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NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Yeah it's definitely possible, open that box up and carefully inspect the hot wire for any worn insulation. Turn off the breaker and check continuity to ground with the hot wire.

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tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Does it work on any other GFCI? My smoker started clicking on a GFCI and I feel like the element was broken, I just tossed it.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

As a header right above the door opening is far more common. I guess in theory it could still do it's job up under the top plate, but I'm not sure I've ever seen than done in practice, and I can't think of any reason why you would do that.

OK thanks.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

tater_salad posted:

Does it work on any other GFCI? My smoker started clicking on a GFCI and I feel like the element was broken, I just tossed it.

That...is a really good question. I feel like I should try that before anything else. I can just run an extension cord into the kitchen through the back door since all the outdoor and indoor GFCIs are on the same circuit. (Is that normal? Seems to me like the outdoor outlets should be on their own circuit.)

I mean, when I run an extension cord through the kitchen window and to a non-GFCI outlet, it works just fine. That say anything? Now I'm worried about burning my house down :ohdear:


NomNomNom posted:

Yeah it's definitely possible, open that box up and carefully inspect the hot wire for any worn insulation. Turn off the breaker and check continuity to ground with the hot wire.

That'll be the red stick in the hot prong and the black stick in the ground prong, right, with the continuity checker on the multimeter? I still gotta read the manual on this drat thing, I forget what I even got it for.

Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

I can see through time!
Fun Shoe

D34THROW posted:

That'll be the red stick in the hot prong and the black stick in the ground prong, right, with the continuity checker on the multimeter? I still gotta read the manual on this drat thing, I forget what I even got it for.

I'd use the ohms setting and put either lead on the hot and the other one on ground. If it's anything other than the same as when it's not connected at all (usually 'OL' or some other indication that the value is over the range) there's some sort of ground fault. If it's very low (like less than 1k ohm) there's a very bad ground fault. False negatives are still possible with this, though, for a variety of fun physics reasons, so keep in mind it's a way to learn there's definitely a problem not rule out that there's a problem.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


If it's for a small leak to ground the smoker won't trip a regular circuit.

Doea other stuff work okay on the GFCI?

I'd still test both with a multimeter to be sure.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

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Toilet Rascal
On topic, will a 2013 era fridge nuisance trip a GFCI circuit breaker?

Edit: if it matters it'll be a brand new Square D brand GFCI breaker.

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Yeah poking the gfci with a multimeter was my first thought, but checking your smoker using a different gfci is safer and easier.

The real fun would be if your smoker has a ground fault AND the receptacle is also bad.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
There’s no analog telephone thread. What’s this beige multi line connector is called? I think it’s like 20 pairs. I’m tired of having to describe it.



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eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Oct 2, 2021

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

RJ71C?

Edit: Yeah thats a better pic. Certainly looks like it. https://phoneman.com/rj-71c-shorting-plug-only.html

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
Is there a “phone guy lingo” name for it? Everyone I work with calls it a “multi pin phone line connector.”

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

Idk, I've never worked with phone guys. Wiki says "12 line series connection using 50-pin connector (with bridging adapter) ahead of customer equipment. Mostly used for call sequencer equipment. "

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
I called ATT. Their guys call it a “centronics.” It was a weird phone call but now I can sound competent when asking for one.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Other stuff works fine on that outlet, or at least it has, all lower draw stuff. Same procedure with the ohms to check the smoker, one lead on the hot prong, one on the ground?

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Hi, a couple questions about garbage disposals. I'm looking to upgrade my insinkerator 1/2 hp badger 500 as it's quite noisy. price isn't an issue, but I don't need to go overkill either.

When I had my initial one put in, the plumber said I didn't need more than 1/2 hp for my situation. Main use is for coffee grounds and organics (fruit and vegetable peels, scraps, etc.). No meat or anything particularly hard. I'm the only person in my household, which is a recently built (2005) small condo. I'm assuming there's no septic system but I can double check.

I'm thinking either the select or select plus, but I'm not sure if I need 3/4 hp vs. 5/8.

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Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

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D34THROW posted:

Other stuff works fine on that outlet, or at least it has, all lower draw stuff. Same procedure with the ohms to check the smoker, one lead on the hot prong, one on the ground?

Yep! You can also check neutral-to-ground. That should read high too.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

eddiewalker posted:

I called ATT. Their guys call it a “centronics.” It was a weird phone call but now I can sound competent when asking for one.

I was gonna say that looks like something designed by Centronics. Most famous for the parallel port of that style (36 pin for that)

Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

I can see through time!
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As a point of pedantry, Centronics was the company that designed the parallel printer interface using that connector, not the connector itself. Those are more properly called "micro ribbon connectors", but virtually nobody will have any drat clue what you're saying if you ask for that, so "centronics" is probably a better word to use if you want to be understood. Despite this, you will occasionally get rude remarks (and paragraphs beginning with "as a point of pedantry...") from poorly-socialized turbonerds for calling anything that's not a parallel printer interface "centronics".

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
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Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
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actionjackson posted:

Hi, a couple questions about garbage disposals. I'm looking to upgrade my insinkerator 1/2 hp badger 500 as it's quite noisy. price isn't an issue, but I don't need to go overkill either.

When I had my initial one put in, the plumber said I didn't need more than 1/2 hp for my situation. Main use is for coffee grounds and organics (fruit and vegetable peels, scraps, etc.). No meat or anything particularly hard. I'm the only person in my household, which is a recently built (2005) small condo. I'm assuming there's no septic system but I can double check.

I'm thinking either the select or select plus, but I'm not sure if I need 3/4 hp vs. 5/8.

It sounds like your issue isn't power (i.e. you don't need 3/4HP or 5/8, the 1/2 you have right now is fine), but rather noise level. See if you can find a comparison article that specifically addresses noise across a variety of brands, with actual numbers you can compare. Insinkerator has an incentive to push you towards their most expensive models, which is why e.g. they don't actually list the measured decibels their products create, but rather characterize things in vague ways that make the top-end versions look more appealing. But it might be that the top-end one is only 1dB quieter than the regular ones; you have no way of knowing from that grid.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

It sounds like your issue isn't power (i.e. you don't need 3/4HP or 5/8, the 1/2 you have right now is fine), but rather noise level. See if you can find a comparison article that specifically addresses noise across a variety of brands, with actual numbers you can compare. Insinkerator has an incentive to push you towards their most expensive models, which is why e.g. they don't actually list the measured decibels their products create, but rather characterize things in vague ways that make the top-end versions look more appealing. But it might be that the top-end one is only 1dB quieter than the regular ones; you have no way of knowing from that grid.

on their website the quiet series is different, it has five models and is gray instead of red, the red must be the older series. I also read that the excel is 45 db max, and the essential xtr is 65 db max. I'll have to contact them to check all the numbers though. I have a small kitchen, but a 36" sink so I'm liking the compact one, which seems to be a good middle ground based on some videos I looked up. The highest end one would really only be for massive households or people who cook constantly

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D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

Stack Machine posted:

Yep! You can also check neutral-to-ground. That should read high too.

Hot to ground reads low - high is 1.0, that reading was om the order of 0.4 to 0.5. Looks like it's the smoker since there's no change on hot to ground.

'Preciate all the help, goons, thanks!

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Fast dumb question: if my stud finder is telling me a stud is like twice the size of the rest is it likely just a spot with 2 stuck to each other back to back?? Or is there something else I should be watching for? And if it is just two I should probably avoid putting a screw right between them, right?

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Yep that is most likely. Try hammering a tiny nail in seeing if it hits wood. A finish nail won't go into a pipe without considerable effort (use tiny taps).

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

actionjackson posted:

on their website the quiet series is different, it has five models and is gray instead of red, the red must be the older series. I also read that the excel is 45 db max, and the essential xtr is 65 db max. I'll have to contact them to check all the numbers though. I have a small kitchen, but a 36" sink so I'm liking the compact one, which seems to be a good middle ground based on some videos I looked up. The highest end one would really only be for massive households or people who cook constantly

45db max is super quiet, that's quieter than my dishwasher (which I think is 48db? 47db?) Remember that what you are grinding will also affect how loud it sounds. I would suggest if feasible to just dump more of this stuff into the trash, rather than the city sewer. Hard to do if you're using a french press obviously for coffee. Beyond lowering the load on the sewer (and thus, taxes), you also lower the risk of horrifying clogs in your condo.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

H110Hawk posted:

45db max is super quiet, that's quieter than my dishwasher (which I think is 48db? 47db?) Remember that what you are grinding will also affect how loud it sounds. I would suggest if feasible to just dump more of this stuff into the trash, rather than the city sewer. Hard to do if you're using a french press obviously for coffee. Beyond lowering the load on the sewer (and thus, taxes), you also lower the risk of horrifying clogs in your condo.

thanks for mentioning the dishwasher thing, mine is 50 db max and it's insanely quiet, so I think 60-65 would be fine.

my understanding is those things you mentioned are less of an issue for an insinkerator because it doesn't have blades, so everything turns into a pretty fine slurry. you can pretty much put anything in there. the reason why I started doing more of this with things like banana peels (which I cut up into quite a few pieces just to be safe first) is because my building doesn't have organics pickup, because Minneapolis doesn't do waste, recycling, and organics for multi-level buildings (for some reason). So we have to have a private company, which doesn't do organics. If I put them in the trash, especially in the summer, you get endless fruit flies.

spinst
Jul 14, 2012



spinst posted:

I have three of these (manual) lights in my kitchen. They were installed by the previous owner. I have owned the house for a year and a half. They are all controlled by one lightswitch.

Suddenly, none of them are turning on. I checked the breaker and it isn't that.

Any ideas? I have no intelligence in this area.

So after like three days, I absentmindedly hit the kitchen light switch and the lights work again??

How concerned should I be?

Brennanite
Feb 14, 2009
My heat won't turn on. I have a stupid Honeywell thermostat and it always is weird about turning on the heat (never the AC :shrug:), but I can't remember what I did last year to make it work. I can press the fan button and it turns on the fan, so it's seems to be connected. The filter was replaced in June, so that seems unlikely to be so clogged it's blocking air flow.

Just tell me I can fix it without 1) a new furnace and 2) having to go into the root cellar in the dark.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Imbroglio posted:

My new cat led me to a mouse nest under my dishwasher. I noticed the rear end in a top hat mice chewed on the power cable, exposing all three of the inner wires. How much of a poo poo should I give about the wires? Is it gonna burn my house down if the dishwasher leaks? I need to know how much to bother the property manager about it.


Shut off the breaker and treat it as seriously as you would if someone installed a live outlet inside a bathtub and was sitting in the tub setting off fireworks 24/7.

zachol
Feb 13, 2009

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That is some incredibly hosed up poo poo. If that cord leads to a plug (for the dishwasher?), unplug it immediately.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





actionjackson posted:

Hi, a couple questions about garbage disposals.

Just go to Costco and get the one they have. It's nicer than any ISE for way less money.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
The Costco one owns and definitely acts like 1.25 HP.

NoSpoon
Jul 2, 2004

actionjackson posted:

thanks for mentioning the dishwasher thing, mine is 50 db max and it's insanely quiet, so I think 60-65 would be fine.

Remember dB isn’t a linear scale. 60dB is twice as loud as 50dB. 60dB is also 100 times more powerful than 50dB, so a single 60dB unit would sound the same level as 100 50dB units.

If your goal here is quiet, buy the quiet one.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

IOwnCalculus posted:

Just go to Costco and get the one they have. It's nicer than any ISE for way less money.

no

edit: do you guys think everyone on this forum has a costco membership, I'm one person, I don't need to buy 63 eggs or whatever the gently caress

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Oct 3, 2021

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

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actionjackson posted:

I don't need to buy 63 eggs or whatever the gently caress

You don't know that until you need 63 eggs.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Working on setting up a generator on my friend's solar.



There are 10 120-140amp autozone batteries under that wired parallel. Solar comes in from the top right. The batteries are pretty much dead right now. Plan is to fire up the generator (gas Champion brand) and run a charger off it to bump his batteries back up. Just an old 120vac to 12vdc 2/10amp we're going to run off the generator for now, not permanent.

I'm not seeing any quick disconnect for the solar. Do I need to bother unhooking solar leads when I hook up the charger, or can both effectively charge at the same time?


Also the entire panel in the house is fed by that 15amp drop cord leaving the inverter, but that's not the biggest problem right now, just need the batteries up and going. Only 6 120w panels feed them, so setting this generator up to charge is kind of a necessity. I'll make a post with more problems in the crappy construction thread later.

Danhenge
Dec 16, 2005
The quick disconnect requirements are relatively recent, and if it's an unpermitted off grid setup like it sounds, they might just not have bothered.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, unpermitted. Well, legal with the county. Someone signed off on it.

E: Hooked up the battery charger (30~ year old Sears model), earth grounded the generator, let it run for an hour. Started on 2A, worked fine, flipped to 10A, guage on the charger starts swinging, flipped back to 2A and it held fine. His batteries were getting down to 11v flat. Got him up to 12.3v before cutting it off, already back to 11.8v an hour later. That lovely controller or whatever, when cycling through, seemed to indicate 10 amps across all 10 batteries. But who knows because the manual is poorly photocopied chinenglish.

He's getting ahold of a proper solar company this week, but the temporary solution will probably be running the generator regularly to charge the batteries. The solar stuff is in it's own shed, so no real risk of burning down the house.

None of this is his handiwork, we're dealing with previous "be your own contractor" owner bullshit.

Brennanite posted:

My heat won't turn on. I have a stupid Honeywell thermostat and it always is weird about turning on the heat (never the AC :shrug:), but I can't remember what I did last year to make it work. I can press the fan button and it turns on the fan, so it's seems to be connected. The filter was replaced in June, so that seems unlikely to be so clogged it's blocking air flow.

Just tell me I can fix it without 1) a new furnace and 2) having to go into the root cellar in the dark.

Do you have a gas or electric furnace? If it's gas, the pilot light could have gone out, which means going to wherever the furnace is.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Oct 4, 2021

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

does painting a popcorn ceiling change it's acoustic properties?

also why do ceilings have issues (defects etc.) that often require texturing to hide but walls do not (this is probably a really dumb question)?

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

actionjackson posted:

no

edit: do you guys think everyone on this forum has a costco membership, I'm one person, I don't need to buy 63 eggs or whatever the gently caress

You can also buy things from Costco.com without a membership, there’s a 5% surcharge for non-members :)

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eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

actionjackson posted:

also why do ceilings have issues (defects etc.) that often require texturing to hide but walls do not (this is probably a really dumb question)?

It’s more difficult to work up high. Texture can let you skip a lot of time on stilts, ladders or scaffolding.

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