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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:J&J is actually an Adenovirus vector vaccine like AZ. The inactivated virus ones are Sinopharm and Sinovac. There we go, an excellent example of why people should be listening to experts and not doing their own research like I was.
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Sep 30, 2021 20:02
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infernal machines posted:I feel like if you're taking medical advice from Joe "God's perfect idiot" Rogan, sooner or later you're going to get what you deserve. I used to think Joe Rogan was they absolute nadir of human intelligence, the scientifically provably Stupidest Human Alive. Then I remembered he has an audience who listen to him and act on his advice.
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Sep 30, 2021 20:08
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Oh look, Kenney and friends will be up again this afternoon to get grilled on air once more over the Covid fuckup.
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Sep 30, 2021 20:43
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https://twitter.com/tylerrdawson/status/1443320739390705671?s=19 How is it that every time something absolutely idiotic is happening, Danielle Smith is right there? Like I can't understand why even Conservatives like her, she did an abysmal job of leading the Wildrose party right up until she defected from it.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:00
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Arc Hammer posted:Oh look, Kenney and friends will be up again this afternoon to get grilled on air once more over the Covid fuckup. At this point there is nothing that could shock me with regards to how low he can sink. Someone will ask him if he has ever felt shame in his life and he will reject the premise of the question.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:01
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PittTheElder posted:https://twitter.com/tylerrdawson/status/1443320739390705671?s=19 rofl I love this threading the needle bullshit rightwingers have to do where they can't tell their base they are stupid morons for ot getting the vaccine but also know that they need those stupid morons to get vaccinated to get poo poo back to normal
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Sep 30, 2021 21:12
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In a rational universe Notley would just have to point to a picture of Kenney to win the next election. Alas, Alberta.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:15
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I have no evidence for this but I believe there is a (likely small) portion of anti-vaxxers who are just scared of needles and don't want to admit it, likely due to toxic masculinity. A vaccine that's one shots instead of two might have some impact on vaccine rates.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:39
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Chicken posted:I have no evidence for this but I believe there is a (likely small) portion of anti-vaxxers who are just scared of needles and don't want to admit it, likely due to toxic masculinity. A vaccine that's one shots instead of two might have some impact on vaccine rates. I've seen talk of potentially making a nasal spray based vaccine. It's probably too late for that to make a difference now, but in the future (even just for flu vaccines) it would be interesting to see how much that affects hesitancy.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:44
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HappyHippo posted:I've seen talk of potentially making a nasal spray based vaccine. It's probably too late for that to make a difference now, but in the future (even just for flu vaccines) it would be interesting to see how much that affects hesitancy. Early polio vaccines were oral. Needlephobia is definitely a barrier to vaccine uptake. Is the nasal spray a vaccine? There is a nasal spray that is more of a post-exposure prophylactic that has been developed by a Canadian company and is currently in clinical trials: https://scrip.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/SC144632/Canadian-Biotech-Progresses-COVID19-Nasal-Spray-Claims-Promise-Against-Variants
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Sep 30, 2021 21:48
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HappyHippo posted:I've seen talk of potentially making a nasal spray based vaccine. It's probably too late for that to make a difference now, but in the future (even just for flu vaccines) it would be interesting to see how much that affects hesitancy. Nasal flu vaccines (Flumist etc) exist but they're more expensive or something so they don't get used much outside of kids who absolutely can't tolerate needles.
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Sep 30, 2021 21:52
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HappyHippo posted:I've seen talk of potentially making a nasal spray based vaccine. It's probably too late for that to make a difference now, but in the future (even just for flu vaccines) it would be interesting to see how much that affects hesitancy. They used a nasal vaccine in Contagion, a film that seemed so prescient at first but now seems laughably naive. Jude Law's character would be elected to public office if that movie was remade today.
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Sep 30, 2021 22:04
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Cacator posted:Jude Law's character would be elected to public office if that movie was remade today. I mean, that's not even theoretical. The most unrealistic part of that movie was the violent mobs were the ones who wanted vaccines.
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Sep 30, 2021 22:11
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Kenney starting out by boasting about all the hard work Alberta has done for the rest of the country and that Canadians are "all in this together." Oh and he ended up taking the Newfies help after telling them no thanks two days ago.
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Sep 30, 2021 22:45
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Wistful of Dollars posted:In a rational universe Notley would just have to point to a picture of Kenney to win the next election. "My opponent literally killed thousands of people through horrifying incompetence." [loses in historic landslide]
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Sep 30, 2021 22:46
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So this demand for J&J doses seems to me like a cross between an idiotic request to satisfy vaccine morons but also as a way to blame Trudeau when they run into procurement snags.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:11
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Lol Kenney just said that Ontario had a lockdown and it didn't stop the wave six months ago. And yet we're not making GBS threads the bed right now. Somebody help Kenney is making me side with Ford.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:21
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"if some people have curated their own information about this and come to their own conclusions, we'll respect that" Holy loving gently caress. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. gently caress Jason Kenney. Also, Rick Bell loving hates Jason Kenney and i'm here for it. More people need to clown on this loving gently caress.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:25
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Arc Hammer posted:Lol Kenney just said that Ontario had a lockdown and it didn't stop the wave six months ago. uh... it did though, didn't it? Like schools opened, apocalypse started, lockdown, 3 weeks later numbers go down, then vaccines started being offered broadly? They had a loving press conference in march where the chief medical officer came out and directly told reporters Ontario was on course for a catastrophe but that that was the plan
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Sep 30, 2021 23:25
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Arc Hammer posted:Lol Kenney just said that Ontario had a lockdown and it didn't stop the wave six months ago. I'm fairly convinced that Doug Ford is doing the right thing in Ontario because he's ambitious and wants to be the next leader of the CPC, so he's drawing as stark a contrast against Kenney as possible.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:27
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Powershift posted:"if some people have curated their own information about this and come to their own conclusions, we'll respect that" Alternative facts, bro.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:27
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:uh... it did though, didn't it? Like schools opened, apocalypse started, lockdown, 3 weeks later numbers go down, then vaccines started being offered broadly? Don't let a little thing like reality get in the way of Kenney making a bad faith argument to justify avoiding a lockdown. Any time people point out how loving terrible the situation is in Alberta he fumbles and starts yelling about how bad its been elsewhere in the world so you can't say it's his fault.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:28
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Another Bill posted:I'm fairly convinced that Doug Ford is doing the right thing in Ontario because he's ambitious and wants to be the next leader of the CPC, so he's drawing as stark a contrast against Kenney as possible. he also went through exactly this arc in April, but he relented quicker e: ^^^ silly me 
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Sep 30, 2021 23:28
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So now he's straight up lying about telling Furey and the CAF to gently caress off on Tuesday.
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Sep 30, 2021 23:32
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:uh... it did though, didn't it? Like schools opened, apocalypse started, lockdown, 3 weeks later numbers go down, then vaccines started being offered broadly? Lol that loving press conference where everyone came out going  the plan is mass death?
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Oct 1, 2021 00:05
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MA-Horus posted:Lol that loving press conference where everyone came out going The reporter asking if they had missed something because 'it sounds like we are headed into a catastrophe' and the guy responding 'yes that is how I would characterize it' was pretty good for a dark comedy bit I have to admit.
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Oct 1, 2021 00:18
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Based off of the projections before the vaccination campaign ramped up Brown was right to call for a worst case scenario. He was literally the only person at the press conferences who wasn't sugarcoating how hosed the situation was. I kind of want to see him come back but it seems Moore is pulling double duty as CMOH and doing the modeling updates by himself.
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Oct 1, 2021 00:27
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Arc Hammer posted:So this demand for J&J doses seems to me like a cross between an idiotic request to satisfy vaccine morons but also as a way to blame Trudeau when they run into procurement snags. Basically. J&J hasn't been forthcoming on when deliveries are going to happen after our one batch of 300k got thrown out after that manufacturer whoopsie, but I'd imagine the Feds haven't really pushed the point because we have millions and millions of mRNA doses just sitting around so why should it matter? He can't blame Trudeau for there being a vaccine shortage so he's going to try and pretend it's a big deal that one specific vaccine isn't available because he knows the Feds can't just send those J&J shots because they don't have any to send.
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Oct 1, 2021 00:32
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Powershift posted:"if some people have curated their own information about this and come to their own conclusions, we'll respect that" Jason Kennedy should respect me curating my own information and coming to the conclusion that they are a child murderer
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Oct 1, 2021 00:38
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Basically. J&J hasn't been forthcoming on when deliveries are going to happen after our one batch of 300k got thrown out after that manufacturer whoopsie, but I'd imagine the Feds haven't really pushed the point because we have millions and millions of mRNA doses just sitting around so why should it matter? Also a fuckton of Az which as mentioned, works the exact same way as j+j
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Oct 1, 2021 02:27
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Justin Godscock posted:I found with my faith that it really boils down to having basic respect for your fellow human being (I'm a rare breed). It gets difficult when you are faced with hostility just for the simple fact you are Christian and willing to just have a conversation. maybe...you could lead with 'I don't believe being LGBT is a sin'? seems like it'd nip that in the bud some when having these conversations edit: that sounded more sarcastic than I meant it to, it was an honest suggestion Aoi fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Oct 1, 2021 |
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Oct 1, 2021 05:52
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 Hope everyone had a commercially viable Truth & Reconciliation Day.
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Oct 1, 2021 12:42
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Powershift posted:"if some people have curated their own information about this and come to their own conclusions, we'll respect that" So is there a limit to this utterly idiotic theory? By this logic, those freemen on the land have the right idea, having curated their legal studies and come to a conclusion that means income tax is literal theft, and that any effort to impede my travel in an automobile or on a plane is an actual crime against humanity. I could probably justify ignoring most regulations or rules or laws the same way, but somehow I doubt this disingenuous sack of poo poo would agree to most of those. Do you all know how hard it is, being torn between wanting the earth to swallow Kenney up now so that maybe someone more competent is put in charge (lol, won't get that from the UCP), and wanting him to stay all the way till the next election loving up and pissing people off and killing people the whole time, hoping that Kenney Covid ends up being mentioned in the same breath as Rae Days or Fast Ferries, and leaves this rightwing trash in the dumpster for a few decades? I didn't expect a premier who somehow hosed things up worse than a literal drunkard rear end in a top hat, but here we are.
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Oct 1, 2021 14:54
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Karatela posted:
Scott Moe has probably hosed up harder because he just waits for Kenney to do something then copies it a week later.
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Oct 1, 2021 15:14
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Kenney looked pretty drunk and sweaty last night.
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Oct 1, 2021 15:26
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With Ministers like these Trudeau doesn't really need Otoole or the other opposition leaders to slag him off. Today Patty Hajdu and Jonathan Wilkinson were both asked for comments about Trudeau deciding to take the first National Day of Truth and Reconciliation holiday to fly out to BC with his family and hang out on the beach. Their answers were less than stellar deflections. Wilkinson especially, because he responded by saying "I think the media should instead be focusing on all the hard work our government has done to advance Truth and Reconciliation rather than ask about that."
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Oct 1, 2021 19:50
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Arc Hammer posted:With Ministers like these Trudeau doesn't really need Otoole or the other opposition leaders to slag him off. Today Patty Hajdu and Jonathan Wilkinson were both asked for comments about Trudeau deciding to take the first National Day of Truth and Reconciliation holiday to fly out to BC with his family and hang out on the beach. Their answers were less than stellar deflections. Wilkinson especially, because he responded by saying "I think the media should instead be focusing on all the hard work our government has done to advance Truth and Reconciliation rather than ask about that." Havnt they barely even scratched the surface of Truth and Reconciliation despite having multiple years now to do actual work towards it? Am I crazy in thinking that asking people step back and look at how poorly they have handled it is the worst way to deflect the question??
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Oct 1, 2021 19:54
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That's why you're not a politician. Too many of them speak before they think and they're a really thin skinned defensive bunch.
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Oct 1, 2021 19:57
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Arc Hammer posted:That's why you're not a politician. Too many of them speak before they think and they're a really thin skinned defensive bunch. Way to kill my post-pharmacy dreams. 
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Oct 1, 2021 22:06
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Scott Moe has probably hosed up harder because he just waits for Kenney to do something then copies it a week later. I of course was referring to the last Premier if Calgary, Ralph Klein.
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Oct 1, 2021 22:34
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