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Ginette Reno posted:I haven't seen this yet. Is it funny or is it heavy on the drama? Sopranos was always a comedy to me first and foremost so I'll be sad if this doesn't make me laugh a lot! I'd say it's a crime drama above all but there are moments of levity, far more so if you're familiar with the show. It's not a comedy though.
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Oct 1, 2021 17:46
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Movie bad, kinda ruins the show by association.
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Oct 1, 2021 19:41
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A successor work can never ruin a previous one. Just ignore it if it bothers you
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Oct 1, 2021 19:43
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Flesnolk posted:Movie bad, kinda ruins the show by association. Hard to see how this is possible. Does Tony get his mobster powers from a meteorite or something?
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Oct 1, 2021 20:05
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Is the movie really not streaming on any legit service in Canada?
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Oct 1, 2021 20:08
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That actually sounds funny while the movie is more bland bad
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Oct 1, 2021 20:08
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Regarding the lack of law enforcement keeping up with that pygmy thing in Jersey. Firstly, artistic license, there's no way those details in those murders. I agree with the effort post. The in-universe explanation of the law's shift in priorities from mafia to terrorism fits perfectly too, and is wholly believable. But I think in the show, the law was experiencing its own type of slow collapse, same as the mafia, and same as pretty much every American institution then and since. Every thing is framed as so fully poked with holes, it's a wonder anything ever stays afloat. I think the show pairs so well with The Wire because the latter highlights the slow collapse over and over--"Do more with less" and "Juking the stats" and "The whole world shines poo poo and calls it gold" Multiple times in the Wire, the Baltimore major crimes consult with federal agents but are denied resources after some internal review. The series' best detective says "You follow drugs, you get drug addicts and drug dealers. But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the gently caress it's gonna take you." But the decision makers repeatedly demand the police follow drugs and not money, regardless of how many giant flashing red arrow signs are pointing at money. Anyway, I watched Many Saints this morning and I liked it more than I thought I would. Seems a lot of people are having a Made in America cut to black response, they wanted something more and something different and are kicking and screaming because the movie isn't a perfect ideal. I'm satisfied and am excited to watch it again in a few days.
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Just got back from watching the movie. It was fine. I'd give a B. I think the movie's biggest problem is that it wanted to have its cake and eat it too. It should have been way more focused on Dickie and Howard's stories. Instead they wanted that AND they wanted a baby Sopranos story. The movie starts out strong with Dickie and Howard's stories running parallel and intertwining at points but Howard's story kinda ends with a wet fart at the end, without the same resolution of Dickie's. Young Tony and all his friends being the movie definitely made it feel overstuffed. With all of them in the movie, I really have to wonder if they're trying to 'backdoor pilot' something more with these actors. That said, everyone was really good in it.
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Oct 1, 2021 20:31
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Great article from Sepinwall: https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-features/many-saints-newark-recap-spoilers-1232129/
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Oct 1, 2021 21:11
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I enjoyed it. I can see why others might not but the cast was great. Gandolfini’s kid loving nailed it.
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Oct 1, 2021 21:13
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We should keep in mind that Chase wants to make a "Tony Soprano in his 20's" movie too with Terence Winter, who is super into it.
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Oct 1, 2021 21:24
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Holy poo poo that was awful. Some of the individual performances were good but the story was sloppy and boring. Massive disappointment from someone who has watched the show many times through. Where was the loving comedy?
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Oct 1, 2021 21:33
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I suppose all goons ought to keep in mind that there are many on this website that are deathly afraid of the reprisal they would face should they express a positive opinion about something new
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Oct 1, 2021 21:39
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Imagine not thinking there’s any comedy in this consistently extremely funny movie
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codo27 posted:I suppose all goons ought to keep in mind that there are many on this website that are deathly afraid of the reprisal they would face should they express a positive opinion about something new Reprisal? Why would children watch a sopranos movie
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Oct 1, 2021 21:47
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Like if our like something just say it it’s all opinions, don’t pretend there is some silent majority that agree with you to scared to speak up
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Oct 1, 2021 21:49
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Can we do the same thing we did when discussing the finale and not turn this into a bunch of insults and generalizations? It's been a great thread for years now and I'd rather not have it turn into the same old bullshit of "You disagree with me so you're a loving idiot"
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Oct 1, 2021 21:51
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On that note it would be nice to get some elaboration instead of drive-by stuff about how it sucks or it's awesome. It doesn't do much for discussion to just blast your immediate opinion at the thread in five words or less.
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Stare-Out posted:On that note it would be nice to get some elaboration instead of drive-by stuff about how it sucks or it's awesome. It doesn't do much for discussion to just blast your immediate opinion at the thread in five words or less. Yeah, this is my biggest issue. The first post about the movie after it came out was a drive-by “lol this sucks” shitpost
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Oct 1, 2021 22:04
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I mean it’s perfectly fine to say you think something is good or bad. Your opinion doesn’t have to drive discussion or whatever. If you want to discuss something that’s on you
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Oct 1, 2021 22:13
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Just 10 minutes into it but the guy playing Sil is doing a horrible caricature
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Oct 1, 2021 22:57
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A hit is a hit, and this is not a hit.
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Oct 1, 2021 22:58
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I don't think the movie takes away from the show, I think it adds a bit, but it's not a fantastic movie by any stretch. Mid credits scene makes me think Chase is going to follow up.
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Oct 1, 2021 22:59
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So it was David Chase that was Ecrole DiMeo? It wasn't a waste of time to see, but it wasn't great. This would have benefited from a longer format like a limited run season on HBO. The Newark riots framing were apropos for our current world, but this like so many other things needed more time to flesh out. Someone said it was like a clip show and that was the best assessment I've seen so far.
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PostNouveau posted:Just 10 minutes into it but the guy playing Sil is doing a horrible caricature You’re right. But so was van Zandt, tbh. Still this dude was more distracting with it TheBuilder posted:So it was David Chase that was Ecrole DiMeo? Yes!
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Also was the actor playing the school counselor the same as the doctor leading Uncle Junior's cancer board? That was the only performer on screen I saw in both.
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R. Guyovich posted:congratulations Very disappointed there is zero reaction from Tony to this. He's laughing with Johnny after that! He should be devastated
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TheBuilder posted:Also was the actor playing the school counselor the same as the doctor leading Uncle Junior's cancer board? That was the only performer on screen I saw in both. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051104/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20 Wasn't credited with anything in Sopranos, but dunno. The Silvio voice was pretty annoying. He was the lead in David Chase's previous movie so I guess that's how he landed it.
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i didn't like it much because the new characters were underwritten and the ones we know only had depth because of the dozens of episodes we've already spent with them, the references to show moments felt very "hey, remember????" the female characters were two-dimensional, either harridan shrews or whores, and every plot point is rushed to keep the runtime at two hours. this clearly should have been a miniseries, because nothing feels earned and everything would have been better with more time to marinate.
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Less than the sum of its parts, I think. Michael Gandolfini and Vera Farmiga were great. The Dickie and Harold stuff though, meh. It was like someone wrapped a Sopranos episode in a B- mobster movie. It's very overstuffed too. I wouldn't have thought it before I watched it, but I'd definitely want to see a "Tony Soprano in his 20s" movie if they're gonna make one with the same cast.
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Pretty good if you're a Soprano's fan, I'm betting totally incoherent if you aren't. I'll echo what others are saying, the story would've worked a lot better as a limited series. The whole thing feels like three films, One for Dickie, Tony, and Harold all mashed together with some rather cheap Sopranos callbacks. The Acting by Micheal was totally spot on, I bought him as Tony, Stoll as Junior was also great, and the Actress who played Livia. The people Playing Sil and Paulie were much weaker, you can tell who they are at a glance, but they leaned into their Ticks far too hard. Story Wise I thought casting Liotta as two people was stupid as gently caress on first glance. On reflection though it works pretty well, Dickie desperately trying to justify and make up for his continued awful actions, and his Uncle clearly knowing drat well everything hes done and trying to get him to realize what he's done and what he's doing to his nephew, I think it works.
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I thought it was a solid 7/10 but I did really like the confirmation that Livia wasn't always the complete black hole of negativity we see in the show, the bit where she almost cries at a good memory Tony has of her is pretty solid Also the funniest joke was the confirmation that Silvio's hair is a piece, in-universe as well as out of universe
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Escobarbarian posted:Yeah, this is my biggest issue. The first post about the movie after it came out was a drive-by “lol this sucks” shitpost I'm not writing a multi paragraph review at 4am gently caress off.
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banned from Starbucks posted:I'm not writing a multi paragraph review at 4am gently caress off. It's exactly this kind of behavior that got you banned from Starbucks
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Oct 2, 2021 01:29
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I never thought banned had the makings of a varsity reviewer.
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I need to watch it again, but a few questions maybe you all might have answers for: -Did any actors aside from Michael Imperioli reprise their roles? -Towards the end when Tony gets in that tussle at the phone booth, who was he fighting with? -At the end who pulled the trigger? Harold or someone else, possibly the cop who according to Tony, did whack Dickie.. The screen was kinda dark at the theater I was at so I couldn't quite make it out, if we were supposed to.
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So anyway yeah This movie was a mess. Sil is an ageless vampire caricature. Johnny boy is pretty nonexistent. Every other character is just kinda...there. Vera Farmiga is on ok Livia who half the time seems to be doing more of a Carmella impression, but ok Tony getting with someone like his mother isn't new. Not sure what Chase intended with the Newark riots part because it was barely a backdrop. Same with Dickies relationship with Harold I guess to just throw off the Junior thing? The references were so many and distracting it took me out of the movie. I kept trying to think where in the series each of the 20ish call backs were from and if they were important or not (especially the names). 2 hours and Dickie has like 4 scenes with Tony. We're supposed to question if the prison visits are real or imaginary but...why? Theres nothing there that changes anything if it was all made up. This thing really needed more of the actual Sopranos writers in there to polish this up. Its Things That Kinda Happen: The Movie. banned from Starbucks fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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he was fighting Jackie I believe. I don't think we're supposed to know who the button man was.
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Jose Oquendo posted:I need to watch it again, but a few questions maybe you all might have answers for: no jackie aprile not harold, the killer was clearly white. but even on my hd copy the face was deliberately obscured. could be barry haydu, or someone who became barry haydu through the mob telephone game the same way junior became jilly ruffalo. one of the many odd turns this movie took was to have frank lucas show up for one scene. odd to see a world populated almost entirely by fictional characters have a real historical figure appear, especially when his appearance adds nothing to the story. the gun lucas gives harold wasn't even used, if i remember correctly. harold's whole arc had a lot of wasted potential.
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