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euphronius posted:Ok now the game is good again Glad you’re having fun again fellow bball boy. Good to see your posts again.
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I need a boss health bar aaahhh
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Oct 9, 2021 03:57
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RBA Starblade posted:What? Are we just ignoring that prior to both planet kills, Samus got her rear end handed to her and had to be saved?
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Oct 9, 2021 03:58
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How do I escape this area, top right of Artaria? I was exploring after getting the charge beam. All doors leading to the right are sensor doors/blocked by indestructible shutters. All doors leading left are either blocked by shutters or have water/tunnel orientation that you can't slide out of from this direction. 
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Oct 9, 2021 03:59
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uPen posted:How do I escape this area, top right of Artaria? I was exploring after getting the charge beam. All doors leading to the right are sensor doors/blocked by indestructible shutters. Top right room has some blocks you can shoot out to get to the top and go right.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:03
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Zore posted:Top right room has some blocks you can shoot out to get to the top and go right. Ugh I shot a bunch up there looking for hidden blocks, I'll give it another sweep. Thanks.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:05
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SettingSun posted:There’s a beam-breakable block in that room that’ll open the way. ok I finally found that on like the 5th time spraying beams all over both zones. I wasn't expecting an easy block right next to one I didn't have the powerup for, both leading to the same part of a room.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:07
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A thing that irrationally annoys me: I habitually shoot the door in save rooms right as I save. In this game, they shut again when saving is complete 
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Oct 9, 2021 04:09
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TaurusOxford posted:Are we just ignoring that prior to both planet kills, Samus got her rear end handed to her and had to be saved? I remember this in Super Metroid but I don't remember it in Prime 3. At any ratethe idea that Samus should somehow be unstoppable and invincible just because she destroyed two planets is pretty hilarious.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:13
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killing the EMMIs is much more tense than avoiding them which I was not expecting
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Oct 9, 2021 04:18
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euphronius posted:I need a boss health bar aaahhh the boss bar is how many missiles you have left
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Oct 9, 2021 04:20
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Endorph posted:i think its fine, for the protagonist of a video game to come across something stronger than them. i get that other m was weird but its also weird to not allow the protagonist of a video game series to do video game protag stuff just because shes a woman. like if john master chief was told this about some new alien and the gameplay was built around getting owned by it, would anyone accuse that of being a fetish thing, lol. They weren't the poster being the one weird about Adam. I think this poster's just being steamed at the funnily dickish statement here. 
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Oct 9, 2021 04:20
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Bye bye, Kraid I think that's a good time to quit for the day.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:22
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i actually wasn't around for Other M but it must have been really bad for people to get acid flashbacks when Adam says "the enemy is strong" lol
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Oct 9, 2021 04:25
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I love all the little flourishes alluding to the earlier games: the soundtrack is chock full of them! Excellent game. Well, up until the underwater boss. That one suuucked. What a chore.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:25
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i actually wasn't around for Other M but it must have been really bad for people to get acid flashbacks when Adam says "the enemy is strong" lol Other M Adam sucks a whole lot.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:28
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Electric Phantasm posted:It's kinda concerning the space government has access to these nigh indestructible murder robots to begin with. i actually really like the concept behind the EMMI's - they're not war machines, they're state-of-the-art research and survey droids, so of course they'd be borderline indestructible because you'd need them to be if you wanted them to gather samples on a planet with fifty times earth gravity or a planet where the atmosphere was acidic gelatin or something. for that same reason, their tracking and maneuverability skills are top-notch, but they have very little in the way of combat capabilities aside from one horribly fatal move, which is really just an over-enthusiastic DNA extraction
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Oct 9, 2021 04:31
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i actually wasn't around for Other M but it must have been really bad for people to get acid flashbacks when Adam says "the enemy is strong" lol It was more along the lines of "wow that guy just kicked your rear end, ok I will allow you to use your missiles, which you had the whole time, but weren't allowed to use because I said so, to brutally murder it" It was bad Edit: in case you didn't know the way you "lost" your upgrades in that game, as opposed to like getting merked by an exploding elevator or something, was that Adam said you couldn't use your gear until he allowed it because you were too strong and you might hurt the ship It was *loving stupid*
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Oct 9, 2021 04:37
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Feels Villeneuve posted:killing the EMMIs is much more tense than avoiding them which I was not expecting Find somewhere with enough of a vantage point, just keep shooting and hope the faceplate melts while deciding if you need to run and start over... yeah. I had one of them come at me from a different direction for the final shot, and a LOT faster than I was expecting. Watching the hallway and suddenly it pops up from below, I shriek and fire the killing shot. You can't script a moment like that,
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Oct 9, 2021 04:40
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oh, okay, I found the bullshit part of the game the underwater boss can officially kiss my rear end
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Oct 9, 2021 04:40
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got the gravity suit, gonna stop for the night. the game continues to be sick as hell. the purple emmi can eat a dick tho Feels Villeneuve posted:i actually wasn't around for Other M but it must have been really bad for people to get acid flashbacks when Adam says "the enemy is strong" lol lol
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Oct 9, 2021 04:41
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man that's like the one boss I didn't have issues on lol. all the others have kicked my rear end
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Oct 9, 2021 04:41
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The enemies and bosses hit like trucks in this game. One of the sub-bosses shot me with a piddly looking bullet for 60 damage.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:42
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Blaziken386 posted:oh, okay, I found the bullshit part of the game it took me way too long to notice the big red buttons but once I figured that out it was like the easiest boss so far
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Oct 9, 2021 04:43
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Samus has been cursed with an AI companion who's says the world's most obvious poo poo
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Oct 9, 2021 04:43
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Bruceski posted:Find somewhere with enough of a vantage point, just keep shooting and hope the faceplate melts while deciding if you need to run and start over... yeah. The one in the partially flooded zone was cool because the "solution" was figuring out that it will walk on ceilings toward you too
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Oct 9, 2021 04:43
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Lemming posted:It was more along the lines of "wow that guy just kicked your rear end, ok I will allow you to use your missiles, which you had the whole time, but weren't allowed to use because I said so, to brutally murder it" The timing of the Varia Suit still baffles me. Not immediately as she enters the really hot area, but when she's about to be swallowed up by a massive magma fish. Her AC unit shouldn't affect the ship or anyone around her so why even restrict it?
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Oct 9, 2021 04:46
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Electric Phantasm posted:The timing of the Varia Suit still baffles me. Not immediately as she enters the really hot area, but when she's about to be swallowed up by a massive magma fish. iirc this was a localization issue. in the original japanese samus waits to activate the varia out of raw spite which is dumb in a different way, really
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Oct 9, 2021 04:48
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I have played an absurd amount today and it truly feels like Metroid now, because I can handily murder every single regular enemy all over the large and intricate map, but I have no loving clue where I’m supposed to go next. That’s the true Metroid experience.
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Oct 9, 2021 04:51
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Finished the game, game was good. Only minor complaint is that the boss health pools seemed to be tuned for countering, so you can be good at countering and see the exact same "counter" cinematic a bunch or you can be bad at it and take all day and night whittling the boss to death until the last one that seems to have a hard invulnerability at set damage between P1 and P2 that requires you to counter him through it lol Bosses overall were rough but the runback time was nonexistent so it was the fun kind of rough learning them all. Underwater boss was fine too imo, although that was one I countered pretty well and it only took a couple cycles so if you shaved it down the entire way that'd probably suck way more EMMIs were an interesting idea but the core fights got samey fast and I don't really get what the motivation for the over the shoulder kill mechanic was (in the sense of it being a complete control scheme switchup for like 2 minutes total across the whole of the game, just wanted to show off that the 2.5D game was truly 3D?), although I at least appreciated the gentle reminder of "how to do it" to get out of the rooms before you had to use it for real
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Oct 9, 2021 04:55
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Feels Villeneuve posted:killing the EMMIs is much more tense than avoiding them which I was not expecting Yeah making them not turn into like an arena boss fight was a good move. Every little slip of your targeting when they change positions makes you sweat a little and wonder if you gave yourself enough room.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:EMMIs were an interesting idea but the core fights got samey fast and I don't really get what the motivation for the over the shoulder kill mechanic was (in the sense of it being a complete control scheme switchup for like 2 minutes total across the whole of the game, just wanted to show off that the 2.5D game was truly 3D?), although I at least appreciated the gentle reminder of "how to do it" to get out of the rooms before you had to use it for real My guess is the camera change is to give you a much farther view of the area, making it much more tense to watch the EMMI slowly walk up to you as you hammer on it.
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Oct 9, 2021 05:00
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Electric Phantasm posted:The timing of the Varia Suit still baffles me. Not immediately as she enters the really hot area, but when she's about to be swallowed up by a massive magma fish. which would actually be a cool sequence in a better story
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Oct 9, 2021 05:01
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Amppelix posted:yeah the intended effect here was that samus was like "well you didn't tell me to use my varia suit so here i am trucking through the hell zone completely exposed" until adam finally gives in and yells at her to do it I think you need a lot cockier, a lot more sarcastic, or a lot more obedient. of a main character for that. Samus is too much of a consummate professional to fit either of those three categories.
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Oct 9, 2021 05:04
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Feels Villeneuve posted:i actually wasn't around for Other M but it must have been really bad for people to get acid flashbacks when Adam says "the enemy is strong" lol Electric Phantasm posted:Other M Adam sucks a whole lot. Lemming posted:It was more along the lines of "wow that guy just kicked your rear end, ok I will allow you to use your missiles, which you had the whole time, but weren't allowed to use because I said so, to brutally murder it" Electric Phantasm posted:The timing of the Varia Suit still baffles me. Not immediately as she enters the really hot area, but when she's about to be swallowed up by a massive magma fish. Oxxidation posted:iirc this was a localization issue. in the original japanese samus waits to activate the varia out of raw spite Amppelix posted:yeah the intended effect here was that samus was like "well you didn't tell me to use my varia suit so here i am trucking through the hell zone completely exposed" until adam finally gives in and yells at her to do it 
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Oct 9, 2021 05:06
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Amppelix posted:yeah the intended effect here was that samus was like "well you didn't tell me to use my varia suit so here i am trucking through the hell zone completely exposed" until adam finally gives in and yells at her to do it From what I understand, that's kind of how it happens in the orignal Japanese script and the localization kind of hosed it up. However, all I'm gonna say about Other M in this thread is that I'm the kind of guy that can forgive a laughably bad plot as long as the game itself is fun. I couldn't forgive Other M.
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Oct 9, 2021 05:10
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How is aiming on the joy cons? On the pro controller you have to aim right/left then up or down or it moves way too quickly.
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Oct 9, 2021 05:16
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yeah that's what i meant but even the original script isn't good enough to carry a scene like that
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Oct 9, 2021 05:16
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I only have the charge beam, no morph ball. Am I missing something?  Right, sliding.
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This game really likes hidden blocks. If you're softlocked it's because they really want you to shoot at anything suspicious before letting you go free
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