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Oct 9, 2021 23:27
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:something about grappling just breaks my brain where I keep automatically releasing ZR instead of Y, I don't know if it's made better or worse by the fact that there's very little actual required grapple swinging going on unless you choose to backtrack before getting more mobility options Especially after you've used L to aim more precisely and now you're holding three buttons and need to think about which ones to let go, lol
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Oct 9, 2021 23:27
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Twelve by Pies posted:So after playing around with the grapple beam a bit I'm not sure where to go, there don't seem to be any grapple beam doors or boxes that'll take me to a new area. Don't really need a hint yet, I'll bumble around for a while more, but as I've been doing so it's something you get rather late in the game
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Oct 9, 2021 23:30
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Fusion had more stringent plot-related locking and significant area changes, wheras removing some of the backtrack-locking stuff here in the forms of "a bit of rubble", "a couple of plants", and "some doors that have the power turned off because of a switch" would probably solve a large number of the traversal issues most randomizers build up a graph based on what items can be accessed where and then shuffle the item placements. trying to change some of the backtracking logic stuff in dread is like asking the someone to make new rooms in super metroid for the purpose of the randomizer. that's much harder and something the prime randomizers have only recently come up with.
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Oct 9, 2021 23:31
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:There should be an inviting-looking toothy grin shortly outside and to the left of where you get the morph ball It's a hot area, don't have the varia suit
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Oct 9, 2021 23:33
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Was going to reply to this earlier and got distracted, sorry-- trying to avoid spoilers but have you found and completed the area Elun yet? If you have, then all you need to do is kill the EMMI in Ghavoran, and if not then you'll want to loop back around towards the bottom right of Ghavoran to find the transport there ...Okay I'm REALLY missing a step then. The last power-ups I got were the Grapple Beam and the Radar.
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lets hang out posted:its kind of a pain in the rear end to get around collecting things at the end of the game thanks to their habit of permanently closing passageways behind you, and the teleports aren't really distributed in a way that makes any sense The teleports aren’t really fast travel they are more designed points so you can keep progressing
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Calaveron posted:It's a hot area, don't have the varia suit Second door above the hot door PlasticAutomaton posted:...Okay I'm REALLY missing a step then. The last power-ups I got were the Grapple Beam and the Radar. I'm going to have to get back to you because it sounds like you found the radar a bit earlier than was intended by the game tbh, I'm in the middle of a replay and my broken brain is demanding that grapple beam comes before kraid for the bombs for the quickkill so I know that ain't fuckin right Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Oct 9, 2021 |
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Oct 9, 2021 23:42
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Oct 9, 2021 23:51
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Since I don’t have the money to buy this I decided to replay Super instead. It’s been probably ten years since I played it and I barely remember half of it. Just got the speed booster and am thoroughly enjoying it. Probably because I haven’t had to wall jump at all.
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Oct 9, 2021 23:53
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Ah okay, good to know I need a new item, I thought I was going to have to do some crazy pixel perfect shinespark stuff. By the way, thanks to whoever said that you keep speed boost if you wall jump and slide! Knowing that means I was able to grab the Missle+ tank in Dairon that requires you to do multiple wall jumps and a slide, pulling that off felt so incredibly satisfying. I thought I had to wait until I could open the green doors for that one. It didn't take me too long to figure out where to go from the grapple beam, I quit right after the Chozo Robot fight so I forgot that bird boy said "I will open a path for you." It doesn't get marked on your map so unless you go there right away it's easy to forget that's where you're supposed to go. Which I did.  Kinda wish there was an icon there or something but I guess I could've placed a marker there myself. I'll have to remember that in case this sort of thing happens again.I also just fought the underwater boss, I actually beat it on my third try, it hit like a truck but thanks to a goon saying that on the first boss you can counter the tail whip after sliding through, I figured that there'd be a similar mechanic in this fight, and noticed the tentacle flash right after you shoot the eye a few times that lets you counter and get in a bunch more missile shots. But I can imagine that if someone didn't notice that it would definitely be a way harder fight.
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Oct 9, 2021 23:58
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Final boss was really good, probably my favorite Metroid series boss. I also really liked the art design in some of the areas, especially the underwater aquarium one. Good stuff. no Ridley tho 
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Oct 10, 2021 00:01
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Rand Brittain posted:I think the game is fairly responsive in terms of "Samus does things in reponse to your lightest input," but they feel a bit clunky in that they frequently involve using more buttons than is comfortable for many people. I just got the grapple beam and I think I have to agree with it. The game plays really nice but some of the combinations you need to do to do stuff kinda blow imo.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:10
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Lovin everything about the game. Got up to a story dump and the new elite grunt guys the just introduced are a pain in the loving rear end!!!
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Oct 10, 2021 00:16
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56% completion. What a great last boss, and a drat good videogame. Mercury Steam has earned my confidence - give them the go to remake Super. 
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Oct 10, 2021 00:18
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No remake of Super will live up to anyone's expectations. They should go with their original vision and remake Fusion though. That would be neat.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:19
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Really feels like they wanted to do one more zone. You get the last upgrade and just have nothing to do with it
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Oct 10, 2021 00:25
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SettingSun posted:No remake of Super will live up to anyone's expectations. They should go with their original vision and remake Fusion though. That would be neat. The only expectations I want for a Super remake is it have the snappier movement of future titles and less aged controls. I also admittedly don't have much nostalgia for Super as I played the GBA/Prime games first and overall find them all to be superior experiences. Granted, a remake of Fusion would also be awesome. I'm just confident that Mercury Steam could do Super's legacy justice.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:26
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SettingSun posted:No remake of Super will live up to anyone's expectations. They should go with their original vision and remake Fusion though. That would be neat. Yeah I dunno if Super really needs a remake. Well, not having Select be an Item Toggle would be nice but that's about it
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Oct 10, 2021 00:26
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Does the final boss require some new gimmick to do damage after the first counter cutscene? He's no-selling all of my attacks (as he already did) but the shield doesn't look like it's changing color like it did before.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:28
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Bruceski posted:Does the final boss require some new gimmick to do damage after the first counter cutscene? He's no-selling all of my attacks (as he already did) but the shield doesn't look like it's changing color like it did before. when he starts taunting you, do a dashing melee attack to trigger another counter cutscene. It seems like shooting him with enough missiles with force him to taunt you as well
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Oct 10, 2021 00:30
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Bruceski posted:Does the final boss require some new gimmick to do damage after the first counter cutscene? He's no-selling all of my attacks (as he already did) but the shield doesn't look like it's changing color like it did before. You have to parry him to open him up. If he taunts you and then stands there menacingly, run up to him and be ready to parry. You can also parry his dash attack where he covers the entire floor.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:30
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Tbh Fusion, Super and Zero Mission are all fine as they are and don't need remaking - and we have AM2R so there's no need to redo Samus Returns on a real console. I'd much rather the series continue than remake the old ones. Just port them all onto Switch.
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Bruceski posted:Does the final boss require some new gimmick to do damage after the first counter cutscene? He's no-selling all of my attacks (as he already did) but the shield doesn't look like it's changing color like it did before. Once the shield goes yellow he's immune to all damage until you counter him into the next phase, also once he's yellow he'll make a "come here" taunt every once in awhile that you can dash-counter into to force the issue TaurusOxford posted:You can also parry his dash attack where he covers the entire floor. You don't even have to "parry" that per se-- as long as you take no damage from it by crouching or balling it counts as a "parry" and triggers the counter cutscene
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Oct 10, 2021 00:30
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To add to that, you have to melee to start the sequence and then again as it starts. You can shoot missiles during the cutscene. You have to do it twice to do enough damage.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:31
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I thought Super was cumbersome in like 2007, I can’t imagine it feels good in 2021. I also am someone started the series with Fusion though so that might be part of it.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:32
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stev posted:Tbh Fusion, Super and Zero Mission are all fine as they are and don't need remaking - and we have AM2R so there's no need to redo Samus Returns on a real console. I'd much rather the series continue than remake the old ones. I mean the amount of people who play fan games are pretty small
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Oct 10, 2021 00:37
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I personally don't have a problem with the controls, but I feel like this game could've definitely benefitted from multiple control schemes. It's much better than Samus Returns solely because there's more buttons and no obligation to use a touch screen. KidDynamite posted:beat the game in 9:04 and 43% clear. Had a great time with it, but I felt the bosses were a little overtuned and that samus never got to feel powerful to me. Which is lame for a game where you find stuff to make you powerful. reminded me of fusion and that's my favorite Metroid. Good game A+ hope they pump another one out in like 3-4 years. (it'll never happen, but it would be nice to see a remaster of fusion or super as well. or maybe a port of samus returns with reconfigured controls. I know the switch is already primarily a port machine, but I'm fine with that TBH)
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Oct 10, 2021 00:42
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Isn't Prime 4 coming soon? I remember a year ago or so they were hiring boss designers.
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Why is Kraid so hard? He's supposed to be a fat little chonker who wiggles his fingers threateningly at you and then dies!
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Blaziken386 posted:I personally don't have a problem with the controls, but I feel like this game could've definitely benefitted from multiple control schemes. I mean it's only been 4 years since samus returns, and that's including a cross-platform conversion of the engine, so....maybe? yes I know it's metroid and this is all we get this decade
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Spermando posted:Isn't Prime 4 coming soon? I remember a year ago or so they were hiring boss designers. It's almost 3 years since they restarted development so... maybe 1-2 more? CharlestheHammer posted:I mean the amount of people who play fan games are pretty small Then Nintendo should bite the bullet and accept AM2R with open arms.  It'd be much easier to port than Samus Returns anyway.
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Oct 10, 2021 00:47
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Yeah I dunno if Super really needs a remake. I always put the item toggle on the X button and used Select for cancel, it just feels better to swap with the same hand you're shooting with, whereas canceling is usually done when you're not fighting anything so taking your thumb off the d pad isn't as big a deal. Spermando posted:Isn't Prime 4 coming soon? I remember a year ago or so they were hiring boss designers. Yes, Soon™
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I doubt they will do a remake next, they are probably figuring out what 6 is gonna be
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Okay at this point I feel dumb like I've had to miss something really obvious. Goons, I really need direction. Current Loadout: Wide/Diffusion/Grapple Beams Missiles Phantom Cloak/Flash Shift/Pulse Radar Varia Suit Morph Ball Spider Magnet/Speed Booster Been scouring the map from top to bottom and I'm out of clues. Cold areas, double jump required stuff, and those weird red plants block every single point of access I have left and I'm out of options. I have to have missed SOMETHING. Do you need to the double jump to get into the EMMI zone in Ferenia right after the elevator? Three's a Flash Shift shutter with no level ground to stand on in front of it just past the grapple puzzle and I can't clear it.
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Okay at this point I feel dumb like I've had to miss something really obvious. Goons, I really need direction. Looks like you need to head to Ghavoran and get your Super Missiles
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Oct 10, 2021 01:00
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Im at item cleanup phase, and jeeze some of these speed booster puzzles kick my rear end. Also salty gamer hot take: Some of these bosses do way too much damage. Game is solid for the most part. Excited to see speed runs.
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Oct 10, 2021 01:08
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Oxyclean posted:Excited to see speed runs. Speedruns are already underway - there's already a sub - 2 hour any% run from yesterday.
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Oxyclean posted:Also salty gamer hot take: Some of these bosses do way too much damage. Yeah I can't imagine how hard mode is, I went into the underwater boss with 6 energy tanks and it was able to kill me in like four or five hits.
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