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Yeah, wasn’t it originally supposed to end with them sitting down to have a civil discussion?
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The Men In Black are cops though. They have cool clothes but they still shoot and beat up perps.
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Alhazred posted:The Men In Black are cops though. They have cool clothes but they still shoot and beat up perps. If you just look at the first movie you can see that they were trying to do something different where they don't just run around blasting aliens but it got subsumed by Hollywood's need for shootouts.
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muscles like this! posted:If you just look at the first movie you can see that they were trying to do something different where they don't just run around blasting aliens but it got subsumed by Hollywood's need for shootouts.
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MIB are worse than cops: they're ICE for Earth.
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Sep 27, 2021 17:16
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MIB hate the human border patrol guys
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Tunicate posted:MIB hate the human border patrol guys Because they're sloppy, not because they disagree with what they are doing.
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Also, K constantly puts J into position he has no business being in with little to no training. Like...he's supposed to help some squid alien give birth his first week on the job? And maybe K could have given him a little heads up that "The Noisy Cricket" is actually a massive disintegration ray?
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Sep 27, 2021 19:33
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It's all part of the test. K had to dive in headfirst, he wants to see if J can do the same Anybody can be trained to handle a specific set of situations, K won't feel comfortable retiring unless he knows his replacement can handle the unexpected
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flavor.flv posted:It's all part of the test. K had to dive in headfirst, he wants to see if J can do the same
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Are there only ever twenty-six agents? Did the previous J die?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Are there only ever twenty-six agents? Did the previous J die? The movie both starts and ends with a retirement, so it's not inconceivable that they just rotate the letters as people leave.
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theironjef posted:The movie both starts and ends with a retirement, so it's not inconceivable that they just rotate the letters as people leave. Well K recruits J (backwards in alphabet), then J recruits L (two letters forwards), so yeah they probably rotate. Agent M was open for either Micheal Jackson or the MIB international girl.
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Alhazred posted:Gotta wonder how many potential replacements K burned through with that theory. I'm pretty sure it mentions this in the original movie outright and then doubles down when J is doing the same thing in the opening scenes of 2.
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Wiping an agent's memory after an entire career of service seems pretty drat cold. Surely a few words of brainwashing can't really substitute for 40 years of memories. I wonder what a retired agent thinks they've spent their life doing after that.
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Imagined posted:Wiping an agent's memory after an entire career of service seems pretty drat cold. Surely a few words of brainwashing can't really substitute for 40 years of memories. I wonder what a retired agent thinks they've spent their life doing after that. Being in a coma.
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Imagined posted:Wiping an agent's memory after an entire career of service seems pretty drat cold. Surely a few words of brainwashing can't really substitute for 40 years of memories. I wonder what a retired agent thinks they've spent their life doing after that. I vaguely recall a scene where they tell background agents to give a witness happy memories after a mind wipe. I'd assume that K had years of fond memories of working at a post office implanted when he retired.
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Imagined posted:Wiping an agent's memory after an entire career of service seems pretty drat cold. Surely a few words of brainwashing can't really substitute for 40 years of memories. I wonder what a retired agent thinks they've spent their life doing after that. A nice trip to Mars, maybe?
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Sorbocules posted:I vaguely recall a scene where they tell background agents to give a witness happy memories after a mind wipe. I'd assume that K had years of fond memories of working at a post office implanted when he retired. MariusLecter posted:Being in a coma. 
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Sorbocules posted:I vaguely recall a scene where they tell background agents to give a witness happy memories after a mind wipe. I'd assume that K had years of fond memories of working at a post office implanted when he retired. Kinda hard to gel with his cover story of being in a coma while working with the MIB. e; beaten cause i got up to clean something before hitting post.
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Everyone talks about Will Smith in those movies but drat if Tommy Lee Jones didn't deliver an absolutely perfect performance deserving of a better script. I loved him in No Country For Old Men where he could really lean into the "authority figure that's too old and tired to deal with all this stupid poo poo" persona.
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Sep 27, 2021 22:24
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Isn't that just Tommy Lee Jones in every role he's had for at least three decades?
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FFT posted:Isn't that just Tommy Lee Jones in every role he's had for at least three decades? Someone has forgotten Batman Forever.
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Rockman Reserve posted:Someone has forgotten Batman Forever. He could not sanction Jim Carrey’s buffoonery
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Alhazred posted:Gotta wonder how many potential replacements K burned through with that theory. Pretty sure none. The guy he retires at the beginning of the first movie, D, is as old or older than Jones and implied to be another veteran of the first contact incident.
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christmas boots posted:He could not sanction Jim Carrey’s buffoonery He was 100% right.
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Jedit posted:A lot of what appear to be landlines are actually VOIP these days. My work switched away from desk phones a year or two before COVID and now we all have numbers on a single exchange no matter where we work. The chief drawback is that if your Internet goes down you've got no way to tell ICT that there's a problem. VOIP is OK until it isn't. POTS lines always work. I will never not have a POTS line available. The power goes out? POTS is still up. Some jackass screws up a router in Illinois? POTS is still up. You can't kill POTS. I use my home phone. It's a business line. It always works. Sometimes my cell gets wonky on me, but I've always got a dial tone on POTS. When I've set up VOIP systems at work, I still always maintain 2 POTS lines. One for credit card, one for fax/voice. Not being able to process credit cards can really screw you when you have ISP problems. Of course you can store-and-forward but it doesn't necessarily work and you can lose a full day of sales.
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mostlygray posted:VOIP is OK until it isn't. POTS lines always work. I will never not have a POTS line available. The power goes out? POTS is still up. Some jackass screws up a router in Illinois? POTS is still up. We have zero pots lines across our enterprise. eFax beats traditional fax in every way, the one elevator we have that requires a hard line has a mobile hotspot on a UPS to emulate pots, and voice comm on a physical desk phone just isn't particularly important in 2021. ISP issues can be sidestepped by a 4g backup if uptime is that important, and pots lines are as vulnerable as internet copper or fiber to the "rear end in a top hat with a backhoe"/"truck hit a utility pole" problems.
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Plus there's the already mentioned fact that it's all voip anyway very quickly after it leaves your house.
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Rockman Reserve posted:Someone has forgotten Batman Forever. 
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Imagined posted:Plus there's the already mentioned fact that it's all voip anyway very quickly after it leaves your house. that's just asking for a new genre where the modern phone system breaks down because the monster breaks the internet, and then a salty group of old timers wire up their morse codes or telegrams or whatever to save the day. I'm looking forward to it.
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We use dial up modems for my work all the time still so we have a handful of dedicated POTS lines.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:that's just asking for a new genre where the modern phone system breaks down because the monster breaks the internet, and then a salty group of old timers wire up their morse codes or telegrams or whatever to save the day. I'm looking forward to it. Independence Day did this just over a quarter of a century ago. 
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Breetai posted:Independence Day did this just over a quarter of a century ago. True but I was picturing something more over the top/dramatic like that goofy scene in battleship.
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I just watched a movie called Martyr's lane and it was actually pretty good and not what I expected at all. But it also did something that bothers me in a lot of movies - characters phase in and out of existence as needed. The girl's sister is either the focus of that part of the story or she's just non-existant. Same with the dad. I liked it but they were more focused on just getting to the ending than how cohesive the story needed to be. yeah I eat ass has a new favorite as of 03:30 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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For some reason I have been binging the 'Secret Service Guy Saves President'/'Bodyguard takes on an army' movies and firstly: holy poo poo there are a lot of these! But also a mild peeve: every single one of these movies hinges on the evil plot against the white house/london/billionaire having an inside man at work. Like its unfathomable that security could be breached without someone working from within. Makes it a game trying to guess which one of the three extra characters introduced at the start will be the traitor. In the end my action movie itch is mildly scratched but I have yet to meet tue schlocky dumb movie that tops The Rock.
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DarkDobe posted:For some reason I have been binging the 'Secret Service Guy Saves President'/'Bodyguard takes on an army' movies and firstly: holy poo poo there are a lot of these! Then there's London Has Fallen in which the terrorist organization is the greatest undercover agency in the world, having infiltrated not only like every aspect of the police force, but also the Queen's guard as well as even emergency personnel. And they've reached all these positions in two years.
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The Rock rather than Con Air?
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HopperUK posted:The Rock rather than Con Air?
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DarkDobe posted:For some reason I have been binging the 'Secret Service Guy Saves President'/'Bodyguard takes on an army' movies and firstly: holy poo poo there are a lot of these! In Jackie Chan movies it is always the British or Hong Kong... er.
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