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JOHN SKELETON posted:I'm really enjoying the Wheel Takes podcast too! It has the exact kind of silly humor that I like, combined with a genuine enthusiasm for the subject matter. I guess it's niche enough that no one involved is going to be making any actual money off of this anyway, so there's no use becoming horrible corporate ghouls. Like I said, they've not been trying to radicalize me or sell me pillows, though they frequently make jokes about what group might be sponsoring the podcast. 
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I sure hope they'll be keeping the Fade's cloaks motionless. It's a great creepy detail.
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Oct 7, 2021 23:10
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I'm still a little salty that they're not keeping Lan's active camo cloak, I really hope they do the fades right. I really like the design we've seen of it so far
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CainsDescendant posted:I'm still a little salty that they're not keeping Lan's active camo cloak, I really hope they do the fades right. I really like the design we've seen of it so far
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Oct 8, 2021 01:07
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He might get it in future seasons, but he hasn't had it in any of the promo material and I recall a Q&A with Rafe saying he doesn't have it in season 1. I may be misremembering how definitive he was about that, though.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:10
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IIRC somebody said in some panel or something that it would just be an enormous budget-sink for a pretty small payout. Same as ageless faces.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:26
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yeah i don't know how exactly they would manage to do magical color-shifting cloaks all the time without it being a massive moneysink for something inconsequential or so shoddily done that people would rather it had not been done at all. the answer is pretty clear at that point
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Oct 8, 2021 01:34
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I am pretty attached to the vestiges of sci-fi society being used in the current age, in fact I'd love it being played up even more since I feel like it's one of the coolest elements of the setting, but the budget concerns do make sense. I was thinking it'd be easy enough to just stick him in a chroma green cloak but it probably would kinda look like poo poo. Yet another reason I'm disappointed that this is live action instead of animated, but I'm happy we're getting anything at all.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:39
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i could also be talking out of my rear end but i don't even remember the warder cloaks ever being super relevant. like they were status icons for someone being a warder but a lot of the time there seemed to be instances of them purposefully putting the cloaks away just to not be easily picked out in a crowd because of it.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:42
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If the show is good it won’t matter but if it’s poo poo then it’ll just piss the 5 people who watch it off.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:47
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I"m going to watch every episode no matter how bad they get.
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Oct 8, 2021 01:49
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How are u posted:I"m going to watch every episode no matter how bad they get. i read crossroads of twilight, there’s no way this will be a bigger waste of my time
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Oct 8, 2021 01:52
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My brother is reading the series for the first time. He just finished Eye of the World, and loved it. He calls me all time with questions, and is getting hilariously annoyed at how often I answer with RAFO (so I’m giving him the authentic experience). But he was curious when to read New Spring. I saw a YouTuber say he recommended to read it after book 5, which, when I thought about it, made a lot of sense. Thoughts?
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Oct 8, 2021 01:56
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Johnny Joestar posted:i could also be talking out of my rear end but i don't even remember the warder cloaks ever being super relevant. like they were status icons for someone being a warder but a lot of the time there seemed to be instances of them purposefully putting the cloaks away just to not be easily picked out in a crowd because of it. I think the only cool little bit related to them is when Moridin first pops on the scene, and he's wearing a full rear end complete suit of Fancloth as a stealth getup while spying on Graendal and Sammael's toying with the Shaido. It's a nice reminder/throwback to the visions from the Age of Legends where it was just a normal uniform for soldiers, and it's kinda silly how they still have the ability to make it, but are sorta too nearsighted to use it as much more than a warder status symbol.
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thrawn527 posted:My brother is reading the series for the first time. He just finished Eye of the World, and loved it. He calls me all time with questions, and is getting hilariously annoyed at how often I answer with RAFO (so I’m giving him the authentic experience). But he was curious when to read New Spring. After book 5, yes.
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Oct 8, 2021 03:20
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I never did read it. Is it any good?
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Oct 8, 2021 03:26
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Invalid Validation posted:I never did read it. Is it any good? I really liked it. As for when to read it; It was written between books 10 and 11 so some people will insist it should be read then. Personally I don’t care for that suggestion because book 10 ends on a massive cliffhanger and you tend to want to launch right into book 11. After book 5 is a frequent suggestion because that eliminates basically any spoilers for plot lines and character motivations in the main series - with between book 5 and 6 being a common point to read it because the end of book 5 is something of a natural break in the story. Strictly speaking after book 3 probably works too - there’s nothing really in books 4 or 5 that New Spring would spoil and book 3 is another natural breakpoint in the flow of the story.
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Oct 8, 2021 03:51
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I never read it til after the whole series. But since it seems like they're bringing in New Spring poo poo, it's a short read and after 5 is best at any time, just not before. I'd say just read it for if they pull much from it into the show.
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Oct 8, 2021 03:58
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Invalid Validation posted:I never did read it. Is it any good? It's not bad for a prequel. It basically gives you Lan and Moiraine's backstory. As such it contains significant spoilers for, oh, about up through book four or five. I'd suggest reading it whenever "I want to hear about Lan and Moiraine's backstory now" feels more appealing than "I want to keep reading about Egwene and Rand and Mat and Perrin." So, oh, probably about when the fifty four page elayne-taking-a-bath scene happens in book ten.
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Oct 8, 2021 04:01
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Barreft posted:I never read it til after the whole series. But since it seems like they're bringing in New Spring poo poo, it's a short read and after 5 is best at any time, just not before. The other thing I think they'll pull from for the show -- because they cast a Young Egwene -- is the "Ravens" chapter that was written as a prologue for the young adult republication of Eye of the World. https://www.wattpad.com/78706-jordan-robert-wot-prequel-earlier-ravens
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The other thing I think they'll pull from for the show -- because they cast a Young Egwene -- is the "Ravens" chapter that was written as a prologue for the young adult republication of Eye of the World. I hope so. RJ made that chapter for a reason, he didn't have to when he split the books for YA. It was important.
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Oct 8, 2021 04:06
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The other thing I think they'll pull from for the show -- because they cast a Young Egwene -- is the "Ravens" chapter that was written as a prologue for the young adult republication of Eye of the World. oh, so that explains it. I just bought Eye of the World from the Apple Bookstore because I'm feeling too lazy to find my old paperback and was really confused about that Ravens prologue, because even though it's been, uh decades, since I last read the book I definitely had no recollection of that part.
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The Lord Bude posted:It was written between books 10 and 11 so some people will insist it should be read then. The Lord Bude posted:Personally I don’t care for that suggestion because book 10 ends on a massive I like the idea of just "whenever reading about Moiraine and Lan seems more interesting than reading about Elayne bathing or Perrin being indecisive* or ..." The Lord Bude posted:I really liked it. I loved seeing Moiraine, the series' avatar of poise and calm, back when she was an Accepted, back when she was Nynaeve's age, getting sent by the Amyrlin on wildly dangerous missions (for which there was no one else trustworthy). Honestly, I just really like Moiraine POV chapters, because the inside of her head is so different from the face she presents, and New Spring is a book (half) full of them. Also, her "I need to leave right now or the Tower will put me on the Sun Throne and I won't have a say in the matter." gives great perspective on how she insists on just "Moiraine", no title. *I just mean hammer versus axe.
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howe_sam posted:oh, so that explains it. I just bought Eye of the World from the Apple Bookstore because I'm feeling too lazy to find my old paperback and was really confused about that Ravens prologue, because even though it's been, uh decades, since I last read the book I definitely had no recollection of that part. Yeah, it's weird. For a while, and I think still internationally in some countries, they were splitting the books in half and publishing them that way. When they first did that they added that extra prologue at the front of Eye. If it's been added back into all editions now that would make sense. I think it's mostly there to explain the three thousand year timeskip.
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Oct 8, 2021 11:41
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New Spring is a great book. Not the best in the series, but definitely far better than the worst. I wish I could set up a tier list for the books, but it's been so long that it's hard to remember what goes on in what book.
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S tier: 4, 6, 11 A tier: 1, 2, 3, 5 B tier: 7, 9, NS, AMoL C tier: 8, TGS, ToM D tier: F tier: 10 11 is S tier strictly for the Golden Crane flies for Tarmon Gaidon which is my favorite scene in the whole drat series outside of book 4.
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I'd move 5 up to S on this list. Moiraine vs Lanfear, then her letter. Aviendha stops running (and when Asmodean tells Avi's first sister). Nynaeve's arc. Breaking the siege of Cairhien. The circus plot is delightfully kooky. Rand and Nynaeve completely destroying Rahvin. Morgase's povs.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I'd move 5 up to S on this list. Moiraine vs Lanfear, then her letter. Aviendha stops running (and when Asmodean tells Avi's first sister). Nynaeve's arc. Breaking the siege of Cairhien. The circus plot is delightfully kooky. Rand and Nynaeve completely destroying Rahvin. Morgase's povs. dammit those are all fair points. i think nynaeve/elaynes plot is pretty useless throughout which knocked it down in my memory but there are definitely great moments
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:I'd move 5 up to S on this list. Moiraine vs Lanfear, then her letter. Aviendha stops running (and when Asmodean tells Avi's first sister). Nynaeve's arc. Breaking the siege of Cairhien. The circus plot is delightfully kooky. Rand and Nynaeve completely destroying Rahvin. Morgase's povs. It does unfortunately have the Elayne wants to gently caress her step-dad plotline for most of the book.
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Oct 8, 2021 16:21
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Oct 8, 2021 16:30
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:When and why did "s tier" become a thing It's a Japanese school grading rank and I would say probably popularized in the west from fighting games in the early/mid 90s
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Oct 8, 2021 16:34
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I didn't know either, always seemed strange. Now I do.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:When and why did "s tier" become a thing "S" rank/grade/tier/whatever has been around for decades. It's a Japanese thing that started showing up in video games and whatnot. It generally means "perfect" or "best of the best" when used in this context. Sort of the difference between getting an A and an A+, but, like, more.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's a Japanese school grading rank and I would say probably popularized in the west from fighting games in the early/mid 90s Upgraded in public consciousness more recently in gacha games, too.
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Oct 8, 2021 16:48
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the 'a' stands for 'angreal' and the 's' stands for 'sa'angreal'
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uPen posted:It does unfortunately have the Elayne wants to gently caress her step-dad plotline for most of the book. *Real Dad
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https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1446510090941435906 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VekVXk1Wo0 Title is "The Flame" so ... Aes Sedai/Tar Valon theme? Probably.
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In the clip they just played Lan and Moirane introduce themselves with their actual names, to the Emond's Fielders. Immersion: ruined.
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buffalo all day posted:S tier: 4, 6, 11 While I'll agree that TGS is the roughest of Sanderson's adaptations, with Mat especially, it really does have to go higher than C tier for Natrim's Burrow and especially Verin.
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It is very funny listening to Nyaneve's actor speaking in her Australian accent. "Such an amazing spic-tic-cl"
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