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Argh I want to keep watching, play us more! e: the clip in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMkfP4JsxU
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This loving slaps Really not a fan of the accents in that clip though yeesh
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Oct 8, 2021 20:03
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Rarity posted:This loving slaps Can I ask why? I don’t know much about accents. Is this what someone was talking about earlier, about how the farm people are talking with posh accents? That happens a lot in TV shows and and movies, doesn’t it? Doesn’t necessarily make it better. Just wondering.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:47
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Jordan said the Two Rivers was modeled off of colonial Virginia I think so they "should" sound American while people from Caemlyn are supposed to be more traditionally English with their accents. Moraine should have a french sounding accent since she's from Cairhien, but alas!
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Oct 8, 2021 20:57
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There's only one cultural accent that absolutely simply must be accurate to the books or the show is ruined. e: y'all
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Oct 8, 2021 21:02
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Fantasy means everyone speaks in non specific British Accents duh I find this very irritating but I didn't expect WoT to buck this particular trend anyway so meh
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Oct 8, 2021 21:03
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I do be hoping, but I do no be that hopeful myself.
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How are u posted:There's only one cultural accent that absolutely simply must be accurate to the books or the show is ruined. I’ll laugh hysterically if this one happens, but I kind of doubt it, unfortunately.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:04
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How are u posted:Argh I want to keep watching, play us more! Accents are bad as expected. Though to be honest I prefer them to the horrible mix of USA, British and other accents you'd get in 90s fantasy adaptations (Robin Hood/Dragonheart anyone?) edit for non-nitpicking content: new poster dropped: 
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Oct 8, 2021 21:13
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Looks like the budget is there, that's about all I can take from that. Lan doesn't seem big enough, but they sold the presence they have walking into the inn. Still excited over here. imo the winespring needs to feel big here, but small once we get back to it. So giving it some scale to support the things we know happen there makes sense. The Notorious ZSB fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 21:55
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The Winespring Inn is described as being two stories and having a dozen chimneys so the common room looks pretty accurate to me.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:17
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Wow, had definitely forgotten that it was meant to be that big. It still doesn't look like any old rear end country inn I've ever been to but makes more sense.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:28
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How are u posted:There's only one cultural accent that absolutely simply must be accurate to the books or the show is ruined. Also fake-Russian accents for the Aiel.
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Oct 8, 2021 22:42
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thrawn527 posted:Can I ask why? I don’t know much about accents. Is this what someone was talking about earlier, about how the farm people are talking with posh accents? That happens a lot in TV shows and and movies, doesn’t it? The Emond's Fielders sound like a bunch of theatre kids. I don't care too much about them being Brit or American but they should sound lower class, not like they spent 4 years at Julliard
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Oct 9, 2021 01:57
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Or RADA. Good luck with that.
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El Grillo posted:Wow, had definitely forgotten that it was meant to be that big. It still doesn't look like any old rear end country inn I've ever been to but makes more sense. So you've never been to Emond's Field?
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El Grillo posted:Wow, had definitely forgotten that it was meant to be that big. It still doesn't look like any old rear end country inn I've ever been to but makes more sense. It's worth remembering that before mass production, when everything was made by hand, a lot of craftsmen would put inordinate amounts of work into even small/cheap poo poo because it (a) was one of the only things they were working on at the time and (b) helped make their name or mark. Or just because they were passionate about their work. Mass production and machining for the cheapest amount possible meant that simple/plain work, at least for cheaper goods, became really common. Of course, not everything anyone worked on in ye olden times was intricate looking or anything; but it wasn't unheard of is me point. And also that the singular tavern in an isolated place like Emond's Field probably wouldn't be all that cheap either, since it would serve as a local hub. I haven't read the books in years to get an exact grasp on things, but I'm pretty sure I recall Rand being awed that the tavern owner had several books, making him a veritable rich man in Rand's eyes; both financially and mentally. The owner was the mayor of the area too, making him both more politically important and his establishment that much more important since a lot of the local politics probably ran through there. The Two Rivers was also somewhat famous for the tobacco it produced if I recall. Or at least, the raw goods it exported to become someone else's tobacco. So an outsized amount of money probably flowed back into the area, relative to it's importance otherwise. Emond's Field was still a hamlet in the grand scheme of things, but it was the only notable village or town in the region, and what wealth there was there accumulated in that place most likely. I'm pretty sure I recall character's thinking about how poor/poo poo accommodation or life in other towns and villages they pass through are too, even in comparison to Emond's Field, so the place would have to look somewhat decent as a baseline so other places can be comparatively bad. tsob fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Oct 9, 2021 |
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Oct 9, 2021 12:49
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Johnny Joestar posted:i think that's basically how they view it at amazon, they want people to subscribe to amazon prime and it's much easier to do that by blasting everywhere that some new thing is coming out in a couple weeks than slowly trickling out info with the disclaimer that it won't be here until like 6-8 months from now Sab669 posted:I just think with the absolute abundance of TV shows, games, and whatever other forms of entertainment that are widely available it just doesn't even make sense to tell people about it half a year in advance because they'll just forget makes sense
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The Notorious ZSB posted:This is really the thing with "the slog", its not that its bad reading straight through now its how stretched the primary plots got in those series of books which is such a departure from the first 6 and the last 4 or so. yeah, the first 5 (arguably 6 as you say) WoT books were really brisk and full of crazy reveals all the time, then you hit book 7 and suddenly it takes literally hundreds of pages for even the most tiny shift in plot... Crossroads of Twilight being the absolute worst offender, since it's an entire novel which takes place at the same time as the novel before it, so you don't really get any plot advancement... you just get to see what the most boring characters were doing during the events of the book before it still a great series though
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Also fake-Russian accents for the Aiel. In Three-Fold Land, Dark One find YOU!
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Simone Magus posted:yeah, the first 5 (arguably 6 as you say) WoT books were really brisk and full of crazy reveals all the time, then you hit book 7 and suddenly it takes literally hundreds of pages for even the most tiny shift in plot... Crossroads of Twilight being the absolute worst offender, since it's an entire novel which takes place at the same time as the novel before it, so you don't really get any plot advancement... you just get to see what the most boring characters were doing during the events of the book before it Book 7 by contrast has a lot happening and then has a lack luster ending.
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th3t00t posted:I think people who haven’t read the books in a while forget that nothing happens in book 6 until the ending and it’s one of the most boring books in the series I disagree, I think book 6 is one of the most well-paced books in this section of the series. Rand teleporting back and forth between Cairhien and Caemlyn because of how many Aes Sedai are known to be in each city sets a tempo, and there's tons of stuff to pay attention to inbetween. I do agree that people who read the series for nothing but "Rand blows poo poo up" is reasonably rewarded by the series and would be disappointed in these books, but it definitely takes immersion in the rest of what the series offers that elevates the series above generic fantasy.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The Winespring Inn is described as being two stories and having a dozen chimneys so the common room looks pretty accurate to me. Having a dozen chimneys means that there are a dozen fireplaces. After you take away the kitchen, the main room and the rooms where the al'Veres live, there are perhaps half a dozen rooms for guests. So it's probably about as big as this pub: 
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maybe it's time for another reminder that this is the tv show thread and not the book thread
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Jedit posted:Having a dozen chimneys means that there are a dozen fireplaces. After you take away the kitchen, the main room and the rooms where the al'Veres live, there are perhaps half a dozen rooms for guests. So it's probably about as big as this pub: With two storeys, a dozen chimneys would mean two dozen fireplaces. More, possibly. If the chimneys go up through the middle you'd have a fireplace on each side; A house with two chimneys and two storeys can have four fireplaces on each floor. It must be a genuinely large building. Probably lots of excess capacity to house all the merchants who come in from off when the tabac is harvested. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 9, 2021 |
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I say this with no irony, this thread is gonna be fun once the episode start dropping haha
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"fun" Hopefully the good kind.
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Comic-con panel is online here: https://www.findthemetaverse.com/fi...6hGwVsA4uWl3YeU
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Basically I think books 7-10 might be at most 2 seasons worth of TV and depending on what they trim might be a single season if they move quickly. There is a lot going on that is just dragged out that could be really condensed imo.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Comic-con panel is online here: That one seems to have gotten locked behind a paywall now, but there's a YouTube version of the same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrwkGsUaPyY
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Basically I think books 7-10 might be at most 2 seasons worth of TV and depending on what they trim might be a single season if they move quickly. There is a lot going on that is just dragged out that could be really condensed imo. If they're smart it'll be season 1: book 1 mostly season 2: book 2, maybe also book 3 depending on how much you condense and if you can use falme as a "mid season finale" type thing season 3: book 4 season 4: book 5 Season 5: books 6 (combine 5 and 6 here if season 3 was book 3) Season 6: book 7, 8, 9 season 7: book 11, 12 season 8: book 13, 14
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The Notorious ZSB posted:Basically I think books 7-10 might be at most 2 seasons worth of TV and depending on what they trim might be a single season if they move quickly. There is a lot going on that is just dragged out that could be really condensed imo. yeah also i feel like there are so many minor characters that get viewpoint chapters that'll just get cut entirely from a show (or be condensed down and combined)
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If they're smart it'll be Pretty sure they said Season 1 covers parts of Book 1 and 2, and even 3.
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I can't even imagine making an entire season out of book 1. I'm looking forward to all the liberties they can and will take restructuring things.
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Sab669 posted:I can't even imagine making an entire season out of book 1. I'm looking forward to all the liberties they can and will take restructuring things. Rafe's been pretty clear they're not doing a simple one/two book = one season thing. There's stuff being moved forwards, there's stuff being moved back, there's stuff bein dropped entirely, there's new stuff being added. It's going to be it's own thing.
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jng2058 posted:Rafe's been pretty clear they're not doing a simple one/two book = one season thing. There's stuff being moved forwards, there's stuff being moved back, there's stuff bein dropped entirely, there's new stuff being added. It's going to be it's own thing. Practically speaking I imagine a lot of it is to not introduce new people and locations then ignore them for multiple seasons.
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Honestly Im very excited about a WoT remix as the TV version. Adaptations should not just try to 1:1 their source material. It's part of what's made The Boys so loving good and what made Prisoner of Azkaban the best Potter film.
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