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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




holy loving lol I have never seen this before and I cannot stop laughing



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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Barreft posted:


It's not a really good point, it's common sense.

I guess :shrug:

I never actually thought about how a server merger would actually work but it actually wouldn’t work that well at all.

So what do they do with those dead servers then?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

CLAM DOWN posted:

holy loving lol I have never seen this before and I cannot stop laughing





Yeah steam is having a good one tonight. Someone in the steam thread said some update broke quite a few other games as well.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

MarcusSA posted:

I guess :shrug:

I never actually thought about how a server merger would actually work but it actually wouldn’t work that well at all.

So what do they do with those dead servers then?

They don't even have a plan for endgame, you think they know any of that? There's probably like 3 devs still working on this. No sub means gently caress you, thanks for the cash for this quarterly.

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Barreft posted:

They don't even have a plan for endgame, you think they know any of that? There's probably like 3 devs still working on this. No sub means gently caress you, thanks for the cash for this quarterly.

Amazon is making a serious investment in games--see their newly leaked plans for "Vapor." Given the success of NW so far, there's no doubt they'll be quite happy to sell you $30 expansions every so often in the future.

I mean, ESO is now...how old? Like 7, 8 years? No-sub games can do just fine over time as long as they have regular paid expansions and healthy cash-shop offerings.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

DrDork posted:

Amazon is making a serious investment in games--see their newly leaked plans for "Vapor." Given the success of NW so far, there's no doubt they'll be quite happy to sell you $30 expansions every so often in the future.

I mean, ESO is now...how old? Like 7, 8 years? No-sub games can do just fine over time as long as they have regular paid expansions and healthy cash-shop offerings.

ESO has it's own homemade engine

cryengine/lumberyard sucks

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

Mr. Torrance posted:

You can now make characters on Royllo or Plancta, almost all of the servers are allowing new characters now.

fuuuck

I'll make a character on Plancta I guess but I really don't want to level all those skills again lol. Server transfers, please, hurry........

Pussy Snorkel
Sep 12, 2008

With the Pussy Snorkel, any man can be a dive master.

Babe Magnet posted:

fuuuck

I'll make a character on Plancta I guess but I really don't want to level all those skills again lol. Server transfers, please, hurry........

Unlocking worlds is step one, followed by activating transfers. I'd wait.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

Babe Magnet posted:

fuuuck

I'll make a character on Plancta I guess but I really don't want to level all those skills again lol. Server transfers, please, hurry........

I don't think they even mentioned server transfers besides a star citizen 'yeah it'll happen sometime.'

Server caps are too low, there's no way hundreds of people will be able to freely transfer to a full server.

Please prove me wrong, because i'd love to play. quotes, anything, please

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Peak concurrent players by day.

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

The Locator posted:

Peak concurrent players by day.

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

There's literally no reason to play this game unless you're in a big guild and want to grief ppl and control the whole area and feel like big boys. There's nothing else to it.

Oh poo poo Metroid Dread just unlocked, gonna play that. Have fun collecting 2k hemp for no reason other than something to do.

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

MarcusSA posted:

I wonder what they raised the cap to this time.

Also this guy makes a really good point about how server mergers maybe couldn’t happen or if they did it would be absolutely hosed.

https://youtu.be/z4UjJpsGW-M

He also makes a really good point about how having no low level characters can really screw the economy for the higher level crafters.

This guy talking about "oh my god, 1500 iron ore to make a set of orichalcum tools!" I can farm that myself in 40 minutes, and my pick doesn't have +15% resource from nodes like others I've seen, nor do I drink the potions that give another +7% yield on top of that, and probably an even better potion I don't have access to. You absolutely do not need low-level players to facilitate this, whatsoever.

The reason given for servers not being mergeable really doesn't make sense to me, either. Oh no, someone is going to complain their pubbie zerg guild doesn't own all the poo poo they used to on their backwater server, they'll get over it. This guy is literally complaining that it's "fatiguing" to try to organize a giant pubbie guild so that your faction owns all the poo poo on the map. The high level "resource glut" he's talking about only exists because everybody on the entire server is simultaneously grinding their skill up from the low-level poo poo.

I agree that the 3-way faction split looks like it could potentially be a disaster, for the reasons he described, but that's about it.

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

WarEternal posted:

This guy talking about "oh my god, 1500 iron ore to make a set of orichalcum tools!" I can farm that myself in 40 minutes, and my pick doesn't have +15% resource from nodes like others I've seen, nor do I drink the potions that give another +7% yield on top of that, and probably an even better potion I don't have access to. You absolutely do not need low-level players to facilitate this, whatsoever.

The reason given for servers not being mergeable really doesn't make sense to me, either. Oh no, someone is going to complain their pubbie zerg guild doesn't own all the poo poo they used to on their backwater server, they'll get over it. This guy is literally complaining that it's "fatiguing" to try to organize a giant pubbie guild so that your faction owns all the poo poo on the map. The high level "resource glut" he's talking about only exists because everybody on the entire server is simultaneously grinding their skill up from the low-level poo poo.

I agree that the 3-way faction split looks like it could potentially be a disaster, for the reasons he described, but that's about it.

The engine can't handle it.

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Barreft posted:

The engine can't handle it.

That may be true, but that's not the reason stated in the video.

Barreft posted:

I don't think they even mentioned server transfers besides a star citizen 'yeah it'll happen sometime.'

Server caps are too low, there's no way hundreds of people will be able to freely transfer to a full server.

Please prove me wrong, because i'd love to play. quotes, anything, please

quote:

We are also working hard on a feature that will allow you to transfer your characters to a different server, so if you choose one now just to get up and playing, you can make a different choice later to play on a server with your friends. Our goal is to release this feature next week, once we’ve thoroughly tested and are sure it’s ready. Prior to its release, we will provide detailed information on how the transfer process works. We know how important it is to be able to play with friends, so we're putting this feature at the top of our priority list.

quote:

Hey all, last Thursday, we communicated in an article that we were targeting character transfers for this week. The team is still on track to deliver on that plan.

We are working with them to get a full FAQ for character transfers and once we have all the details we anticipate folks will want to know, we’ll share the full list.

We really appreciate your patience for this and understand how important it is to have this information.

WarEternal fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Oct 8, 2021

Last King
Sep 29, 2007

In corporate R'lyeh, Cthulhu works you.

Fun Shoe
believe character creation is open on royllo, if you goons wanna try rolling here. better late than never. who knows what happens in another week or so...

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

The Locator posted:

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

lol

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem
Last night we had the syndicate blatantly exploit the handin bug to declare war on three territories under the space of an hour, luckily it seems the wars are spaced out quite evenly for them so they won't be under resourced in trying to field enough people.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005


Barreft posted:

ESO has it's own homemade engine

cryengine/lumberyard sucks

I find it pretty comical that you are talking about ESO's engine in a positive light given the massive performance issues it frequently has...but do what you got to do to create the narrative you wish...

ESO was in worse shape at release than NW - hell it's still a mess in many ways and is basically a casual theme park MMO with broken PvP. It took ESO about 4 years to become a game sort of worth playing...

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Kill All Cops posted:

Last night we had the syndicate blatantly exploit the handin bug to declare war on three territories under the space of an hour, luckily it seems the wars are spaced out quite evenly for them so they won't be under resourced in trying to field enough people.

afaik its not even a bug, there's just a big bonus for attacking a territory that hasn't been at war in a while, or for being the faction with fewer territories (syndicate only has two right now)

DropTheAnvil
May 16, 2021

The Locator posted:

Peak concurrent players by day.

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

I'd wait to get a bigger sample size. You only have one weekend in your data (the 2nd and 3rd). Like, yeah the weekend is going to have max concurrent people because people can play, then it will peter out. See what happens next weekend.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


the numbers today might be weird weird because the Steam/EAC thing is locking a huge number of people out of the game, or at least it was a little while ago

Barreft
Jul 21, 2014

FileNotFound posted:

I find it pretty comical that you are talking about ESO's engine in a positive light given the massive performance issues it frequently has...but do what you got to do to create the narrative you wish...

ESO was in worse shape at release than NW - hell it's still a mess in many ways and is basically a casual theme park MMO with broken PvP. It took ESO about 4 years to become a game sort of worth playing...

I didn't say it in a positive light. Someone else mentioned ESO. Settle down Beavis

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Flavahbeast posted:

afaik its not even a bug, there's just a big bonus for attacking a territory that hasn't been at war in a while, or for being the faction with fewer territories (syndicate only has two right now)

I'm sure they had a bonus for the towns that were due for a war, but taking three of them in such a short amount of time made me think about this post:

orange juche posted:

Federation Gold is at least friendly to the goon groups on Rollyo, so it's not as bad as it could be (letting the territory drop and letting the opposite factions get it). The territory may yet fall to purple anyways since they're abusing a rapid click exploit to multiply the impact of PVP mission turnins.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Plancta Covenant has a tradition now. Every time we win, we gather in the church and listen to Pope Zangrief (shirtless hero on the altar) give us a sermon on slaughtering innocents in the name of the spark. All hail.

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

The Locator posted:

Peak concurrent players by day.

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

It's gonna be the Artifact of MMOs. Hyped by streamers but bad gameplay that supposedly appeals to "gamers", who don't like all that QoL Blizzard bullshit, only to quit the game after a few days because it turns out that nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

Impotence
Nov 8, 2010
Lipstick Apathy

The Locator posted:

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

If you match week over week it doesn't drop. last thursday was 585k. This thursday is 587k. The bump is weekend - the other days match up pretty closely so far.

causticBeet
Mar 2, 2010

BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU
This game feels like playing EVE’s faction warfare if you took out the PVP and it was designed by cowards who are terrified of losing.

It’s a beautiful game with fun combat and an engaging grind, but there is absolutely nothing compelling or lasting. I think this game is dead by the end of the year if they don’t pull some magically huge content or mechanic updates out of left field.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

MarcusSA posted:

I wonder what they raised the cap to this time.

Also this guy makes a really good point about how server mergers maybe couldn’t happen or if they did it would be absolutely hosed.

https://youtu.be/z4UjJpsGW-M

He also makes a really good point about how having no low level characters can really screw the economy for the higher level crafters.

I gotta say, maybe I just enjoy british wit, but I'm enjoying his other videos. As an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1Y3cSChK8

So thanks for sharing this dude.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

GaussianCopula posted:

It's gonna be the Artifact of MMOs. Hyped by streamers but bad gameplay that supposedly appeals to "gamers", who don't like all that QoL Blizzard bullshit, only to quit the game after a few days because it turns out that nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

It’s already lasted longer than artifact did, though.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Biowarfare posted:

If you match week over week it doesn't drop. last thursday was 585k. This thursday is 587k. The bump is weekend - the other days match up pretty closely so far.

We shall see, the thing is that up until the max count, there were huge queues on at least a dozen servers at all hours. The limiting factor a week ago was server capacity as they were still adding servers to handle demand. My backwater server had up to 600 person queues last Thursday. Today? Max population I saw was 1600 and at 11pm PST tonight there was not a single server with over 2000 people or a queue, so while the number actually playing might be the same, the total number *trying* to play has shrunk greatly IMO.

We'll see over the next week or two for sure, but my own observations on my server tell me that the population is already declining rapidly.

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.
if you've been around mmo hmo for any considerable length of time you've seen worse games survive with much less

atlas has like 400 players and just got a new content patch today

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
They do not feed off subscription fees, so everyone who bought the game and doesnt use their servers is a win basically

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

Everquest (II, maybe?) is still getting updates. This game isn't getting shut down just because it's not WoW or FFXIV levels of popular.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Kill All Cops posted:

I'm sure they had a bonus for the towns that were due for a war, but taking three of them in such a short amount of time made me think about this post:

Yeah that was before the devpost saying "WORKING AS INTENDED"

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


not sure how but I got into plancta today

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

The Locator posted:

Peak concurrent players by day.

2021-09-28 22:20 (UTC) 437529
2021-09-29 20:50 (UTC) 533074
2021-09-30 19:10 (UTC) 584444
2021-10-01 21:44 (UTC) 643545
2021-10-02 20:52 (UTC) 713193
2021-10-03 19:47 (UTC) 763956
2021-10-04 20:32 (UTC) 682442
2021-10-05 19:55 (UTC) 654487
2021-10-06 19:50 (UTC) 647080
2021-10-07 19:41 (UTC) 586833
2021-10-08 00:00 (UTC) 455649

Will be interesting to see what the numbers look like next weekend. If the numbers keep dropping at that rate, not gonna be good for this game. Today's numbers can obviously change given it's showing 00:00 UTC instead of the other days around 20:00 UTC for the final stats.

This is a terrible sample that doesn't tell us anything. You could just as easily argue it shows a week over week increase because this number is cyclical.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


Try to join your servers. I seriously don’t know how but I got into the sfd server.

theguybro
Dec 16, 2012

Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Royllo servers are open to new character creation as of the time of this post according to their server status page.

https://www.newworld.com/en-us/support/server-status

Malaria
Oct 21, 2017



theguybro posted:

Royllo servers are open to new character creation as of the time of this post according to their server status page.

https://www.newworld.com/en-us/support/server-status

That's awesome. I just rerolled. Sadly I work the next 3 nights and can't play much. Happy to be on a server with goons though, it was weird wandering elsewhere.

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theguybro
Dec 16, 2012

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Malaria posted:

That's awesome. I just rerolled. Sadly I work the next 3 nights and can't play much. Happy to be on a server with goons though, it was weird wandering elsewhere.

Hell yeah. Best of luck, the game has been really fun so far!

e: make sure you join one of the goon companies if you would also like to play with goons

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