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Taear posted:Oh poo poo is that who it was? MEJ is the brunette Vulcan lower decker, and someone else I can’t remember. I definitely heard him twice this episode though.
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The Chairman posted:personally, I just hope we get more adorable targ content seconding this. you know the federation's internet is full of loltarg memes
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Oct 8, 2021 07:03
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Absolutely top-notch Trek episode. This show has come a long way in most of two seasons to stand with the best of the franchise. They haven't had, and might never have episodes like "In the pale moonlight" or "Measure of a Man", but their average episode is respectable and their best so far is only topped by peak Trek.
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Oct 8, 2021 07:25
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MikeJF posted:
This is exactly what Big Rod would have said. A little detail I liked is aparently Bajor is a hub for learning, as the Klingon Captain refers to Klingons going to Bajoran Academies. That's pretty cool. I bet they're way more fun than the Vulcan ones.
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Oct 8, 2021 07:37
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Oct 8, 2021 07:55
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I want to see T'ana interact with the Borg just to see her get a bit bug-eyed with their eye lasers.
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Oct 8, 2021 08:07
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MikeJF posted:To be fair Gargoyles is practically a Trek spinoff. It's a spin off of the episode Time's Arrow IIRC.
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Oct 8, 2021 09:17
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It's kind of amazing that the dumb fart joke cartoon is the best star trek has been in over 2 decades. Seriously I really loved that ep, and I'm hoping we get more of the lower deck Klingons in the future, especially as it seems certain Vulcan mariner is going to be joining the crew.
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Yeah, back when I first heard they were making Lower Decks, I thought the show would quickly turn to just making fun of Trek. Instead it's having fun with Trek.
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Oct 8, 2021 12:40
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Oct 8, 2021 13:26
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Axe-man posted:I thought the episode... was acceptable. You've lost all objectivity. You will meditate for two days.
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Oct 8, 2021 13:33
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To be fair, a Vulcan losing control is a bad thing. Or is it just the males who do the seven year murder-sex thing?
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Oct 8, 2021 14:06
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Oct 8, 2021 14:11
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The show is still very much a comedy, but I’m happy it’s not afraid to veer into split seconds of drama now. That Klingon duel with the captain was actually, genuinely, gripping.
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Oct 8, 2021 14:24
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Megillah Gorilla posted:To be fair, a Vulcan losing control is a bad thing. It's been made clear that the Pon Farr is just a Vulcan thing in general. Although it was originally a male only thing? idk. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 14:45
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A.o.D. posted:It's been made clear that the Pon Farr is just a Vulcan thing in general. Although it was originally a male only thing? idk. IIRC T-Pol also went through Pon Farr?
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Oct 8, 2021 15:01
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Both genders experiencing Pon Farr would require their 7 year cycles to sync to practically the same day. It's a possible explanation for the arranged marriages.
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Oct 8, 2021 15:09
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CaptainSkinny posted:Both genders experiencing Pon Farr would require their 7 year cycles to sync to practically the same day. It's a possible explanation for the arranged marriages. "Sulk, meet P'jel. She'll be horny in overlapping intervals with your own horny."
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Oct 8, 2021 15:14
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CaptainSkinny posted:Both genders experiencing Pon Farr would require their 7 year cycles to sync to practically the same day. It's a possible explanation for the arranged marriages. it's literally impossible that Gene Roddenberry didn't corner someone on the production team for half an hour to explain how Vulcans logically accept their spouses having slam pieces on the side
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Oct 8, 2021 15:22
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I thought that, that one Enterprise episode of emotional Vulcans aside, Vulcans can bone without being in Pon Farr, but they have to bone or fight while in Pon Farr.
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Oct 8, 2021 15:24
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Vulcans are kind of gigantic hypocrites. See: how they say they never lie, but then do so all the time and just say it was logical to do so.
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CaptainSkinny posted:Both genders experiencing Pon Farr would require their 7 year cycles to sync to practically the same day. It's a possible explanation for the arranged marriages. It could also be caused by the arranged marriages. Put psychics together, weird stuff can happen. (It was so Enterprise could show a horny T'Pol. Nitrousoxide posted:Vulcans are kind of gigantic hypocrites. See: how they say they never lie, but then do so all the time and just say it was logical to do so. I don't know if that's hypocrisy, so much as it just is lying. And honestly, I don't think Vulcan do lie all the time. We've seen Vulcans lie or bluff, but for the most part, they seem honest.
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Epicurius posted:I don't know if that's hypocrisy, so much as it just is lying. And honestly, I don't think Vulcan do lie all the time. We've seen Vulcans lie or bluff, but for the most part, they seem honest. They lie if ordered to or similar for sure A lot of times I think they can basically justify drat near anything by logicing themselves into a situation where they are "forced" to lie. It seems like a very mailable ethos for the (perhaps rare) underhanded Vulcan
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The Bloop posted:They lie if ordered to or similar for sure Sure, but all this is no different than people. I mean, most people don't generally lie, and most societies consider most lies immoral, but people can and do lie. Honestly, I don't know that Vulcans are ethically very different than humans, just...more restrained.
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Epicurius posted:Sure, but all this is no different than people. I mean, most people don't generally lie, and most societies consider most lies immoral, but people can and do lie. Honestly, I don't know that Vulcans are ethically very different than humans, just...more restrained. What I'm getting at is that they can create elaborate situations which remind me of human loophole poo poo like sabbath automation They can choose to do any evil thing and then create a rube goldberg logic machine to force themselves to do it at a level that humans could only marvel at. And they may get away with it even if caught as long as they can logically explain it and not let emotion get into it. It's probably how Vulcan left the Federation.
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Oct 8, 2021 16:07
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Vanilla Bison posted:it's literally impossible that Gene Roddenberry didn't corner someone on the production team for half an hour to explain how Vulcans logically accept their spouses having slam pieces on the side Voyager confirmed it has to be with their spouse, and having sex for reasons other than procreation or Pon Farr would be highly illogical.
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Is JJ Abrams Trek considered “Modern” Star Trek? Cause I just rewatched the 2009 movie and it’s really good. Do the new shows happen in the timeline where Vulcan still exists? I think LD made a few references to Vulcan and I can’t imagine an entire Vulcan fleet existing in a universe where most of the race has been killed.
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I would be fine with Vulcan surviving, they got really trigger happy blowing up planets, Romulus is enough
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Is JJ Abrams Trek considered “Modern” Star Trek? All the current TV shows happen in the "Prime" timeline, aka the same timeline as TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. The JJ-verse ones happen in a seperate timeline that diverged because of the events in Star Trek 2009 So the short answer is, yes Vulcan still exists in the TV shows.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Is JJ Abrams Trek considered “Modern” Star Trek? Discovery tried to canonise JJ Trek as an alternate timeline as a way to appease the lore nerds and the response was 'that's not the reason we don't like your bad show'. Also they visit Vulcan.
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Speaking of Disco, Star Trek Online just did the Armstrong / 32nd Century Constitution: they had access to the actual show 3D model, so absurdly this is the first time we can properly see details of how the drat thing's laid out.   Looks like they decided to save some time on Saucer Sep. Come to think of it, how come in the big final battle we never saw this or Voyager-J attack multi-vector-Prometheus-style? If you're gonna have separated parts as well as disconnected nacelles you may as well show off poo poo like that. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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MikeJF posted:Speaking of Disco, Star Trek Online just did the Armstrong / 32nd Century Constitution: they had access to the actual show 3D model, so absurdly this is the first time we can properly see details of how the drat thing's laid out. It's clearly designed so that the bridge crew can separate and yolo away leaving everyone else to their fiery deaths.
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Alchenar posted:It's clearly designed so that the bridge crew can separate and yolo away leaving everyone else to their fiery deaths. Ah, the captain's yeet
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Brawnfire posted:Ah, the captain's yeet
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Alchenar posted:It's clearly designed so that the bridge crew can separate and yolo away leaving everyone else to their fiery deaths. For a while I think there was an idea during development that one of the reasons that the bridge was on top of the ship was that the whole bridge could pop off as a giant escape pod, but it never got written in.
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^ yeah Realistically, a ship's bridge should double as a fully-fledged escape pod. Ninety nine times out of a hundred the bridge is one of the most visible targets on almost all Trek ships, and it would make sense to have a last line of escape. For all of JJ-Trek's issues, the "Kelvin pod" bridge escape pods made a lot of sense. And treknically, the bridges were designed as interchangeable units, so no reason they can't have fully independent support systems and even rudimentary propulsion. That said, I don't like those ships much, even if I do admire them attempting something that actually looks futuristic.
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I don't know that ejecting the bridge really helps though. It's so exposed if it gets hit then everyone there is dead, and if they eject it before it's been hit that's just leaving the rest of the ship adrift and also leaving the bridge as kind of an easy target if done during a battle. And ejecting the bridge to save the officers while the rest of the ship hurtles into a black hole or other deadly anomaly feels kind of lovely.
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Shyrka posted:And ejecting the bridge to save the officers while the rest of the ship hurtles into a black hole or other deadly anomaly feels kind of lovely. it's exactly the kind of thing Discovery would do. ship is gonna explode and [captain] has to choose between saving the crew or Burnham. They need Burnham alive because she is the key to [galaxy destroying problem]. Fifteen minutes of crying then crew gets dumped into a black hole.
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Shyrka posted:... ejecting the bridge to save the officers while the rest of the ship hurtles into a black hole or other deadly anomaly feels kind of lovely. Seems a very badmiral thing to do, yeah "rank hath its privileges" The rest of the crew do have their own escape pods, but no cool main viewscreen or seatbeltless swanky chairs. From a defensive pov, in a "poo poo, we gotta get the gently caress off this ship!" situation, it would be just as fast, likely faster, to eject the bridge instead of those officers making their way to the closest escape pod on another level. And even animated, Lower Decks' starship porn has been utterly fantastic.
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