpful summary. Which is wrong about 60% of the time, but still - it's nice to have.
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