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Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD
i ordered a chinese automatic litter box for my fat piece of poo poo cats. if it works better than the litter robot I had a long time ago I will defect to the ccp and become a token gwailo

also, what was pol pots deal, and why exactly was china so mad at vietnam all the time. just to spite the soviets?

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Ardennes posted:

Also, yeah those flights look like they are closer to the mainland than Taiwan itself.

I know no one is reading articles beyond the headlines, but PLAAF is flying close to Taiwan-controlled Pratas Island. That's what the blue dot is in those twitter images. They are likely practicing for a strike there and the interruption of supply flights to cut the garrison off. PLAAF forcing ROCAF to fly and fight out there instead of right over the Straits is something they can probably sustain and probably wear the ROCAF out faster.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Scionix posted:

i ordered a chinese automatic litter box for my fat piece of poo poo cats. if it works better than the litter robot I had a long time ago I will defect to the ccp and become a token gwailo

also, what was pol pots deal, and why exactly was china so mad at vietnam all the time. just to spite the soviets?

Gweilo? Look boys its an HK separatist CIA agent, he slipped up, get 'im

Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD

LimburgLimbo posted:

Gweilo? Look boys its an HK separatist CIA agent, he slipped up, get 'im

oh no they’ve found out I dont actually speak chinese hold on let me log into tor real quick

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Scionix posted:

i ordered a chinese automatic litter box for my fat piece of poo poo cats. if it works better than the litter robot I had a long time ago I will defect to the ccp and become a token gwailo

also, what was pol pots deal, and why exactly was china so mad at vietnam all the time. just to spite the soviets?

it wasn't so much a dislike for Vietnam per se so much as their ties with the USSR, yes. As has been pointed out upthread, the Soviets had knit ties with Vietnam, and Afghanistan, and Mongolia, and India, to the extent that China felt that an encirclement was in the works

and the chill in relations between China and the USSR itself had its roots in Khrushchev's anti-Stalinism (which Mao saw as a threat to his own power if that kind of thinking spread to China and was applied to him), the revisionism as it pertained to trying to find peaceful coexistence with capitalism, and the treatment of other communist countries as merely being vassal states of the USSR

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

OhFunny posted:

They are likely practicing for a strike there and the interruption of supply flights to cut the garrison off. PLAAF forcing ROCAF to fly and fight out there instead of right over the Straits is something they can probably sustain and probably wear the ROCAF out faster.

In the case of a suspected shooting war Taiwan is not going to fly out poo poo to save that garrison and will preserve it for defense of the main island.

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


LimburgLimbo posted:

Gweilo? Look boys its an HK separatist CIA agent, he slipped up, get 'im

term most people use these days is waiguoren

Scionix
Oct 17, 2009

hoog emm xDDD

gradenko_2000 posted:

it wasn't so much a dislike for Vietnam per se so much as their ties with the USSR, yes. As has been pointed out upthread, the Soviets had knit ties with Vietnam, and Afghanistan, and Mongolia, and India, to the extent that China felt that an encirclement was in the works

and the chill in relations between China and the USSR itself had its roots in Khrushchev's anti-Stalinism (which Mao saw as a threat to his own power if that kind of thinking spread to China and was applied to him), the revisionism as it pertained to trying to find peaceful coexistence with capitalism, and the treatment of other communist countries as merely being vassal states of the USSR

ty for the writeup. tbh the more I read about
vietnam the more I like them, I should go visit there sometime. never been to southeast asia before

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Laos is the best communist country as reflected in having the best national beer

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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stephenthinkpad posted:

I read an explanation that the US was able to keep the developed world/developing world status quote for 80 years with virtually no country could elevate into the developed club is that US has had a cycle of steps to keep the other countries down. Baaically it goes like this, US went into a country and beat the crap out of it for reasons (see, Iraq), and then US was supposed to "rebuild" it by making the country sign away all her resource rich mines and let the US companies get all the fat contracts to make power plants/extract resource/oil refinery/whatever, which basically would completely control the resource and political system of the country for eternity.

However, this changed since the recent Middle East wars because Chinese companies were able to go in the post war rebuild phrase of the cycle (in Iraq) and has been able to offered more competitive and cheaper service for infrasturture building. This breaks up the US harvesting phrase of the cycle and thus making the US global military empire unsustainable.

I am not that into the detail of infrasturture contracts so I haven't verify it from a different thinktank source yet. However this explanation sound reasonable.

You are overthinking it
China is the guy who pays $3 for milk in the Iraq grocery store
US is the guy who buys a $3000 AR15 to rob the same store for the $3 milk, killing the storekeeper's whole family in the process and saying China is the guy who ripped off the storekeeper afterwards

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
America is incapable of building infrastructure in its own country, let alone anywhere else.

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May 8, 2012

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

America is incapable of building infrastructure in its own country, let alone anywhere else.

The infra will be there eventually as long as we keeping grifting consultants

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
oh no, better make sure the state consultants establish ironclad procurement rules to outwit the consultants working for the local suppliers

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

OhFunny posted:

I know no one is reading articles beyond the headlines, but PLAAF is flying close to Taiwan-controlled

That corner is where the sea become deep and most likely where the US submarines will show up. The Chinese planes are practicing different scenarios against American military.

DPP knows this, they just want to rile up the fear for their next election.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

that's informative, thanks

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

OhFunny posted:

They are likely practicing for a strike there and the interruption of supply flights to cut the garrison off.

That... or simply testing the waters, more or less like what NATO/Russia do all the time. A big problem the US has been having is that the DPP has dropped the polls, and they still need a way to keep fear alive. It is the reason they are running civilian drills even though there is no sign of any serious Chinese movement.

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Granted, another issue the US has is simply that its capitalist class is completely parasitic and eventually that is going to put pressure on state finances. I mean what actually goes on in the US in terms of tax evasion if not direct corporate subsides blows away the Panama/Paradox Papers away.

The US has been able to spend trillions because the US is backstopped as a reserve currency, but at large part of that is because the Chinese has still been buying US bonds. However, as the velocity of US debt increases and with fewer buyers for US debt, the pressure on the USD is only going to increase.

Also, at the same time the Euro is still an issue, while the USD has able to claw some gains back with possible tightening, the ECB can do the same and also, asset bubble in the US is starting to look more unstable.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 10:38 on Oct 5, 2021

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
China is doing those flights becuase of this lol

https://twitter.com/jmsdf_pao_eng/status/1444893961747791880?s=20

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AsiaElects/status/1445008411104403457

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

is this weird? because it seems like an odd thing for the new PM to do immediately

joe football
Dec 22, 2012

indigi posted:

is this weird? because it seems like an odd thing for the new PM to do immediately

Presumably his party is under no threat of winning and it prevents people from saying you have no popular legitimacy when his popularity tanks at some point in the future

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

indigi posted:

is this weird? because it seems like an odd thing for the new PM to do immediately

I read an analysis this is the new PM's first job. He has to do it.

I don't know what the underlying reason is, but most people expected this. Also Kishida is expected to redistribute his cabinet positions to factions that supported him in the party election (a lot of Abe people and a lot of older LDP congressmen).

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003
The House of Representatives term was essentially up; he's dissolving at the end of the current session, seven days before it would have been the second postwar Representatives to sit a maximum term.

Even beyond that, it's not uncommon in Japan for a new PM who wasn't part of a party-consensus planned succession to call snap elections after his appointment in order to make the party or coalition in general bend the knee. From the start of Heisei on, there's been Hashimoto who took power as the LDP's turn during a coalition government and immediately called elections resulting in the LDP improving from 2/3 to 90% of the coalition, and Mori who took power unexpectedly by cabinet vote after Obuchi's death. Meanwhile, those not calling elections after appointment were Suga, Aso, Fukuda, Abe (2006), Koizumi, Obuchi, and Miyazawa, who all had clear majorities among the LDP; Kan, who did in the DPJ; and Hata and Hosokawa who were junior coalition members given the big seat precisely in exchange for not shaking up the coalition.
Noda is the exception, winning the DPJ leadership election in a runoff after no clear majority in the first round, but the DPJ was a dead party walking when he took power with 65% disapproval and a drop from 42% in the 2009 elections to ca. 15% voting intent, so a snap election just would have yeeted him out of power immediately.

E: Current polling suggests that the LDP will improve its position somewhat as the CDP continues to deflate; most other notable parties (Komeito religious right, JCP Eurocommunist left, Ishin populist right) are polling around their results in the previous election. There's no poll room for anything but a center-right LDP-lead government, with them holding their typical mid-40s, so the territory being fought outside of intra-party machinations is whether Kishida can successfully wrangle an absolute majority rather than relying on Komeito/Ishin for support, and whether the center-to-left alliance (CDP, JCP, a few remnants of the collapsed Socialists, and some entries from Reiwa Shinsengumi a new sort of Yang-ish populist leftlib formation around a celebrity-politician) can stop cannibalizing each other enough to knock LDP/Komeito out of supermajority status for constitutional questions.

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

neat, thanks

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Shear Modulus posted:

the entire point of dilbert is that all his coworkers and his boss are all dumb lazy idiots (except for his woman coworker (who is just angry at everything all the time)) while dilbert is a mega genius who's being held back by everyone else

so pretty much the alienation of labor, Durkheim's Theory of Anomie

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/dhume/status/1443581059854061576

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
everything is imperialism

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

4 of them have previously colonized and invaded china

america and netherlands took part in the carving up and colonizing of china

brits in particular flooded china with opium and fought a loving war to keep doing it

japan did a poo poo ton of war crimes and ethnic cleansing

this good guy alliance looking a lot like the bad guys tbh

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

maybe china should be more grateful like india because all that colonialism has made english a worldwide language thus acting as a hedge against han imperialism

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

speaking of which

https://twitter.com/BeijingPalmer/status/1445209099008942080

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/IanRicksecker/status/1445146926576324609

TL; DR - there's a story going around that China was buying up a bunch of "RT-PCR tests" in May 2019, which is getting spun to imply that COVID had been around that early and the Chinese were covering it up

the reality is that "RT-PCR tests" are a broad category of tests, and in this case, the agricultural sector was buying tests for African Swine Flu, since they were trying to control an outbreak of it at the time

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

nope it’s the xp background and icons

its trivially easy to set that background regardless of what OS is being used...

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/IanRicksecker/status/1445146926576324609

TL; DR - there's a story going around that China was buying up a bunch of "RT-PCR tests" in May 2019, which is getting spun to imply that COVID had been around that early and the Chinese were covering it up

the reality is that "RT-PCR tests" are a broad category of tests, and in this case, the agricultural sector was buying tests for African Swine Flu, since they were trying to control an outbreak of it at the time

why would anyone want to have medical supplies on hand just in case theres a medical emergency thats just crazy

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Some Guy TT posted:

why would anyone want to have medical supplies on hand just in case theres a medical emergency thats just crazy

*looks at the amazing shortages just in time manufacturing has given us*

yep

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/DanBoeckner/status/1445179354875629575

Lol klanada

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
lmao is fascist ukraine really reduced to using 70 year old is-3s

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
everyone in ukraine is. when the fighting started every monument in the country was looted because the tanks on them werent disabled in any way, they just drove them up on the monument and left them - some of them even remembered to close the hatches afterwards, too.

the donbass guys were using an IS-3 as a mascot from 2014 to like, 2016 before the government blew it up. theres a bunch of is-3s in ukraine for some reason

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Malleum posted:

everyone in ukraine is. when the fighting started every monument in the country was looted because the tanks on them werent disabled in any way, they just drove them up on the monument and left them - some of them even remembered to close the hatches afterwards, too.

the donbass guys were using an IS-3 as a mascot from 2014 to like, 2016 before the government blew it up. theres a bunch of is-3s in ukraine for some reason

Ukraine was one of the two main tank development centers in the USSR. Iirc after the split they retained the ability to build t62 and t80 and even now field heavily modified versions with a totally separate evolution to the Russian stuff. Presumably alongside the giant Soviet tank factory there is a giant soviet tank stockpile.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008


It's like you haven't heard about our monuments to Nazis

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


canada trying to show they're not a USA lapdog by funding and training their own extranational right wing military psychos



(who am i kidding, the usa is probably funding/training them too)

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Yeah Ukraine retained some industrial capacity from the USSR days

https://www.mei.edu/publications/why-ukraine-secret-weapon-chinas-airpower

But it also lost a lot of it too.

Like how a former factory floor is now just a private parking garage, because people with cars don't feel safe leaving them out on a public street overnight. Also there's no parking space.

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