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Don Montoya was part of the Black T-Shirt Squad with Quack and Reckless Youth, so maybe him? Mitch Ryder too, as he broke in around 1990 and I don't think he got anywhere bigger than Chikara.
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MassRafTer posted:Mike Modest would definitely be one of those guys, right down to a couple of cups of coffee. Modest definitely is a guy who if he came around in the past decade would of had a big run in New Japan as a foreign Junior. NOAH probably could of done more with him but they also seemed...reluctant to push foreign talent when they started
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Deathlove posted:Quack, for sure. Quack really wasn't a big deal at all in the 90s. I didn't really realize the extent he went to make himself look like a bigger deal than he was pre-CHIKARA until a few years ago. It makes Headquarters much funnier in retrospect. That said, getting people on the BBs to talk about him worked out pretty well in the long run! Edit: It's kind of funny in retrospect how much of Quack and CHIKARA was astroturfed. Some of it is just basic wrestling stuff like drastically overreporting iPPV numbers but some of it is really funny like getting CHIKARA guys added to the PWI 500. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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I remember Quack even wrote that book explaining different kind of finishers for the Apter stuff.
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Dawgstar posted:I remember Quack even wrote that book explaining different kind of finishers for the Apter stuff. Well I mean, look, if there's one thing he knows it's all the goddamned moves
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Modest definitely is a guy who if he came around in the past decade would of had a big run in New Japan as a foreign Junior. NOAH probably could of done more with him but they also seemed...reluctant to push foreign talent when they started he would be a heavyweight by the modern standards of new japan. even in noah the gimmick was that they seemed too big to be juniors, and i remember how much kenta and marufuji dwarfed ibushi in the differ cup. Spermgod fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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Steve Corino and Chris Daniels, do they count?
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algebra testes posted:Steve Corino and Chris Daniels, do they count? I mean, Corino was consistently on ECW TV and was their world champion for a couple months so I'd say no. I know ECW was a distant 3rd by this point but they were still on network TV for the time being (pretty sure Steve lost it by the time TNN told ECW to gently caress off) as well as running PPV.
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Are the Spanish/French/non-English language commentators for WWE forced to use the same corporate spiel/vocabulary as the English ones?
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CobiWann posted:Are the Spanish/French/non-English language commentators for WWE forced to use the same corporate spiel/vocabulary as the English ones? I thought the joke was Vince doesn't speak spanish and they're just there getting themselves over and goofing off. At least, I think that's what Konan said a few years back.
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CobiWann posted:Are the Spanish/French/non-English language commentators for WWE forced to use the same corporate spiel/vocabulary as the English ones? They get sheets with banned terms and such but they aren't closely monitored.
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So Jericho has written multiple books and has a long-running podcast, has he ever explained whose idea it was to have the torture porn scene with Chyna during their feud? But then people cheer for him anyway. What a disaster. Then again, I remember people cheering for Eddie cheating on Chyna. Maybe it was just the crowd.
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Is Brandon, Manitoba the smallest city to host Raw? They taped there in 1995 and the population would be about 38k back then.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Is Brandon, Manitoba the smallest city to host Raw? They taped there in 1995 and the population would be about 38k back then. I think they did some smaller northeast areas
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the town the Mohegan Sun is in has a population of like nineteen thousand, if that counts
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It really depends on exactly how you define the parameters of the question. Do you only count the specific municipality where the show is held, or do you count the larger region? Just as an example, East Rutherford, NJ has a population of less than 9k, but it’s part of the much larger New York metro area, and has had tons of WWE shows over the years between the old Continental Arena/Izod Center and more recently MetLife Stadium.
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Not WWE, but WCW did a Nitro in Salem, VA in 1995. The population would have been under 25,000 then.
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Two 1993 RAWs were from Alexandria Bay, NY. Population at the time would have been under 1200.
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Diabolik900 posted:It really depends on exactly how you define the parameters of the question. Do you only count the specific municipality where the show is held, or do you count the larger region? Edit: ^^that is probably the smallest market Larger region would probably be the best way to look at it. Brandon only has small towns to draw from outside of the city itself.
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Those early 90s RAWs right after Hogan left were dire. A lot of them looked like they were held in high school gyms.
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They were. Now that you mention it, in 1993 they held a Raw at a Poconos resort in a tiny unincorporated town in Pike County, PA.
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disaster pastor posted:Two 1993 RAWs were from Alexandria Bay, NY. Population at the time would have been under 1200. Still kind of baffles me that they did this. The closest metropolitan area is, uh, Watertown. Was it in winter? Maybe Vince was involved in cross-border smuggling. That, or he was a big fan of The Hip but couldn't get across the border to Kingston.
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theyll be back to running high school gyms again by 2024
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Spermgod posted:theyll be back to running high school gyms again by 2024 There's a Velveteen Dream joke there somewhere.
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Halloween Jack posted:Not WWE, but WCW did a Nitro in Salem, VA in 1995. The population would have been under 25,000 then. WCW also did a Nitro from South Padre Island. Considering it was spring break, numbers were considerably skewed. Normally it would have had a population of around 2,000 at that time.
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TVGM posted:Are there any matches with 2 refs on the pretense that it'll somehow prevent cheating? I've got some memory of there being both a Raw and Smackdown referee in the ring at once for inter-brand matches at Survivor Series or Bragging Rights or something as a mechanism to check each ref's bias. Or, the double ring double singles match from DDT Peter Pan this year that devolved into a 6-man tag with a referee fighting on each side while the GM put on the ref shirt
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lucha libre trios always had 2 referees until fairly recently
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TVGM posted:Are there any matches with 2 refs on the pretense that it'll somehow prevent cheating? Third fall of a Freebirds vs von Erich's match. Even has the first ref ask for some help.
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TVGM posted:Are there any matches with 2 refs on the pretense that it'll somehow prevent cheating?
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I could've sworn that Blood & Guts had two refs (Aubrey and someone else). Yeah there was a ref on both sides of the cage I'm fairly sure.
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WCCW had two refs in their double-ring matches.
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Kenny Omega vs Rich Swann had both Aubrey and Brian Hebner reffing.
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Do "enforcers" count? They seem to have refereeing powers.
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TVGM posted:Are there any matches with 2 refs on the pretense that it'll somehow prevent cheating? Shane McMahon and Bryan Danielson were co-refs at Clash of Champions a few years ago.
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TVGM posted:Are there any matches with 2 refs on the pretense that it'll somehow prevent cheating? There was a match in Chikara between Mike Quackenbush and Max Smashmaster where for some reason they had two refs: Bryce Remsberg and Max's manager Sydney Bakabella. It ended with a fun subversion of the "face has the match won but drops everything to get in his opponent's manager's face" trope. Bryce got knocked out so only Bakabella was active and certainly wasn't going to count any pin attempts for Quack. Quack locked Max in a submission hold and Bakabella refused to acknowledge it. Rather than let go, yell at Bakabella and get ambushed, Quack just cinched the move on more to the point that Max was screaming for Bakabella to end the match. It wasn't until Max was yelling at the timekeeper to ring the bell that it finally ended.
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In 2009 ROH brought in Flair and used him as the outside the ring ref to make sure no shenanigans happened during a title match in New York. Except Flair freaked out that the show was being filmed for DVD, claimed Cary double crossed him and that it was a TV shoot, cut a promo putting over the company and left through the back door. Flair owes Cary like 40K for appearances he subsequently no-showed.
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MassRafTer posted:In 2009 ROH brought in Flair and used him as the outside the ring ref to make sure no shenanigans happened during a title match in New York. $33,000 according to cabana from last month's wrestling anonymous podcast
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What are some really good wrestling shoot interviews, be they from Highspots or wherever?
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