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so how exactly is an anarchistic court of law supposed to operate again?
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lollontee posted:so how exactly is an anarchistic court of law supposed to operate again? if the village thinks a woman has slept with the devil, they're allowed to drown her
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lollontee posted:so how exactly is an anarchistic court of law supposed to operate again? "All jury, no judge" sounds fitting
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https://twitter.com/andraydomise/status/1447083204922519554 I see that robert evans has also weighed in on all of this lmfao.
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for the first time in my posting career, i am not joking. im asking if the study of law and it's application exists as an academic subject of study in anarchist theory?
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Oct 10, 2021 18:08
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oh, wait. oh.... now i get it
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so thats why
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it’s a shame Robert Evans is alive
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indigi posted:it’s a shame Robert Evans is alive maybe Emily G can program a drone to hunt him down? that'd be true anarchist theory in action
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lollontee posted:so how exactly is an anarchistic court of law supposed to operate again? unlike authortarian tankies that have "justice systems" and "gulags that people get out of regularly", basically if enough people start screaming at you, you get exiled from the commune and left to die, or maybe you go like successful anarchist project CHAZ route and just shoot black teenagers who are assumed to be tankies or whatever. its like twitter but people die if they get cancelled hard enough. this isn't authoritarian
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Oct 10, 2021 20:47
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indigi posted:it’s a shame Robert Evans is alive 
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hot witch divorcee posted:unlike authortarian tankies that have "justice systems" and "gulags that people get out of regularly", basically if enough people start screaming at you, you get exiled from the commune and left to die, or maybe you go like successful anarchist project CHAZ route and just shoot black teenagers who are assumed to be tankies or whatever. its like twitter but people die if they get cancelled hard enough. this isn't authoritarian this is basically the secret ruling class in seminal classic of social commentary, Zardoz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjCkISrJfQ
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zardoz will be a documentary
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goldman sachs's nefarious plot to prevent a land war in asia
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lollontee posted:zardoz will be a documentary making america choose between guns and cock would not go well, imo
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have anarchists always just been a rebrand of conventional liberal foreign policy preferences or is this a new thing? genuine question
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Best Friends posted:have anarchists always just been a rebrand of conventional liberal foreign policy preferences or is this a new thing? genuine question it's part of it and always has been, because challenging existing power structures is authoritarian and you would never want to do that. in the modern United States at least it's also become a convenient label for those who want to consider themselves left-wing (in the sense of "opposed to violent excesses of capitalism against the working class") but are not willing to consider the consequences of what that would really mean, because it would involve exercising power and conceptualizing the state beyond "something that is bad". the natural outgrowth of this is that anarchists in the west seek to define themselves as opposed to something and so look to foreign "authoritarians" as a target of their ire; they grow up in propaganda telling them dictator foreign name is bad and their own ideology tells them power is bad so wow that dictator guy must be super bad, and it's good that someone is doing something about it. that the someone here is the capitalist genocide state they claim to oppose doesn't factor in, because the anarchist is not capable of critical thinking nor object permanence this is how you get people like Emily G who consider it a virtue to have sold their labor to the fascist genocide state while also claiming to support "anarchism" which when it boils down to it just means "I'm free to murder black teens because im too online"
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Best Friends posted:have anarchists always just been a rebrand of conventional liberal foreign policy preferences or is this a new thing? genuine question in addition to what mbf said it's ramping up like crazy and will continue to because there's nothing an anarchist hates more than "tankies" and they all view china as tankies: the country
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this is also because they're incredibly racist
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how loving stupid do you have to be to still be doing "abolish ICE" in 2021 without realizing that you're not getting anywhere it's like a forums sig at this point
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my bony fealty posted:it's part of it and always has been, because challenging existing power structures is authoritarian and you would never want to do that. in the modern United States at least it's also become a convenient label for those who want to consider themselves left-wing (in the sense of "opposed to violent excesses of capitalism against the working class") but are not willing to consider the consequences of what that would really mean, because it would involve exercising power and conceptualizing the state beyond "something that is bad". the natural outgrowth of this is that anarchists in the west seek to define themselves as opposed to something and so look to foreign "authoritarians" as a target of their ire; they grow up in propaganda telling them dictator foreign name is bad and their own ideology tells them power is bad so wow that dictator guy must be super bad, and it's good that someone is doing something about it.
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my bony fealty posted:this is how you get people like Emily G who consider it a virtue to have sold their labor to the fascist genocide state while also claiming to support "anarchism" which when it boils down to it just means "I'm free to murder black teens because im too online" Emma Goldman did what
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eSporks posted:None of the people I know that I know who identify as anarchist think like this. Do they proudly brand themselves with the Iron Front logo? What's their plan for actually changing anything they purport to oppose? It's rarely put out in such terms but there's no two ways to pretend stuff like mutual aid or CHOP is revolutionary
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american anarchists are obsessed with individual morality as the main driver of human history, which is why american anarchism is simply another form of liberalism. it stands to reason that they'd support military intervention in "authoritarian" countries, since the problem Over There is that the guy in charge has poor moral fiber and that's why the citizenry isnt permitted to run crypto farms that burn the same amount of coal as fiji. as with every anarchist project, its important that someone else does the actual work, so they're happy to leave it to the state military apparatus to solve
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"anarchists love military intervention because they're so racist" is an.... interesting take tf is wrong with you people
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pnac attack posted:"anarchists love military intervention because they're so racist" is an.... interesting take prove me wrong kids,
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lol, don reading pnac 3 years before this thread
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eSporks posted:None of the people I know that I know who identify as anarchist think like this. they might be salvageable leftists who call themselves anarchists because it's more respectable in liberal society. tell them to read Lenin
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pnac attack posted:"anarchists love military intervention because they're so racist" is an.... interesting take as far as I can tell you aren’t even a principled anarchist, you’re just a misanthropic child
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indigi posted:as far as I can tell you aren’t even a principled anarchist, you’re just a misanthropic child the only True Anarchists are the ones you can own on twitter
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I spent a lot of time in this thread defending anarchism (which I considered myself, at least ancom), because I feel/felt like the characterization given to them was wrong. After all, I did not consider myself racist/liberal. I was pro-venezuela/cuba/latin america in general, but felt that the USSR and China were both 'authoritarian' and unjust states, and couldn't understand why other leftists supported them. Even stuff like the hong kong protests looked like a country simply trying to tighten its grip on people who didn't want to be part of them. It took folks coming forward in this thread and explaining things well to break me out of it. In my opinion, the vast vast majority of 'anarchists' are people like myself, who grew up being fed a steady and unrelenting diet of capitalist propaganda, which demonizes socialist countries. That's pretty much the long and short of it. Simply not knowing any better when there's this giant machine whose purpose is to make this so doesn't make these people all evil or beyond saving. I would say that a lot of people consider themselves """"anarchists"""" because that is the 'acceptable' leftist label these days, and does not actually give much insight into what they believe. I have never met an """anarchist""" in real life who believed the things that are decried in this thread. Now, having said that: holy poo poo some of these people on twitter. Please continue dunking on them because they absolutely deserve it
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pnac attack posted:the only True Anarchists are the ones you can own on twitter well duh. we don't own them, though; we manage them through centralized planning for the common good. on twitter.
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Epic High Five posted:Do they proudly brand themselves with the Iron Front logo? What's their plan for actually changing anything they purport to oppose? It's rarely put out in such terms but there's no two ways to pretend stuff like mutual aid or CHOP is revolutionary Others see Anarchism as a far off end goal with intermediary steps in between. Some admit it only works small scale and try to build communities within the current system. All of them challenge capitalism. None of them are deluded enough to think dictatorship is the only form of authoritarianism. No they don't have a plan for a revolution. It is sort of more about personal ethos. I think any change they believe in is a cultural one. Kaedric posted:Now, having said that: holy poo poo some of these people on twitter. Please continue dunking on them because they absolutely deserve it eSporks has issued a correction as of 15:25 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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my bony fealty posted:they might be salvageable leftists who call themselves anarchists because it's more respectable in liberal society. tell them to read Lenin my experiences with anarchists are largely like this, either they're some form of marxist that wants to be more palatable to people around them, or they're radlibs that simp for regime change against "tankie" "authoritarians"
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