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The solution Marvel has reached is that they do not need more Spider-Man books with a unique identity as much as a more frequently released core Spider-Man book, but I realize "need" here probably means personal desires and not editorial requirements. In that case just cancel all Spider-books, you cowards.
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I mean they are still releasing non stop Spider-Man so it’s not like they are abandoning satellite titles
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Oct 1, 2021 12:32
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean they are still releasing non stop Spider-Man so it’s not like they are abandoning satellite titles Actually this week was the last issue. It's getting a relaunch under a different title at some point though.
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Oct 1, 2021 12:59
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Bring back Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane with Gurihiru, you cowards
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Oct 1, 2021 13:10
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X-O posted:Actually this week was the last issue. It's getting a relaunch under a different title at some point though. I think the new title is, Savage Spider-man?
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Oct 1, 2021 13:17
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X-O posted:Actually this week was the last issue. It's getting a relaunch under a different title at some point though. Oh I read the synopsis and they said that wasn’t the last issue so that’s probably what they meant. That plus they have been flooding Spider man with mini series over the last two years as well
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Oct 1, 2021 13:18
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Marvel definitely puts out a lot of Spider-Man books outside of the core book, and while most of them are either Spider-Man Family books (Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman, Silk, Web Warriors, Ben Reilly, etc) there have been a number of "satellite" Peter Parker books, but all of them in the past decade or so at least started with a clear "Chip Zdarsky is doing a Spider-Man book" "Tom Taylor is doing a Spider-Man book" "Joe Kelly is doing a Spider-Man book" with a natural endpoint of when that person stops writing it, with the exception of a weird tacked-on Spidergeddon arc. And I guess Spider-Man/Deadpool lurched on for another year or so with try-out/fill-in one-shots after Kelly/McGuinness finished? It's not that they refuse to make them, but it's a different model than the 1970s through the mid-2000s (including the period Priest/Owsley describes when he was editing the books) where it was basically "we have [three/four/five] ongoing Spider-Man books, we'd better figure out SOMETHING to put into all of them every single month with no gaps, also try to make them all seem different".
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Oct 1, 2021 13:20
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X-O posted:Actually this week was the last issue. It's getting a relaunch under a different title at some point though. That's blatant false advertising! Gologle posted:Bring back Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane with Gurihiru, you cowards I mean they're already turning it into one of the Infinite comics so maybe they're priming readers for its return? Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Oct 1, 2021 |
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Oct 1, 2021 14:06
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Rick posted:I'd like to see a professional writer with actual good ideas take on him living in Hollywood while MJ works on her movie career or whatever. I know New York is allegedly central to Spider-Man's character but that is context I'd like to see him out of. We had Amazing Mary-Jane and it was good. I miss it. I genuinely wish the market would bear Spider-family stuff. Karma Tornado posted:Saviuk is a really good classic style Spider-Man guy, he ended up doing the newspaper strip for fifteen years Sal Buscema on Spectacular was another artist who I did not appreciate at the time because I was reading them alongside McFarlane and Larsen who were 'cool' (and who I have since cooled on) but is really, really good. The days when somebody would draw a comic for eight years - and he drew the Hulk for a decade - are gone and I kinda regret that. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Oct 1, 2021 |
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Oct 1, 2021 15:18
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Dawgstar posted:Sal Buscema on Spectacular was another artist who I did not appreciate at the time because I was reading them alongside McFarlane and Larsen who were 'cool' (and who I have seen cooled on) but is really, really good. The days when somebody would draw a comic for eight years - and he drew the Hulk for a decade - are gone and I kinda regret that. Same. Back when I was reading the Clone Saga stuff I always dreaded Spectacular coming out as I hated Sal's art. Looking back I don't know what I was thinking, but teenagers are weird.
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Oct 1, 2021 15:35
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Dawgstar posted:We had Amazing Mary-Jane and it was good. I miss it. I genuinely wish the market would bear Spider-family stuff. He and Bill Mantlo had an over 5 year run together on Incredible Hulk and you just don’t see that at all anymore Sal’s Spectacular 8 year run was so great. I was a little of the same at the time, loving McFarlane and Larsen doing all weird lines and angles, and looking at SSM as the “old man” book. His work was always under-appreciated, and when you look back now it seems more dynamic than anyone else’s. The “Buscema Punch” was always a thrill for me to see - he drew dynamic scenes and you NEVER had to guess as to what the scene was saying. McFarlane was style and Saviuk was substance - Sal was both.
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Oct 1, 2021 17:10
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Gologle posted:Bring back Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane with Gurihiru, you cowards It's a new infinity comic on Marvel Unlimited.
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Oct 1, 2021 18:18
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Skwirl posted:It's a new infinity comic on Marvel Unlimited. It's not new, last I looked. It's just the old series being put out there.
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Oct 2, 2021 07:18
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X-O posted:Actually this week was the last issue. It's getting a relaunch under a different title at some point though. Yvonmukluk posted:That's blatant false advertising! Well, the final issue of Non-Stop Spider-Man involves him finally having to stop because he has nowhere to go for a hot minute, so I guess they couldn't really keep calling it that.
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Oct 3, 2021 21:23
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Isn't the Ewing/Ram V Venom book starting this month? Really looking forward to that and wondering how horror-y it's going to go with a writing team like that
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Oct 6, 2021 18:31
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I liked the first issue of Spider-Man Beyond! It was a nice detail to use the Spencer title page at the start and bookended with the one for the run going forward to reflect the transition from Peter to Ben as main character. Also I liked MJ having pattern recognition that whenever Ben shows up it tends to be bad news (even if it's not his fault). I'm a little put out Peter doesn't recall the Byond Corporation from his Mighty Avengers says, but that's a minor quibble.
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Oct 6, 2021 19:03
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Forgot to say earlier but thanks to whoever mentioned the Marvel/Method podcast earlier in the thread, I've listened through the backlog over the last couple of weeks while doing housework. Meth's enthusiasm for Marvel was readily apparent and he really did his homework on the celebrity and industry guests. Just hugely positive listening, hoping for a second season!
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I mean now it’s pretty obvious why Ben is going to be spider man for the immediate future and it’s insanely easy to undo
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Oct 6, 2021 20:36
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Gologle posted:How we feeling about Defenders? I liked the first issue, is there a second?
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Oct 6, 2021 22:31
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A second and a third even. It's pretty cool.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:52
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I love Ewing’s clear love for the King, and this is EXTREMELY Kirby.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:58
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howe_sam posted:A second and a third even. It's pretty cool. God damned my comic book guy is bad at pulling issues I tell him to pull.
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Oct 6, 2021 23:19
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Defenders is looking to be a great follow up to Ultimates.
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Cartridgeblowers posted:Defenders is looking to be a great follow up to Ultimates. It really is. I'm constantly amazed at how good Ewing is at establishing characterization through banter between teammates. Taaia's only been around for two chapters and she's already one of my favourite things going.
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Despite knowing bugger all about the Eternals until this series, I really liked the opener to the new arc with an increasingly affronted Ajak getting mad at the Avengers over their new choice of hang out, plus the flashback fight one million years earlier. Gillen Gillens while Kei Zama has a blast on art. Good stuff.
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Skwirl posted:I liked the first issue, is there a second? If there wasn't it would be called Defender.
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Sentinel Red posted:Despite knowing bugger all about the Eternals until this series, I really liked the opener to the new arc with an increasingly affronted Ajak getting mad at the Avengers over their new choice of hang out, plus the flashback fight one million years earlier. Gillen Gillens while Kei Zama has a blast on art. I also just got caught up the full Eternals run (I fell off after the second issue and then to my surprise over a year had suddenly passed) and I've got to say this is prime Gillen so far. Ribic's art really helps, but he's more efficient and less indulgent with his prose than he can be elsewhere (even if he does occassionally just give himself a page of nothing but words to exposit with) and the world-building he's done with the Eternals and Celestials is really fun. The celestial politicking is really enjoyable. Thanos Rising seems to have fully retconned Mentor's origin story (and death? I think he died a few years ago, I can't remember) to fit with the new status quo, so I imagine Eros is going to get similar treatment sooner or later.
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Nilbop posted:So I've no interest in slogging through Spencer's enormous run given that every time I dipped my toe in it was just awful, but would anyone be willing to break down what he ended up changing? I’m so confused I thought when it started everyone was praising Spencer’s run. I even read the first 6 issues and found it to be pretty good!
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Noob Saibot posted:I’m so confused I thought when it started everyone was praising Spencer’s run. I even read the first 6 issues and found it to be pretty good! People were just ready for anyone other than Slott. It’s also pretty funny reading all the hype about Spencer’s run and how it was going to focus on the happy and funny side of Spidey when it ended like it did
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Noob Saibot posted:I’m so confused I thought when it started everyone was praising Spencer’s run. I even read the first 6 issues and found it to be pretty good! Well, the ran began with fairly light, high-concept stories (oh no! Peter split himself into two guys with a ray gun!) and a focus on Peter's social life, especially a well received subplot where he took on the supervillain Boomerang as a room-mate. By the end of the run the stories had become bogged down by a VERY long-running and incrementally developed story about a mysterious villain, Kindred, whose design and concept were not especially popular from the get-go, and who, iirc, lost whatever goon goodwill he started with rapidly as the arc plodded on. Kindred's gimmick, as well as the gimmicks of a number of intervening arcs, also shifted from the goofy, sitcomy notes of the beginning of the run to DeMatteis sturm und drang about the Many Unforgiven Sins of Peter Parker and so on. By the end, it was clear that the story that many fans thought was being set-up for a retcon (Peter and MJ's marriage being sold to the devil) was NOT going to be retconned, and instead Spencer wrote an imposingly baroque DIFFERENT retcon about a handful of largely forgotten Osborn-adjacent subplots, by which point I feel like many BSS posters were done with the whole thing. A caveat-- this is pieced together from conversations here and elsewhere since I stopped reading it fairly early on. But to make a long-story short-- his run ended on a much different tone than the one with which it started, which moved it fairly far afield of the comedic, slice of life-y angle that accounted for its initially warm reception.
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It's true. Whomever wished for Dan Slott to be replaced on Spidey did so on a monkey's paw.
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I knew replacing Slott with Spencer was a loving monkey paw wish from the get go and I kinda feel either I said it or someone else did and I agreed.
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Dawgstar posted:It's true. Whomever wished for Dan Slott to be replaced on Spidey did so on a monkey's paw. I still say as a whole I'd rather read Spencer's than Slott but yeah that last arc really left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Speaking of the Spidered Man, and I realise this might be premature, but who do people think is coming on after Beyond? I'm fairly certain given we've got issue #900 and the 60th anniversary next year, a new #1 is an inevitability, right? I'm kind of hoping Ewing.
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Ewing would be great. Zdarsky would be wonderful as well.
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Aren’t they going to be doing rotating creative teams with a every other week shipping schedule or something with Zeb Wells as the lead writer?
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Open Marriage Night posted:Aren’t they going to be doing rotating creative teams with a every other week shipping schedule or something with Zeb Wells as the lead writer? I think they're going literally weekly, but I could be wrong.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Aren’t they going to be doing rotating creative teams with a every other week shipping schedule or something with Zeb Wells as the lead writer? Yes, that's Spider-Man Beyond. I seem to recall hearing that it was ending like 7 issues before 900, which would obviously line up perfectly for a new writer to come in and do the 900th issue arc, but I can't find any corroboration on that. I was asking who people think might be coming in and taking the reins.
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