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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Grapplejack posted:

being racist. something about china threads brings them out! it happens on both sides tho since pevin stan got banned for racism but pro-china racism

I'm honestly so sick of Han supremacism

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LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

sexpig by night posted:

it feels like the bigger issue in china threads is the hordes of people eager to speak like 1820s explorers about how the primative oriental mind simply accepts oppression and loves eating dog or whatever

Got any good examples of that?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Southpaugh posted:

definitely a new type of chinese stealth mine better give the boys more money to get to the bottom of it

Or they just learned the best from CIA and just lied

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


LimburgLimbo posted:

Got any good examples of that?

the dnd and gbs threads are right there

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

my personal opinion on china is that china will grow larger. they have big plans.



Going forward, I expect china to be a top nation in terms of having rocks

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
one of the hardest we've ever seen, from the standpoint of rocks

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
huh, the documentary openly talks about the failures of the great leap forward and the cultural revolution

if u read gbs or whatever you would think they censor everything lmao

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


fits my needs posted:

huh, the documentary openly talks about the failures of the great leap forward and the cultural revolution

if u read gbs or whatever you would think they censor everything lmao

has been mentioned earlier, but again, perhaps the strongest merit of the CPC is their ownership of party history. they are right to argue that the soviet union's constant blank-slating every new government only served to hinder itself

there are official party accounts and analyses from theoreticians about what has worked and not, which is important in any situation but especially more so for a socialist project, even if one thinks nominally about it

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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gradenko_2000 posted:

one of the hardest we've ever seen, from the standpoint of rocks

hard to avoid rocks when your navy couldn't avoid floating manmade ones a million times larger equipped with AIS in 2017

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Nonsense, we are simply seeing the success of china's Boulder & Rock Initiative (BRI)

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011




been a while that I got one of these

the kingdom of sand line, man, I remember listening to that since 2011 or so

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Nobody listens to Viva La Vida anymore.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

30.5 Days posted:

Nonsense, we are simply seeing the success of china's Boulder & Rock Initiative (BRI)

There's an Earth Kingdom joke in here somewhere

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

hot witch divorcee posted:

the chinese government has major approval and popularity among the populace, with the cpc keeping their needs centered in everything they do, and up to 10% of the population in the party, and even the people who don't like it are upset about something relatively minor, petty, and personal compared to american complaints like "healthcare plz" and "help my bones are being ground into dust"

China's dissidents are upset about relatively minor, petty issues such as having their families vanish for vague or nonexistent crimes:

https://hongkongfp.com/2019/02/13/families-missing-uighurs-demand-proof-life-videos-china/

Mass extrajudicial detention is normally a humanitarian crisis, but these are Chinese lives we're talking about. So, you know, whatever.

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

je1 healthcare posted:

China's dissidents are upset about relatively minor, petty issues such as having their families vanish for vague or nonexistent crimes:

https://hongkongfp.com/2019/02/13/families-missing-uighurs-demand-proof-life-videos-china/

Mass extrajudicial detention is normally a humanitarian crisis, but these are Chinese lives we're talking about. So, you know, whatever.

yeah imagine people going to jail for a long time for vague or unjust reasons. can't imagine that.... (don't look at incarceration rates per capita)

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
wow the hong kong free press

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Mirello posted:

yeah imagine people going to jail for a long time for vague or unjust reasons. can't imagine that.... (don't look at incarceration rates per capita)

Oh don't get me wrong, it's way worse when the same or lesser civil right infringements happen to Americans

But it's a good thing you reminded us not to check incarceration rates per capita, because lol the CCP doesn't publish incarceration numbers. The populace doesn't need it and can't be trusted to know.

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

fits my needs posted:

huh, the documentary openly talks about the failures of the great leap forward and the cultural revolution

if u read gbs or whatever you would think they censor everything lmao

I thought pretty scathing critique of the cultural revolution and Great Leap Forward are like orthodox ML takes nowadays, like Liu Cixin spends half his novels criticizing the cultural revolution and he’s in great standing with the CPC. not to mention all the media from the 80s and 90s

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Don't check the total incarcerated either because the united States also wins on that metric.

Really bizarre complaint since reliable third party estimates are available and you would certainly discount any self reporting China did

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

fits my needs posted:

huh, the documentary openly talks about the failures of the great leap forward and the cultural revolution

if u read gbs or whatever you would think they censor everything lmao

one of the big eye-opening moments reading through Deng's bio was how much they were willing to accept as mistakes and missteps even within living memory

as you said, the way the West would have us believe it, China just does an elaborate cover-up of the GLF and the Cultural Revolution, but that's clearly not the case!

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

je1 healthcare posted:

Oh don't get me wrong, it's way worse when the same or lesser civil right infringements happen to Americans


What about when worse is done in Guantanamo and Abu gharaib?

I'm sure if I checked tho you would be a consistent critic of those places and if you vote in the USA you would not have enabled war hawks and private prison funded vampires like Hillary and Biden tho.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

poopinmymouth posted:

What about when worse is done in Guantanamo and Abu gharaib?

I'm sure if I checked tho you would be a consistent critic of those places and if you vote in the USA you would not have enabled war hawks and private prison funded vampires like Hillary and Biden tho.

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner. And Guantano Bay has been toured by a dozen different documentary crews at this point.

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same

je1 healthcare has issued a correction as of 09:09 on Oct 8, 2021

Stockwell
Mar 29, 2005
Ask me about personal watercraft.
:allears:

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





je1 healthcare posted:

Oh don't get me wrong, it's way worse when the same or lesser civil right infringements happen to Americans

But it's a good thing you reminded us not to check incarceration rates per capita, because lol the CCP doesn't publish incarceration numbers. The populace doesn't need it and can't be trusted to know.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/315605/asian-countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/ :confused:

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





US is 639 per 100K btw, lol

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
It doesn't matter if the government has public support or not when you see somebody talk about sanctions or a trade embargo on China. Those would ruin the lives of an insane number of Chinese people, with the least fortunate being hit the worst (this means ethnic minorities like Uyghurs).

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





je1 healthcare posted:

What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more right and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner.
they have been held without trial for 20 loving years you absolute oval office of a human being

"prisoners" in xinjiang are given jobs after being deradicalized you idiot. you loving moron

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

je1 healthcare posted:

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner.
what's your opinion of jeffrey epstein

poopinmymouth
Mar 2, 2005

PROUD 2 B AMERICAN (these colors don't run)

je1 healthcare posted:

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner. And Guantano Bay has been toured by a dozen different documentary crews at this point.

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same

I see by omission you did vote for both of them, making you a massive hypocrite.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Southpaugh posted:

definitely a new type of chinese stealth mine better give the boys more money to get to the bottom of it

Only Homelander can defeat the PLA-N.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
trust the PLAN #wwg1wga

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

je1 healthcare posted:

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner. And Guantano Bay has been toured by a dozen different documentary crews at this point.

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same

woah, when did bush and rumsfeld get arrested and prosecuted????

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

je1 healthcare posted:

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted

lmao

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

je1 healthcare posted:

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner. And Guantano Bay has been toured by a dozen different documentary crews at this point.

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same

Good bit.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

je1 healthcare posted:

Yes, those are also human rights abuses. Wow, that wasn`t hard to acknowledge at all! Bit of an imperfect comparison though, since Guantano is down to about 50 inmates. What´s amazing and tragic is that they`re still afforded slihtly more rights and legal transparency than the average Chinese prisoner. And Guantano Bay has been toured by a dozen different documentary crews at this point.

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same





Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

je1 healthcare posted:

I´d love to raise heck about Abu Gharaib, but the officers and leaders responsible were arrested and prosecuted years before I had an account. It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability . Let us know when Xi Jinping does the same

Ok let's assume that what you're saying is true, and the people responsible for Abu Ghraib were held responsible. What about the dozens of other torture facilities and black sites that the US has run and continues to run? The only thing unique about Abu Ghraib was that pictures of it were taken up by the press.

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1441059524127903751

Also you're a loving idiot for thinking anything "vaguely resembling public accountability" was taken wrt to Abu Ghraib. A few low level grunts who were only doing what their commanders had explicitly encouraged were thrown under the bus to save the real architects of the global torture program. A program which persists to this day.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Just an incredible 1-2 punch post

1. Wow, jeez, obviously I think the US is bad too. See how easy it is to admit this??

2. Also, the US really isn't that bad. After all President Bush said he was weawy sowwy

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
tbf to the CIA, Gina haspels involvement in torture in thailand or wherever did put a pretty definite end to her career

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

je1 healthcare posted:

It`s not worth mutch, but president Bush apologized to the world for what happened as something vaguely resembling public accountability .

Almost a million people died in the Iraq war for no reason, but I guess a big ol' "whoopsie doodle" counts for a lot if you're the most gullible idiot on the planet.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

XMNN posted:

tbf to the CIA, Gina haspels involvement in torture in thailand or wherever did put a pretty definite end to her career

It's that she got caught.

Also a bit late but lol that western culture is so caught up in Great Man theory they unironically think that China is worse off without Jack Ma and that people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk are irreplaceable and not literally the most replaceable part of the company

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