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Frankston posted:Disappointed that it's reportedly around 10 hours. Hollow Knight has spoiled me. i'm glad to hear it isn't super long, especially in light of how much hollow knight was padded out with bullshit
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10-12 hours without getting 100% is a very nice length for a Metroid game.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I'm not saying that, I'm saying that calling poo poo like hard bosses and tricky environmental puzzles to solve design flaws in a Metroid game seems a bit off the mark. That Washington Post review saying a big negative is the fact that you can't progress until you figure out what to do or beat an enemy and giving it a 7/10 is just  Like... I don't care about review scores but that's just dumb.
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:i'm glad to hear it isn't super long, especially in light of how much hollow knight was padded out with bullshit Agreed, for me Hollow Knight's length did not do it credit, 10 hours is the ideal length for a 2D platformer for me
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Yeah I think that makes it the longest of the 2D Metroids. As long as there's plenty to explore beyond that I'm happy.
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https://twitter.com/mrsambarlow/status/1445761428900618256?s=21
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Someday Castlevania will be back. You’ll see. You’ll all see!
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SettingSun posted:Someday Castlevania will be back. You’ll see. You’ll all see! it's already back it's just called bloodstained now
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Oct 6, 2021 16:06
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A hollow imitation!
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The genre is called a Metroidstained now, sorry.
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People like Bloodstained, right? Metroidstained Edit: uh poo poo...uh Knightroid
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How about, and I just thought of this, it's totally original... you search for items and there's lots of action, so it's like Search-Action
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Electric Phantasm posted:People like Bloodstained, right? bloodstained rotn was a top-notch castlevania game and we are extremely blessed as gamers to have both it and Metroid Dread in this world. (just don't buy the switch version)
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Oct 6, 2021 16:12
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Bloodstained was fun but some of the abilities you can unlock make the game kind of broken by the end. Plus it's kind of ugly, on top of its anime trash aesthetic. I loved Hollow Knight enough to play through it twice, except for some of the extra challenge BS in the DLC. Is Axiom Verge good? I see a lot of conflicting opinions. I was kind of meh on Ori so I never picked up the sequel.
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Oct 6, 2021 16:15
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Axiom Verge starts good and slowly gets shittier and more tedious
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Oct 6, 2021 16:23
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Axiom Verge is hot trash. One of the few games I stopped playing out of disgust at how bad it was. Star ocean 5 being the other.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:That Washington Post review saying a big negative is the fact that you can't progress until you figure out what to do or beat an enemy and giving it a 7/10 is just Had to go check that review to see if it was actually real. That is probably the stupidest single line I've ever read in a review before. How dare the game require you to play it in order to finish it? Aren't you sick of playing games yet?
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Oct 6, 2021 16:34
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Bloodstained was fun but some of the abilities you can unlock make the game kind of broken by the end. Plus it's kind of ugly, on top of its anime trash aesthetic. Do you also dislike the Castlevania aesthetic too? Castlevania has always been really anime, and Bloodstained is literally a successor. Also definitely pick up the sequel to Ori, the second game is way, way better than the first.
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axiom verge was alright but the soundtrack probably did a lot of heavy lifting in my enjoyment of it
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Overbite posted:Axiom Verge is hot trash. One of the few games I stopped playing out of disgust at how bad it was. Star ocean 5 being the other. I finished SO5 but Axiom Verge was to boring for me.
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Electric Phantasm posted:People like Bloodstained, right? Augus posted:bloodstained rotn was a top-notch castlevania game and we are extremely blessed as gamers to have both it and Metroid Dread in this world. (just don't buy the switch version) Evil Kit posted:Do you also dislike the Castlevania aesthetic too? Castlevania has always been really anime, and Bloodstained is literally a successor.  c-c-c-c-combo breaker Assepoester fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Oct 6, 2021 |
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Oct 6, 2021 16:41
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Evil Kit posted:Do you also dislike the Castlevania aesthetic too? Castlevania has always been really anime, and Bloodstained is literally a successor. SOTN is great and I enjoyed some of the GBA ones back in the day. I guess I'm mostly rolling my eyes at how sexualized Bloodstained's character designs are. Plus I also like sprites more than 3D renders for 2D games.
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The United States posted:Bloodroid I hear they make a topical cream for that
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Didn't Axiom Verge 2 come out already? Did it turn out any better?
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Oct 6, 2021 16:48
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Bloodstained is very good but very ugly, from top to bottom
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axiom verge 2 is very good & in some ways much better than the first, it's a much more distinct thing than just the metroid-aping original bloodstained is pretty mediocre - combat feels bad, progression is extremely linear without much real exploration, ugly graphical style
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Omnomnomnivore posted:SOTN is great and I enjoyed some of the GBA ones back in the day. I guess I'm mostly rolling my eyes at how sexualized Bloodstained's character designs are. Plus I also like sprites more than 3D renders for 2D games. I do think it's no more sexualized than some of the Castlevania monster/character designs from GBA days but that's coming from memories of a long time ago so grain of salt etc. Bloodstained was fun and I got a lot of time out of it, but I totally get having some problems with it.
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RBA Starblade posted:Bloodstained is very good but very ugly, from top to bottom the character models are pretty chunky but the backgrounds are very nice imo
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Axiom Verge 1 and 2 are both aesthetic t-rexes on the proverbial video game food chain, but they have some big faults. The stories are rather incoherent, and I don't know if there is a single good boss fight among both of them combined.
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Oct 6, 2021 16:55
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This, tbh.
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Glad this game looks to be really good. Also on the Bloodstained chat - I also thought a lot of it was pretty ugly. Backgrounds are generally pretty good but the 3-d modelled characters (for the most part) weren't that appealing to me. I did love the 2-d prequels though, those were amazing.
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On one hand through retailer shenanigans I'm getting the game for almost 20€ less which is cool but on the other hand they refuse to deliver poo poo ahead of the release so I'm not getting the game till Monday which sucks cause I wanna play it already 
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Axiom Verge 2 was loving poo poo and I need a game that has perfected the metroidvania formula to cleanse my palate.
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Frankston posted:Axiom Verge 2 was loving poo poo and I need a game that has perfected the metroidvania formula to cleanse my palate. Guacamelee came out years ago though.
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axiom verge 1 is good, axiom verge 2 is goodAugus posted:axiom verge was alright but the soundtrack probably did a lot of heavy lifting in my enjoyment of it not just the music alone but the mood it sets for each area and also when it interacts with the gameplay is great, it really nailed an atmosphere in a way most games don't even try to BabyRyoga posted:Axiom Verge 1 and 2 are both aesthetic t-rexes on the proverbial video game food chain, but they have some big faults. The stories are rather incoherent, and I don't know if there is a single good boss fight among both of them combined. several of the boss fights in 1 are fun and make creative use of the abilities, 2 only really has one boss though and it kinda stinks stev posted:Guacamelee came out years ago though. way too many games in this style are melee-based these days and that saddens me, sometimes you just wanna shoot the hostile wildlife of an alien planet
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stev posted:Guacamelee came out years ago though. More like Guacamemelee lol
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Both Axiom Verge games are actually good you silly fools.
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Axiom Verge is weird in that the first is mostly Metroid and the sequel is instead very 'Vania, right down to being melee and magic (hacking) based
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