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https://twitter.com/bigbriefbluster/status/1443973246018375682?s=21 Hey siri translate “train à grande vitesse” to English
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Oct 2, 2021 12:30
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Observationally however you have no fish, and you have never had any fish, and there isn't any difference between having 5x0 fish, 1x0 fish, and just not having fish. Fishn't.
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Oct 2, 2021 12:32
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Does the EU have something similar to the ADA? How does someone in a wheel chair use that?
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Oct 2, 2021 12:34
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Skwirl posted:Does the EU have something similar to the ADA? How does someone in a wheel chair use that? By not going up the stairs. Trains usually have a space near the end of the carriage that allows access for wheelchairs, cyclists, and pushchairs. Same as on a bus. On that train I would assume they have at least one flat carriage.
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Oct 2, 2021 12:35
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CharlestheHammer posted:This whole derail is a pedants wet dream You mean a bedants wet dream.
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Oct 2, 2021 12:36
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Skwirl posted:Does the EU have something similar to the ADA? How does someone in a wheel chair use that? I can't speak for the EU in particular but generally trains will have at least one specially constructed accessible carriage set up for wheelchair users. That includes a ramp to get on and off the train and construction inside the train car itself to make it accessible to the physically disabled. A quick google turns up this page for a French railway saying much the same thing: https://www.sncf.com/en/passenger-offer/travel-for-everyone/accessibility/on-board-accessibility
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Oct 2, 2021 12:37
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OwlFancier posted:Observationally however you have no fish, and you have never had any fish, and there isn't any difference between having 5x0 fish, 1x0 fish, and just not having fish. Fishn't. alternatively maybe you spent 2 hours getting no fish and then another 2 hours getting 2 fish per hour. 2 * 0 + 2 * 2. mathematical 0 has existed for thousands of years, especially in economic contexts. ancient egyptians were using a symbol for 0 in accounting as early as 1770 BC. I mean of course it hasn't existed for literally all of human history in all contexts but it's been around for an extremely long time and is very evidently useful, especially once money(or even just complex bartering) exist so I don't really understand what your point is aside from pretending that multiplying by zero doesn't correlate to reality which is just demonstrably false
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Oct 2, 2021 12:45
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RE: math talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7QZgH1eP2o
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Oct 2, 2021 12:47
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IronicDongz posted:the difference between spending 5 hours getting 0 fish per hour is actually very noticeable from spending 1 hour getting 0 fish per hour My point is that ignoring the concept of multiplying by zero I think is quite understandable if you don't use maths in your life, because it doesn't really correlate to physical reality. There is no physical process that you can do to physical objects that correlates conceptually to "multiply by zero" (you can just smash stuff up or throw it away but that is more of a conceptual match to subtraction, I think) As I said, addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by other positive, whole numbers are all physically representable, but multiplying by zero is entirely conceptual. So if you have never had cause to use maths since you were in school (as a lot of people do not) then it is a concept that is likely to atrophy and simply not register any more.
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Oct 2, 2021 12:56
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it's fair to say that's it's conceptual and more easily forgotten when out of practice than other common math stuff, but that's not the same as "does not correlate with any real phenomenon" when money is very much real
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Oct 2, 2021 13:00
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IronicDongz posted:the difference between spending 5 hours getting 0 fish per hour is actually very noticeable from spending 1 hour getting 0 fish per hour Math bad
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Oct 2, 2021 13:00
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An inaccuracy of phrasing that I will admit to as I was having trouble communicating the concept.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:01
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OwlFancier posted:As I said, addition, subtraction, multiplication and division by other positive, whole numbers are all physically representable, but multiplying by zero is entirely conceptual.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:01
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Skwirl posted:RE: math talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elueA2rofoo
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Oct 2, 2021 13:02
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Every single one of you nerds needs to get into the toilet stall stat for I will give you a swirlie you will never forget
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Oct 2, 2021 13:10
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Just 5+0 wilted leaves of cabbage in my head
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Oct 2, 2021 13:10
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KozmoNaut posted:Multiplication and division have equal priority, so you go from left to right. I think it's just that Americans are dumb as hell, and also constitute most of internet
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Oct 2, 2021 13:10
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I'm glad I bit. And I was right: both on the math and on Tiggum being Tiggum. 
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Oct 2, 2021 13:14
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99% of the "discussion" both on twitter and SA comes from people being utterly unable to accept that they got gotten by a gotcha and were Wrong. Surely it's just because math inherently makes no sense. Plenty of goons showing their rear end because they forgot the "when in doubt, left to right" rule - which, incidentally, is both a clear instruction AND makes perfect intuitive sense.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:14
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goblin week posted:I think it's just that Americans are dumb as hell, and also constitute most of internet This thread has proven multiple times that, at least among the english speaking world, Americans are not particularly unique in their idiocy. Maybe whatever they use in China instead of twitter is entirely erudite discussions of important matters, but Aussies and Brits and Germans with a decent knowledge of English have all shown an equal ability at being loving stupid as Americans.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:16
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goblin week posted:I think it's just that Americans are dumb as hell, and also constitute most of internet Australians are at least as loving stupid.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:26
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Calling americans stupid while you say "maths" smdh.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:49
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But even if I know the correct, perfectly unambiguous rules, it seems quite likely that whoever wrote it may not. So the only appropriate action is to send the question back and ask for clarification. I'm quite nonplussed about the whole situation.
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Oct 2, 2021 13:52
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OwlFancier posted:Observationally however you have no fish, and you have never had any fish, and there isn't any difference between having 5x0 fish, 1x0 fish, and just not having fish. Fishn't. That's the =0 part of X*0=0
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Oct 2, 2021 13:57
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Calling americans stupid while you say "maths" smdh. American universities don't have a mathematic department. Mathematics is a plural technically, North American English just drops the plural in the abbreviation.
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Oct 2, 2021 14:01
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Nope, it's just the Midwestern way of saying things, like ""He works at Ford's", or "You've got ranch stains on your pajamas".
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Oct 2, 2021 14:12
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Ranch is passé, now it's mustard stains. Ya gotta be armed and ideally pointing your gun at people though.
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Oct 2, 2021 14:18
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gbut posted:Nope, it's just the Midwestern way of saying things, like ""He works at Ford's", or "You've got ranch stains on your pajamas". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVB4etZAlBU
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Oct 2, 2021 14:25
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You put the mustard in the ranch, then dip the pizza in it.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Ranch is passé, now it's mustard stains. Ya gotta be armed and ideally pointing your gun at people though. 
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goblin week posted:I think it's just that Americans are dumb as hell, and also constitute most of internet It's all anglos, actually.
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Oct 2, 2021 14:43
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IronicDongz posted:Both PEMDAS and BEDMAS put division and multiplication on the same level, and then you go from left to right. So it should be PE{MD}{AS} where Braces mean the operations inside have the same priority, or "BMOIHSP".
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Oct 2, 2021 15:15
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OwlFancier posted:Observationally however you have no fish, and you have never had any fish, and there isn't any difference between having 5x0 fish, 1x0 fish, and just not having fish. Fishn't. Queen-Of-Hearts posted:You put the mustard in the ranch, then dip the pizza in it. 
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Oct 2, 2021 15:25
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OwlFancier posted:Would it not be ah-kaah-nay? Yes, it is. It's infuriating. I've had it out with him a few times about him pulling some lovely boomer prejudice out of his rear end, and he usually self corrects if you manage to lay it out for him to see how lovely he's being, but he can be extremely stubborn. The last big blow-up was "well for a lot of people residential schools were good, actually" and it took me, my sister, and my brother in law (who does have some indigenous ancestry) working together to get him to accept that maybe, just maybe, the 1960s story of "these natives can't take care of their children so we're doing them a favour, actually" isn't true.
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On a more lighthearted note, I'm really loving these Twitter idiots claiming that BODMAS didn't exist when they were kids, this is some newfangled math and it's dumb.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:28
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Has anyone said “BODMAS deez nuts”?
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RoboRodent posted:On a more lighthearted note, I'm really loving these Twitter idiots claiming that BODMAS didn't exist when they were kids, this is some newfangled math and it's dumb. I think my whole life has had people going "this math isn't like my math class at 10, therefore it is wrong and dumb" If Kids These Days don't have to learn long division, great, that poo poo sucks and I have not once used it outside of basic arithmetic.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:39
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I think the lesson here is that she should use some loving brackets. And also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRa-7A0BDCc&t=172s
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RoboRodent posted:On a more lighthearted note, I'm really loving these Twitter idiots claiming that BODMAS didn't exist when they were kids, this is some newfangled math and it's dumb. Now remember how we used to do that. Three from two is nine; carry the one, and if you're under 35 or went to a private school you say seven from three is six, but if you're over 35 and went to a public school you say eight from four is six; carry the one so we have 169, but in the new approach, as you know, the important thing is to understand what you're doing rather than to get the right answer,
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