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Love Stole the Day posted:I read in a blog post recently that the easiest strategy to retire at 40 is to join a few almost-ready-to-IPO companies and sell the equity eventually. By that logic (not that I'd know from experience) A sounds good but if you really believe that B will IPO after a year then hopefully A will still respond to your job application if it doesn't actually happen anyway. The easiest strategy to retire at 40 is to get a high paying tech job with liquid stock and save a reasonable amount. You might make more by joining a company on the verge of IPO, but your also taking a risk that there is a liquidity event within your timeframe and the stock increases in value.
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I flagged a Glassdoor review because the job title didn't exist and they declined to remove it lol
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Oct 7, 2021 05:39
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i believe the phrase "if you're not paying you're not the customer you're the product" had a basically specific genesis in one specific post on metafilter by bluebeetle like a decade ago. but it applies to glassdoor and it applies hard
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Oct 7, 2021 06:36
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bob dobbs is dead posted:spans 3 orders of magnitude ime. 6 hours to 5 months This is my experience. I had a recruiter reach out to me, balk at my base/TC #'s to get me interested in a move, but submit me to the role anyway. 2 months later they sent me a rejection letter, and I'm going, "uh, you called me..."
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Oct 7, 2021 16:23
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Applying through a website is such a waste of time. I've burned out of the application process so many times in the past. This time I optimized for connecting with recruiters and I got initial interviews with 32 different companies without a single application. All but a few were scheduled within days of the initial contact.
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Oct 7, 2021 17:21
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sim posted:This time I optimized for connecting with recruiters and I got initial interviews with 32 different companies without a single application. All but a few were scheduled within days of the initial contact. Can you go into more details about this? Most of the recruiters I've contacted often tell me to submit an application on the website anyway.
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Armauk posted:Can you go into more details about this? Most of the recruiters I've contacted often tell me to submit an application on the website anyway. Yeah I had a couple that asked for that, but by and large I just gave my resume to the recruiter and they handled the rest. I followed this guy's advice: https://egghead.io/talks/egghead-how-social-media-can-land-you-your-dream-job. Note that I do have 12 years of experience with frontend dev, so your mileage may vary depending on how hot the market is for your particular skillset. My LinkedIn was already detailed and up to date and I already had over 500 connections. However updating my photo, header image, title, and then turning on "looking for work" just opened the floodgates. I can't remember if it was in that video, but I heard that responding quickly to every message also helps boost your profile in LinkedIn searches, so I made sure to do that, even if I was just declining them. If it was an external recruiter and I hadn't heard of the company, I responded with my list of criteria: remote-forever, $xxx base salary, 401K, etc. That filtered out a lot of bad jobs/recruiters. It really started to snowball once I started interviewing. I was able to be more strict about filtering and for anything I was interested in, I let the recruiter know that I was already interviewing with multiple companies and looking to make a decision within the next two weeks. That sped up the process and I was able to get interviews booked immediately.
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^ yep 100% this Also, pick a specialty and "SEO optimize" your LinkedIn profile. If you want an SRE position you drat better well have python, go, kubetnetes and prometheus on there. If you are a backend dev, C++, java python postgres, redis, maybe even rust. Front end... Uhh, angular, react, node? If you go look at the stack exchange most popular languages rankings that should give you an idea of what people will be hiring for soon If your profile mostly just lists ruby and a bunch of other 2012 era technologies (nagios, ansible, mysql, memcache) you might consider a full makeover, hardly anyone is optimizing for that. I haven't interviewed anyone with php or perl on their resume in years and years
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Oct 7, 2021 19:54
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Hadlock posted:^ yep 100% this Ruby's niche, but if you have it you're a god amongst code school grads.
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Oct 7, 2021 21:45
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kayakyakr posted:Ruby's niche, but if you have it you're a god amongst code school grads. lol this is true downside is you're probably working in a rails shop with all that entails
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kayakyakr posted:Ruby's niche, but if you have it you're a god amongst code school grads. ... Is that gonna make me more money than a Google job? Ruby is my favorite among any language I've worked with.
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 I like Ruby’s expressiveness and it’s my go-to tool for scripting and sketching. With this new job though I’m gonna be working in Real Non-P-Langs so maybe I’ll find a new home.it could be clojure 
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ima tell you writin clojure all day erry day for close to a year now, that the fuckin stack traces just remain continually poo poo everything else has been great tho
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Oct 8, 2021 04:40
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i didn't know google used clojure
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Oct 8, 2021 05:06
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My last rejection was because I came across as being very jaded (despite personally working very hard to be upbeat) so I think I'm putting my job search on ice and legitimately considering therapy because I think that's a level of strange that's outside of my own self control.
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Oct 8, 2021 07:07
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Achmed Jones posted:i didn't know google used clojure it's only a matter of time before google clojures all it's apps
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Oct 8, 2021 07:49
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ruby /is/ having a bit of a renaissance with the work done via shopify and stripe to dramatically improve the tooling around the language. chris seatons work in the community is also a singular boon and we should expect material advances in runtime perf through his work. i don’t think it’d be unreasonable to bet that ruby becomes more mainstream and python becomes more niche as time goes on, which would’ve been an awful bet even a few years ago.
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Oct 8, 2021 07:55
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What are some deficiencies in Python culture there that would cause it to lose ground? I am curious for the sake of understanding my blind spots.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:What are some deficiencies in Python culture there that would cause it to lose ground? I am curious for the sake of understanding my blind spots. truffleruby has had its gil whacked not much else that ruby has that python doesnt
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FamDav posted:i don’t think it’d be unreasonable to bet that ruby becomes more mainstream and python becomes more niche as time goes on, which would’ve been an awful bet even a few years ago. Can you go into more detail on this I haven't heard much about Ruby since about v2.3 and we were only just starting to roll out rails 5 apps when I left that shop in...2016? Looks like Ruby 3.1 is coming out before year end, and they're on to Rails 6 already
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Midwest oldie here, and I can't recall the last time I've seen Ruby on a resume (maybe 2018?), and it's challenging to find someone that doesn't have Python in their toolkit in 2021. That goes for oldies and all the intern/recruiting events I'm part of. I'd be shocked if Ruby/Python switched roles, but crazier things have happened. Unrelated, I'm having the "I've flipped my bit and am making a change - let's discuss if that means I stay here or go" talk with my director today. Wish me luck. luchadornado fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Hadlock posted:Can you go into more detail on this Ruby 3.1 and Rails 7 both come out this year. They had a big push to speed up MRI for Ruby 3. They did pretty good. Rails apps gained 20% and non-rails gained something like 50-100%. Here's the reason for the switch in Ruby vs Python: Ruby was the language of choice for startups back the 2000's and early 2010's. What are those startups doing now? Well, they're maintaining a legacy ruby codebase. So Ruby is now the language of mature businesses, and startups have moved on to other weird stuff. If Ruby cycles back to being the new hotness, it will be because 1) the Ruby community is still amazing (there's a gem for that), and 2) some of the newest Rails features "return joy to programming", in that they bring the front-end back to Rails while making it run more like Phoenix on Elixir. I feel like Ruby has settled in as the #5 language, well ahead of php and the niche languages (go, elixir, etc), but behind Python, Java, C#, and JS. Of note: code school grads seem like they're still 50% Rails, 25% Node, 20% Python, and 5% Other.
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sim posted:Yeah I had a couple that asked for that, but by and large I just gave my resume to the recruiter and they handled the rest. I followed this guy's advice: https://egghead.io/talks/egghead-how-social-media-can-land-you-your-dream-job. Note that I do have 12 years of experience with frontend dev, so your mileage may vary depending on how hot the market is for your particular skillset. So it seems LinkedIn does most of the work here.
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Yes, absolutely. I've connected with a few recruiters via Twitter or directly through email, but LinkedIn is by far the most useful tool (that I've used) for getting interviews.
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i never learned python well because i was doing perl poo poo circa 2003 and then i got a job as a student that used ruby. rails wasn't available yet on our architecture so we rolled our own thing, but I ended up doing ruby for the next few years and then went to grad school and didnt program much, and then got a job at a rails shop. now i do infosec poo poo and nobody cares what language terrible one-off scripts are in anyway does ruby have equivalents for numpy, pandas, and scapy these days? what about jupyter poo poo? i didnt see python start overtaking ruby for webdev until ML became the new hotness so everybody that wanted to do a toy project got their feet wet there. big lost opportunity for the ruby community IMO. scapy was really important to me but is pretty niche; not having good numpy/pandas replacements was really bad though
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Achmed Jones posted:i never learned python well because i was doing perl poo poo circa 2003 and then i got a job as a student that used ruby. rails wasn't available yet on our architecture so we rolled our own thing, but I ended up doing ruby for the next few years and then went to grad school and didnt program much, and then got a job at a rails shop. now i do infosec poo poo and nobody cares what language terrible one-off scripts are in There are a number, yes. There's always a gem for that.
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don't give me that, there's a difference between a good gem and a gem that someone shat out five years ago and hasn't updated since. please name names if you know and can recommend some, because i did a lot of searching circa 2018 and they were pretty much all trash
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theyre all still trash and not even close to numpy / scipy / all the other poo poo python has functionality if you're still plugged into rubyland they would tell you if they had anything better for anything numeric than python. they dont bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 17:42
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Achmed Jones posted:don't give me that, there's a difference between a good gem and a gem that someone shat out five years ago and hasn't updated since. please name names if you know and can recommend some, because i did a lot of searching circa 2018 and they were pretty much all trash *shrug* that has been an issue with ruby gems being old. but also math doesn't change and a lot of those old gems that haven't been updated in years still work just fine. If I was working in Ruby with something like this, then I would find something that would do the job. If I was creating something new, then I probably wouldn't touch it.
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kayakyakr posted:*shrug* that has been an issue with ruby gems being old. but also math doesn't change and a lot of those old gems that haven't been updated in years still work just fine. Tell me you don't work in scientific computing without telling me that you don't work in scientific computing.
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Yeah even places all in on Ruby like Shopify still use Python for all their DS&ML with a smattering of Go for pipeline work.
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kayakyakr posted:*shrug* that has been an issue with ruby gems being old. but also math doesn't change and a lot of those old gems that haven't been updated in years still work just fine. oh ok you were blowing smoke then
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Less Fat Luke posted:Yeah even places all in on Ruby like Shopify still use Python for all their DS&ML with a smattering of Go for pipeline work. yeah that was the state of things last i looked too. dang. oh well i expect that ruby'll eventually get good packetcrafting (if it doesn't have it already) for metasploit reasons if nothing else
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Worth noting in this conversation that Guido is working full time at Microsoft on improving speeds for Python at the moment, I'm not sure of what all progress is being made but I personally find it difficult to imagine Ruby rising from the grave.
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I can absolutely see a wave of blog posts about Ruby being super good now. Kinda like Perl 6
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kayakyakr posted:*shrug* that has been an issue with ruby gems being old. but also math doesn't change and a lot of those old gems that haven't been updated in years still work just fine. a lot of engineering work has gone into the python data ecosystem across performance, features, and ergonomics, and this has been true for a long time. pandas made data analysis in Python easier and more popular, but it could only be built thanks to numpy already existing I think some of that work wouldn't be necessary with a more performant language (not Ruby unfortunately) but that aside there's a lot happening in data land, and niche languages in that domain will get further left behind in terms of overall usability though JRuby with Cascading is or was a thing, so there's always opportunities for the sufficiently motivated
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cum jabbar posted:Crystal seems cool Well now that Steve Klabnik is angry at Amazon about Rust, we need to find some other esoteric language to hype to the moon - so why not?
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