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My parents got their Pfizer boosters on Friday. Felt a little "off" on Saturday, little headaches and kinda lazy. We saw them Sunday and they were perfectly fine. Meanwhile my BiL is probably gonna die of covid, he's been in the ICU for about a week now and things are apparently not going well at all. It's still crazy to me that my 65 year old parents are the ones able to look forward to the future and my 26 year old BiL is hanging on by a thread because of his refusal to get vaccinated or take any precautions at all this entire time.
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hellfaucet posted:Jfc dude, that sucks. My BiL is a huge piece of poo poo who has torn my wife's family apart thanks to his love of Trump. He's also spent the entire pandemic saying it's no big deal, kicking people out of the grocery store he owns for wearing masks, and constantly sharing things about the vaccine killing people and stuff like that. Not really bothered by him loving around for 18 months and finally finding out, but I do feel bad for my sister-in-law dealing with her young husband possibly dying.
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One of the wild things about deaths on 20-50 year old anti-vaxxers/conspiracists is how little impact they have on that community wrt self reflection and a new assessment of the risks. They truly are pointless deaths in every respect.
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A Fancy Hat posted:My BiL is a huge piece of poo poo who has torn my wife's family apart thanks to his love of Trump. He's also spent the entire pandemic saying it's no big deal, kicking people out of the grocery store he owns for wearing masks, and constantly sharing things about the vaccine killing people and stuff like that. Sorry dude. This poo poo is terrible all around.
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I visited the COVID-19 memorial on the National Mall this weekend I mean... these pictures do not even do it justice to just how big this thing is and how many people have died from this (now pretty much completely preventable) disease  (the above is a panoramic view of the whole thing taken from just off the Washington Monument. I don't know if it captures the scale of it but I tried)     700,000+ flags. A lot of them have names, pictures, little notes to the deceased. It's like wandering through Arlington Cemetery with just rows and rows of white flags and inscriptions
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Seth Pecksniff posted:I visited the COVID-19 memorial on the National Mall this weekend Jesus, that is heartbreaking. Just... So much unnecessary death.
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Jeez, how much space is still there to be filled? How much land did the memorial planners think would be needed?
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there's room for about 330 million flags, just in case also, this looks like something my passive aggressive neighbor would do if their lawn care person ever cut too close to a flower bed
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I'm getting my booster this Sunday. I stopped doing stuff over the past month or two due to concerns about waning immunity plus Delta running wild but I'm cautiously optimistic that the combination of getting this booster plus cases going down in my area will make it so that me playing sports again isn't the worst idea ever.
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I have heard there's been damage and long term effects from catching covid (brain/lung etc) but was that just from the body going scorched earth to kill the virus, and not from the virus itself? Curious because I'm moving to northern Alberta soon and while double jabbed (AZ/Moderna) I'm pretty sure I'll eventually get exposed.  e: I'm asking because I'm not sure if you get less or same screwed if you catch it post vax
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Pyrtanis posted:I have heard there's been damage and long term effects from catching covid (brain/lung etc) but was that just from the body going scorched earth to kill the virus, and not from the virus itself? Curious because I'm moving to northern Alberta soon and while double jabbed (AZ/Moderna) I'm pretty sure I'll eventually get exposed. Someone else might have more details but my understanding is that long covid is significantly less prevalent (but not nonexistent) in vaccinated individuals. So you might get long term complications if you catch it, but the odds are a lot lower that you will have those problems than someone who is non vaxxed.
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Fallom posted:One of the wild things about deaths on 20-50 year old anti-vaxxers/conspiracists is how little impact they have on that community wrt self reflection and a new assessment of the risks. They truly are pointless deaths in every respect. It's kind of war of attrition at this point. We're not winning hearts and minds, but... there's less of them now.
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Pyrtanis posted:I have heard there's been damage and long term effects from catching covid (brain/lung etc) but was that just from the body going scorched earth to kill the virus, and not from the virus itself? Curious because I'm moving to northern Alberta soon and while double jabbed (AZ/Moderna) I'm pretty sure I'll eventually get exposed. Little from column A, little from column B. The pathway COVID uses to infect cells causes the immune overreaction that is thought to be one of the causes of long COVID, but there is mounting evidence COVID is pulling an HIV and hiding in different organs long after your infection period is over. In the meantime though, every time you get it you're aging your immune system/organs, making it easier to get even sicker the next time you're infected. They're starting to find heart damage in many asymptomatic cases (small sample but: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916?referringSource=articleShare Try to avoid catching it until there are some good therapeutics on the market. There's no getting used to COVID.
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Sounds like my company might finally be getting around to announcing a vaccine mandate. Chud Network Engineer is still hospitalized for Covid. A married couple (who was working remotely) didn't get vaxxed and now they're dead. WHOOPSIE DOODLE!
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:In the meantime though, every time you get it you're aging your immune system/organs, making it easier to get even sicker the next time you're infected. They're starting to find heart damage in many asymptomatic cases (small sample but: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916?referringSource=articleShare That is definitely scary. Looks like this was limited to about 100 days after diagnosis in the study. Hopefully the damage is not permanent for most people, but only time will tell. One thing about this study is that they seem to have chosen their control group to be specifically people who had no signs of heart damage to begin with, rather than a random cross section of people: quote:Comparisons were made with age-matched and sex-matched control groups of normotensive adults who were taking no cardiac medications, had normal cardiac volumes and function, and had no evidence of scar (healthy controls; n = 50). Comparisons were also made with risk factor–matched patients (n = 57) for age, sex, hypertension, diabetes, smoking, known coronary artery disease, or comorbidities, sourced from the International T1 Multicenter Outcome Study.12 So of course if your control group is a bunch of people who you already know won't have the problems you're screening for, the comparison isn't going to be that interesting. The risk-factor matched control group is more interesting, and either way I assume 60% of the population is not walking around with signs of heart damage, so it's still likely significant regardless of whether the control group selection was iffy. Edit: Then again, 70% of US adults are overweight, with over 40% being obese, so maybe we all just have lovely dying hearts all the time  https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 4, 2021 |
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Bad Purchase posted:there's room for about 330 million flags, just in case I got a chill up my spine when I read this
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https://www.nypost.com/2021/10/04/bridgerton-emmy-winner-marc-pilcher-dead-at-53-of-covid-19/amp/ Make-up person that won an Emmy died of COVID, and may I remind you he was fully vaccinated!!!
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Driftingmouse posted:https://www.nypost.com/2021/10/04/bridgerton-emmy-winner-marc-pilcher-dead-at-53-of-covid-19/amp/ no you may not
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Australia's federal government actually acted proactively for once and bought 300,000 doses of Molnupiravir even though it hasn't been approved yet https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-05/government-buys-merck-covid-antiviral-pill-molnupiravir/100513410
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Lol they're finally loving learning that it's a mild investment into something that may potentially pay substanial dividends
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Little from column A, little from column B. The pathway COVID uses to infect cells causes the immune overreaction that is thought to be one of the causes of long COVID, but there is mounting evidence COVID is pulling an HIV and hiding in different organs long after your infection period is over. Can you link articles for covid hiding in organs and aging immune system/organs? How does aging immune system make it easier to get infected again? (Not arguing, would like to read)
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Driftingmouse posted:https://www.nypost.com/2021/10/04/bridgerton-emmy-winner-marc-pilcher-dead-at-53-of-covid-19/amp/ Chuds gonna be posting this one dudes story in memes for weeks saying ‘See? See?’ and we only have 699,999 examples of non-vaccinated deaths to counter it.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Chuds gonna be posting this one dudes story in memes for weeks saying ‘See? See?’ and we only have 699,999 examples of non-vaccinated deaths to counter it. who cares, gently caress them, just wait em out
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:who cares, gently caress them, just wait em out They're going to crabbucket a whole lots of kids and non-chudly-but-just-confused people while we wait. 
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El Fideo posted:I really don't think this corporation is right for my Dad, I'm going to have him work from home. Does he work as the famous retard masturbator? Well, as they say - like father like son. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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compshateme85 posted:Can you link articles for covid hiding in organs and aging immune system/organs? How does aging immune system make it easier to get infected again? (Not arguing, would like to read) I don't know that it makes it easier to get infected, but if each round does a lil more damage, it definitely makes it harder to fight off and return to health each time. https://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(21)00422-5/fulltext Worse on reinfection https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1444403616954126336 kidney damage (study here: https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/early/2021/08/25/ASN.2021060734) https://www.timesofisrael.com/early-research-shows-even-mild-covid-19-impacts-brain-but-unclear-for-how-long/ Mild COVID's damage to the brain https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03710-0 Lots of T Cells in the brain (more on a similar line here: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/06/signs-of-inflammation-in-brains-of-people-who-died-of-covid-19.html) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.01.21262985v1 Severe COVID speedruns alzheimers https://gut.bmj.com/content/gutjnl/early/2021/06/13/gutjnl-2021-324280.full.pdf Residual COVID 6 months after recovery https://www.jwatch.org/na54014/2021/09/14/covid-19-survivors-1-year-later-suboptimal-health-and 12% of Wuhan survivors still unable to return to work https://www.science.org/content/article/new-ebola-outbreak-likely-sparked-person-infected-5-years-ago Ebola (NOT another coronavirus) reactivates after 5 years I can't find the aging immune study anymore (and I don't have a sub to New Scientist: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0262407921008095?via%3Dihub) Some of this may be proven wrong, some may be proven right. But anyone who tells you, "It's mild from here on out, we've beat it!" is a liar. We won't know the true effects of endemicity for many years to come. But the longer you can avoid catching this, the better your chances of not getting major long term consequences, because this will be the health crisis of our generation, so there are going to be lots more therapeutics in the pipeline. In short: Le vaccin, le vaccin, tojours le vaccin. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Oct 5, 2021 |
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I gotta invest in some dialysis companies
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Ebola (another coronavirus) reactivates after 5 years. Ebola is not a coronavirus. They aren't even in the same phylum.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:https://www.science.org/content/article/new-ebola-outbreak-likely-sparked-person-infected-5-years-ago Ebola (another coronavirus) reactivates after 5 years Ebola is not a coronavirus.  
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The misinformation is coming from inside the thread!
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A man died of a gunshot wound (another coronavirus)
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wilderthanmild posted:Ebola is not a coronavirus. They aren't even in the same phylum. Yup you're right, I'm wrong! Think I swapped them because they both use Remdesivir. And none of this should be taken with any authority from me. I'm not even remotely a scientist. But there are enough smart people (immunologists) who see smoke that I'm willing to take precautions in case of fire. Raskolnikov2089 fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Oct 5, 2021 |
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Platystemon posted:Ebola is not a coronavirus. I think the point still stands that this poo poo is gonna gently caress us up in ways we can’t imagine
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kazil posted:A man died of a gunshot wound (another coronavirus)
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