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Truga posted:please don't spraypaint your pets He means a skunk. Dogs can't leave them alone.
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TheMightyBoops posted:I think it got brought up earlier, but why are they making dubs of all these old series and OVAs, they’re doing a dub for Gun Buster as well, I think it’s cool I can watch them while doing something else if I have a dub, but is there an audience that specifically needs a dub that’s worth the cost of making it?
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Oct 5, 2021 19:27
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This thread is still sleeping on the new Baki, which is full of some extremely metaphorical anti-Americanism.
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Oct 5, 2021 21:48
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i'm usually very tolerant of 'weird' art styles but i cant stand to look at baki
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Oct 5, 2021 21:49
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i'm usually very tolerant of 'weird' art styles but i cant stand to look at baki 
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Oct 5, 2021 21:50
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I'm gonna watch baki all in one go and grow into a huge muscular couch shaped monstrosity.
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Oct 5, 2021 21:58
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TenementFunster posted:oh my god i’m getting so mad at the mere suggestion of dubbing gunbuster
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Oct 5, 2021 22:07
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Pitch posted:Big sister! Ok, now I am mad too.
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Oct 5, 2021 22:09
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Pitch posted:Big sister!
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Oct 5, 2021 22:21
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This thread is still sleeping on the new Baki, which is full of some extremely metaphorical anti-Americanism. That last shot from the final fight is drat good. Baki seems made for anime pacing too cause eps go down smoother than most shounens
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Oct 5, 2021 22:29
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oh my god if they do an english version of Fly High, i’m gonna do the biggest non-actionable parody that minecraft has ever seen, for legal purposes
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Oct 5, 2021 22:30
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I feel like getting mad at the idea of a dub makes you the bad kind of anime fan
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Oct 5, 2021 22:45
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TheMightyBoops posted:I think it got brought up earlier, but why are they making dubs of all these old series and OVAs, they’re doing a dub for Gun Buster as well, I think it’s cool I can watch them while doing something else if I have a dub, but is there an audience that specifically needs a dub that’s worth the cost of making it? I bet it's because having a dub makes the shows much more attractive to Netflix.
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KomradeX posted:I feel like getting mad at the idea of a dub makes you the bad kind of anime fan Noriko Hidaka absolutely rips. it wouldn’t be half the show if it wasn’t for her slaughtering every line and [inarticulate screaming]. Norio Wakamoto chewing the scenery and Rei Sakuma as Kazumi are also fantastic tl;dr subs not dubs, The Lost Otaku will never die
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Oct 5, 2021 23:11
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TenementFunster posted:
It's not 2003 anymore we can move past this
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Oct 5, 2021 23:16
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KomradeX posted:It's not 2003 anymore we can move past this you’re sounding kinda like a Language Anarchist, ngl
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Oct 5, 2021 23:50
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before anyone asks, the only good dub is Angel Cop
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Oct 6, 2021 00:03
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TenementFunster posted:move past what? Gunbuster’s vocal performance is one of the best in the medium, and virtually every dub is an awful kluge. why would you want to watch a classic any other way? We can disagree civilly, no need to compare me to something as childish as an anarchist
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Oct 6, 2021 00:03
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subs suck, dubs suck, just learn the language already, how hard can it be
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Oct 6, 2021 00:03
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Amanda Win Lee et al NGE dub is good.
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Oct 6, 2021 00:04
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KomradeX posted:We can disagree civilly, no need to compare me to something as childish as an anarchist Southpaugh posted:Amanda Win Lee et al NGE dub is good.
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Oct 6, 2021 00:12
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:i'm usually very tolerant of 'weird' art styles but i cant stand to look at baki i ended up really liking it, its pretty idiosyncratic but the guy can draw some great impact and motion which is all im really after
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Oct 6, 2021 00:15
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Big O has a better dub than sub.
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Oct 6, 2021 00:22
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TenementFunster posted:Megumi Hayashibara best voice in the universe
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i'll say it again: Netflix is cowards for not casting my girl Maaya Sakamoto to do the english voice of Mari, too. it worked wonderfully for Mari Iijima and it would have worked in eva too!Truga posted:best voice in the universe e: poo poo that reminds me i got her book in last month and i haven't started it yet!! TenementFunster has issued a correction as of 01:02 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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Oct 6, 2021 00:59
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I'm a dubs or subs moderate, the real enemy is people who release manga-likes read left to right
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Oct 6, 2021 02:13
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I wish they’d put the original dub of Eva on Netflix because I’m sick of having to dig out a  ‘d copy every time I want to watch it. Like I said though I prefer a dub because I can do other stuff and watch stuff passively.
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TheMightyBoops posted:Like I said though I prefer a dub because I can do other stuff and watch stuff passively.
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Oct 6, 2021 02:44
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biggest problem with dubs is that there's a limited number of dub voice actors compared to the original actors so you end up hearing christopher sabat and johnny yong bosch in everything otherwise who gives a poo poo imo
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Oct 6, 2021 03:25
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New season of Scissor 7 just dropped alongside Baki, and it is also cool and good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X8VwQqjTtQ
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I don't have a particular bias against dubs beyond most American productions sounding like caca poopoo, but TenementFunster is going hard in an almost pre-9/11 way.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtI0Aal3C6w
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Oct 6, 2021 04:33
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Casey Finnigan posted:biggest problem with dubs is that there's a limited number of dub voice actors compared to the original actors so you end up hearing christopher sabat and johnny yong bosch in everything
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Oct 6, 2021 05:12
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Casey Finnigan posted:biggest problem with dubs is that there's a limited number of dub voice actors compared to the original actors so you end up hearing christopher sabat and johnny yong bosch in everything also i give a poo poo because i'm an Anime Enthusiast! the Gundam Wing dub isn't bad, based largely on the strength of Campbell Lane's narration. General Septum is at least distinct!
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Oct 6, 2021 08:13
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I’m not entirely opposed to dubbing per se but the specific context of the English dub industry usually makes them bad, and almost always inferior to subs. Sure maybe dubs would be good if they had more than five actors, serviceable dialogue, and actual directing, but they don’t. So there’s like a dozen dubs I actually like tops.
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Oct 6, 2021 08:25
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I generally prefer subbed anime but dubbed games. I dunno where that puts me on the weeb wars scale.
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cormartie's dub is amazing but i seen enough anime where even regular japanese VAs sound like theyre phoning it in at times
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Oct 6, 2021 09:55
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Ibblebibble posted:I generally prefer subbed anime but dubbed games. I dunno where that puts me on the weeb wars scale. Anime gulag, report with toast in your mouth at 0900
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galagazombie posted:I’m not entirely opposed to dubbing per se but the specific context of the English dub industry usually makes them bad, and almost always inferior to subs. Sure maybe dubs would be good if they had more than five actors, serviceable dialogue, and actual directing, but they don’t. So there’s like a dozen dubs I actually like tops. Disney couldn't even do a good dub for their own anime anthology.
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Pitch posted:This is a side effect of the fact that being a dub voice actor in America pays like poo poo and is a less prestigious acting job than local community theater, so the industry rests on a handful of people who have been punching a timeclock doing this for 20 years and a pool of essentially enthusiastic amateurs with a high churn rate. Those are definitely true on the JP side as well. Extremely strong up-or-out pressure and limited agency in one's own fortunes due to a fixed pay scale based entirely on days worked x years of seniority, which is also one of the notable pressures (though not the primary one) producing the stereotypical "every-anime-is-about-teens" situation. An entire industry of for-profit training into minimum-wage-or-worse jobs (this also applies to most other trades that come together to make anime) offered on the logic that, while still extremely demeaning, at least it's not as demeaning for a downwardly-mobile failchild or failure-to-move-upward once-promising burnout as flipping burgers, even if it's not the good industrial or industry-adjacent professional jobs that are never coming back. Works better in Japan for three reasons: - Scale at least bridges some people to clock-punching; more and more roles will be unwilling to consider you when they could get a fresh actor for pennies, but you'll at least be able to ride the gravy train as long as you want if you're lucky enough to land a long term recurring role, and will never face the security wage trap of "sure we'll keep you and you won't have to swap careers, as long as you keep working for entry level pay". - Industry center is Tokyo, where there are a lot more enthusiastic amateurs to choose from, a lot more job options for enthusiastic amateurs who want to try but also want an escape plan, and much more significant crossflow to (for the unlucky or-outs) and from (providing a more-practiced-than-could-be-expected 'amateur' pool) adjacent industries like pop music, musical theater, or announcer/MC than there are in central Texas. - Dubbing best practices and style conventions having been developed and normalized over a solid century of regularly adapting prestige media, rather than 30 years or so of being so much as "what's mostly a non-chain video rental shop can afford to give a couple people 20 hours a week to do this for its side business". US side has gotten far, far better recently, riding heavily on being able to share a work (or worker, depending on your perspective) pool with games that are now big money and want to do their recording in a more happening area. It will still, though, for the purposes of things like Gunbuster, fall prey to the eternal problem of all drama--"sure, you saw it, but did you see so-and-so starring in so-and-so's production?"--that we have records of dating back to the ancient Greeks; even an unquestionably better dub is still a fundamentally different work in particular aspects.
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