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balls deep on break week level discussion and the official chapter hasnt even dropped yet, this is gonna be a rough two weeks i can feel it
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We can talk about other shonen series in the meantime, if like that. What’s everyone been reading besides One Piece? Witch Watch and Sakamoto Days are really good, I look forward to them almost as much as OP. 
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Oct 10, 2021 15:09
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Endorph posted:'the databook stuff makes it seem like oda might move in a disappointing direction with their character?' Yamato kicks rear end with whatever pronouns though. But I understand the disappointment. It's unfortunately tone-deaf of Oda to play it as a joke.
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Oct 10, 2021 15:26
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Chapter is officially out: https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1010002
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Oct 10, 2021 16:02
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The most  chapter in a while.
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Oct 10, 2021 16:36
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I dunno what you mean man, nothing really stood out as abnormal. If the Brachocoilus thing threw you off then maybe you need to hit up a museum idk.
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Oct 10, 2021 16:48
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Queen is such a freak. Also the WG just casually gonna try and seize the country on top of every old thing. One wonders how many admirals are on that fleet.
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Oct 10, 2021 16:50
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the obvious answer to Sanji's situation is the black raid suit having nanomachines 
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Oct 10, 2021 17:41
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Caidin posted:Queen is such a freak. Oooh didn’t even occur to me this might be a good time to see the Green Bull guy for the first time. It’s crazy to me we are this late into the story and there’s still unrevealed characters
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Oct 10, 2021 17:55
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Queen is so good. One of Oda's unexpected skills is making excellent use of animals with very long necks.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:21
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*D&D Commentary* So on their way to Wano, the WG and CP0 kinda forgot about Big Mom and her fleet.
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Oct 10, 2021 18:27
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if the baseless fan theory that green bull is the same guy that helped yamato in the prison cave and is also theorized to be zoros dad, then this would probably be the best way to introduce him. if theres no green bull on those ships, then we can put all of that to bed on the spot. though fwiw i do think its possible, we just have nothing to go by other than some tangental "doesnt eat" stuff, some sketchy timelines and if hes zoros dad then hes probably got green hair to go with being green bull. whom knows
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Oct 10, 2021 18:53
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gently caress me, how does this arc even end? They've been technically fighting for Wano since the New World began, and they obviously can't leave it for the Marines. Maybe they just absolutely clown on them and they have to run back to Marine HQ. What's even the alternative that doesn't undercut Luffy's victory?
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Oct 10, 2021 19:23
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:gently caress me, how does this arc even end? They've been technically fighting for Wano since the New World began, and they obviously can't leave it for the Marines. Maybe they just absolutely clown on them and they have to run back to Marine HQ. What's even the alternative that doesn't undercut Luffy's victory? i think vegapunk shows up and sides with the strawhats
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Oct 10, 2021 19:26
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If Vegapunk shows up, I'm popping off.
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Oct 10, 2021 19:29
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There's always the classic "Blackbeard shows up and ruins everything for everyone".
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Oct 10, 2021 19:31
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orochi is gonna get what he wished for, just not how he wanted imo: the only way they could probably take down a yonko is with whatever new thing vegapunk developed. i think that maybe they were on route already and changed plans.
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Oct 10, 2021 19:32
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Would be a good time for the straw hat armada to come through
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Oct 10, 2021 19:55
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We had a video game cover but the most powerful reference is Yamato “Okami” running around in full wolf god mode.
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Oct 10, 2021 19:59
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Did the WG orget that Big Mom is there too? There's more than just 1 yonkou to deal with in Wano
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Oct 10, 2021 20:22
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Big Mom originally went to Wano to get Luffy, right? The WG could probably be operating under that assumption.
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Oct 10, 2021 20:32
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Yeah I don't think most of them know the specifics of what's been happening.
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Oct 10, 2021 20:33
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I like that Oda has taken the opportunity with Dinosaurs to just make up whatever the hell he wants regarding what they can do. Triceratops fly? Of Course! Brachiosaurus have detachable head? You bet! Who is going to prove him wrong? They have been extinct for millions of years!
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Oct 10, 2021 21:32
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I'm pretty sure I remember World Government freaking out at the potential Big Mom-Kaido alliance. It was a while back though so I don't remember what exactly got out, but CP0 is basically getting a live update on the casualties in this battle. With that level of intelligence, I think they know about Big Mom's role in all this.
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Oct 10, 2021 21:55
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oddium posted:when the wg moves in yamato is going to stay behind to defend wano as its protector. i take no pleasure in reporting this It'd be better if he learned from Oden's mistake and left with the Strawhats so he could come back later with reinforcements.
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Oct 10, 2021 22:47
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Brandfarlig posted:Yamato kicks rear end with whatever pronouns though. I agree that he kicks rear end. But regardless of Yamato's gender identification, his pronouns are he/him. I think this should be uncontroversial considering his disposition within the Beast Pirates and being referred to as the Son of Kaido, despite whatever indications a databook has.
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Oct 10, 2021 22:56
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can't believe lucci continues to underestimate Luffy
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Oct 11, 2021 00:00
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Tir McDohl posted:I agree that he kicks rear end. But regardless of Yamato's gender identification, his pronouns are he/him. I think this should be uncontroversial considering his disposition within the Beast Pirates and being referred to as the Son of Kaido, despite whatever indications a databook has. This hasn't happened, and I'm not going to assume it happens, but I couldn't fault someone for emotionally defending against that kind of twist, because it would be really lovely and I really don't have faith that Oda won't pull something as bad as that.
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Oct 11, 2021 01:27
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yamato coming to a "realization" that he has to be himself and carve his own path in life and reverting back to she/her pronouns in the wake of this is imho just as likely as any other outcome, unfortunately
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Oct 11, 2021 02:39
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If it happens I imagine it'll be less a "realization" and more "Now that my job is done, I no longer need to adhere to the role of 'Oden' " Which would also go with the whole theoretically-still-present kabuki theater framing, maybe?
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Oct 11, 2021 04:14
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Tir McDohl posted:I agree that he kicks rear end. But regardless of Yamato's gender identification, his pronouns are he/him. I think this should be uncontroversial considering his disposition within the Beast Pirates and being referred to as the Son of Kaido, despite whatever indications a databook has. The databook only says that Yamtao is biologically female, but we will call Yamato he/him until they say otherwise in the story. People have taken that one bit of info in a really gross way, which weirdly enough they aren't doing for Kiku which I don't get at all even though it's the exact same situation.
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Oct 11, 2021 05:05
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Asuron posted:The databook only says that Yamtao is biologically female, but we will call Yamato he/him until they say otherwise in the story. Yamato was not described as having the heart of a man or anything like that, just that he's biologically female, hence people's trepidation as to where Oda is going with this character. Assholes in other online communities apparently leapt on the distinction to reach... hugely disrespectful conclusions. But in this thread the negative reaction was purely concern for the perceived increased possibility that Oda will bungle this potentially positive trans representation. At least that's how I recall how the discussion went.
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Oct 11, 2021 05:19
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Since the goal of the scabbards is to do what Oden wanted with his last words, "open up Wano's borders" maybe the WG coming in isn't that bad? Like joining them is probably the quickest way to open up the border and with an emperor on their side (Luffy) they're in a good position to negotiate a good deal the WG might accept because it's easier than starting a war.
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Oct 11, 2021 09:13
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Eiba posted:If I understand this issue correctly, it's actually the exact opposite situation for Kiku. As I understand it Kiku was categorized as biologically male with the "heart of a woman," which, it has been explained, is about as respectful a term for a trans woman there is in Japanese. Yeah that's my understanding too. It's incredibly uncomfortable to see so many people out there ignoring the character's pronouns, to justify their attraction to someone who has breasts but identifies as a man. I know it sounds petty but at this point I want Yamato to (ultimately) identify as anything but a cishet woman. Just to spite those who insist on misgendering him.
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Oct 11, 2021 09:24
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Man with Hat posted:Since the goal of the scabbards is to do what Oden wanted with his last words, "open up Wano's borders" maybe the WG coming in isn't that bad? Like joining them is probably the quickest way to open up the border and with an emperor on their side (Luffy) they're in a good position to negotiate a good deal the WG might accept because it's easier than starting a war. Even if the Marines rocked up with Koby and Smoker* representing them, Luffy would probably still resist any attempt to let them establish a presence in Wano. The Pirate King doesn't negotiate with the WG. If any such agreement is made, it'll be done with Luffy's strong opposition. (*I'm leaving out Garp because regardless of the circumstances I fully expect Luffy to lay into him the first opportunity he gets)
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Oct 11, 2021 09:34
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Asuron posted:The databook only says that Yamtao is biologically female, but we will call Yamato he/him until they say otherwise in the story. queen gender: male kiku gender: male (heart of a woman) yamato gender: female its worth noting that while you can make the distinction between gender and sex in japanese, the word they're using in that book encompasses both, hence the 'heart of a woman' note for kiku instead of just listing her as gender: female. the lack of such a note for yamato implies theyre as female as queen is male. of course its possible the story will go a different way with yamato and oda is just too dense to realize trans men exist, but still, it's canonical information that is sending a certain signal. Endorph fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Oct 11, 2021 |
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Oct 11, 2021 09:48
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Tir McDohl posted:But regardless of Yamato's gender identification, his pronouns are X/X  Imagine pulling this kind of statement when talking about a real life person.
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Oct 11, 2021 10:58
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Man with Hat posted:Since the goal of the scabbards is to do what Oden wanted with his last words, "open up Wano's borders" maybe the WG coming in isn't that bad? Like joining them is probably the quickest way to open up the border and with an emperor on their side (Luffy) they're in a good position to negotiate a good deal the WG might accept because it's easier than starting a war.
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Oct 11, 2021 11:01
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Would it really be good for Wano to join the WG? My understanding so far is that it’s a country that’s pretty closely linked to the “enemies of God” that made the poneglyphs and other anti-WG/void century artefacts. Surely the WG would subjugate Wano just as brutally as Kaido did?
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rannum posted:If it happens I imagine it'll be less a "realization" and more "Now that my job is done, I no longer need to adhere to the role of 'Oden' " Yeah but that would still be like “Yamato wasn’t really a man and was just playing pretend” which is still not a good resolution.
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