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I have a dumb headcanon that Imperial contractors classify things weirdly in some cases because that's more lucrative or attractive to the generals and moffs signing the contracts. Case in point the TX -225 GAVw Occupier "Tank" A treaded vehicle with a broad cargo bed that runs about 2/3rds of its length and is shown transporting cargo. This is a treaded cargo vehicle, a space duece and a half half-track. Those are probably cheap clone wars surp blasters they knew weren't going to do anything without being able to traverse left and right they put on there to say it had "category whatever" armament and therefore qualified as a Heavy Armored Vehicle for Moff Dickhead's tank fetish. The guy on the pintle machine blaster is more dangerous than those fixed big bois. Some colonel adjutant knowing that Moff Dickhead just wants to spam tanks but that the army would need something to actually ferry cargo and men said "wow what a wonderful tank lets order a few hundred million." Amusingly one of the most fun/effective things to do in the mini game where it has a troop transport ability is run it as a technical with an e-web in the back. Really if you just imagine what "Imperial Procurement" is like with people promoted for political and ideological reasons to obscene levels of power you can make sense of anything. "I want it to be 8 stories tall and have LEGS" "Legs? For a troop transport?" "Yes, LEGS, and as the viceprefect with the emperor's ear you'd better give it four and make it look like a robot elephant!" Real Pentagon Wars Bradley Design By Committee poo poo.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 16:04 |
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drat,I forgot to mention the First Order AT-AT dropship. But as far as I can tell, there is only one shot of it, a still from the movie, nothing else exists, but it looks pretty badass:
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 16:06 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:Case in point the TX -225 GAVw Occupier "Tank" It would probably be good at strafing infantry across a large, flat battlefield. You know, the complete opposite of "occupying" a city. Edit: so many poor troopers would get their shins blasted. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 11, 2021 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:And I don't know why, but I love this ridiculous slug. It goes up, it goes down. The heat generated by its repulsors is enough to melt anything under it if it stays in one spot for too long and it has two huge guns which it can only aim by rotating it's entire fuselage. I'm not sure if it's still canonical, and this is a deep cut, but The Empire Strikes Back cassette radio drama elaborates on how the AT-ATs got onto Hoth. Basically they were Warhammer-Battlemech-whatever-style drop pods that landed beyond the Echo Base shield.
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# ? Oct 11, 2021 16:19 |
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I do like the idea of most Imperial equipment being mass produced and cheap but also totally unsuited for the specific job that it's meant for. Sadly, just kinda bolting fixed, forward-facing guns to vehicles is just kind of a thing that a lot of people do when trying to add some Star Wars aesthetic, which is one thing if it's on a fast-moving maneuverable flying vehicle, but it's useless on something slower. It's weird, since A New Hope has that whole scene about how it's cool to have turrets with a full range of coverage protecting you while you make a getaway. I guess it just takes more work to add a swivel turret with a full range of motion than it does to just stick some cannons on the front.
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 01:39 |
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I'm feeling that tartovsky starkiller. The game devs said the reason for his weird reverse grip is they wanted the player to have a good peep at the glowstick.
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 02:00 |
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That Boushh-y motherfucker.
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 03:38 |
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Hoth is great but its always felt weird that we don't see any stormtroopers on the ground until we're inside the base itself. Other than that quick shot of an AT-ST it's just the walkers. The turrets I can understand but what are those rebels in the trenches doing? Shooting at the walkers? Hell, when one of them gets tripped and blown up a few of them jump out their trenches and start running towards the walkers!
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 03:38 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:And, that brings to mind another vehicle with incredibly useless guns - the Imperial combat assault tank: It’s basically the Space StuG and I’m fine with that.
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 11:43 |
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veni veni veni posted:Like how the hell do people even get out of that thing? Ziplines or There's a door in the side.
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 17:53 |
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ah, and the doors are the height for geonosians as well
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 18:03 |
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The egg that Klik-Klak hid later hatched to become a Geonosian queen[4] that called herself Karina by 0 ABY.[5] After losing her womb she attached herself to a portable droid factory and started using it as a mechanical womb to produce B1 battle droids which she saw as her Geonosian children. In 0 ABY, the Sith Lord Darth Vader visited Geonosis and forcefully took the droid factory away from her.[6]
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 18:23 |
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moist turtleneck posted:The egg that Klik-Klak hid later hatched to become a Geonosian queen[4] that called herself Karina by 0 ABY.[5] After losing her womb she attached herself to a portable droid factory and started using it as a mechanical womb to produce B1 battle droids which she saw as her Geonosian children. In 0 ABY, the Sith Lord Darth Vader visited Geonosis and forcefully took the droid factory away from her.[6] drat it's like the handmaid's tale in space
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# ? Oct 12, 2021 18:59 |
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Hazo posted:I'm not sure if it's still canonical, and this is a deep cut, but The Empire Strikes Back cassette radio drama elaborates on how the AT-ATs got onto Hoth. Basically they were Warhammer-Battlemech-whatever-style drop pods that landed beyond the Echo Base shield. I think this is in the novelization, too. Disposable drop pods that crash land to the surface
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moist turtleneck posted:ah, and the doors are the height for geonosians as well They have to be, otherwise the stormtroopers wouldn't have anywhere to bump their heads.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 05:24 |
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I love these designs they remind me of the original design they wanted to use for the fighter things in the Stargate movie. https://youtu.be/ebDAZGkNSKo?t=890
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 05:51 |
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Megillah Gorilla posted:It would probably be good at strafing infantry across a large, flat battlefield. Coincidentally it's biggest weakness in the miniature game is that it is incapable of moving over any terrain taller than a chest-high wall
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indigi posted:What was the original story A version of Star Wars, much like the different versions of the Yellow King, that shares many names, characters, and plot details, but is also very different quote:Young Annikin Starkiller, son of former Jedi Bendu Kane Starkiller, is leaving their homeworld Utapau in the Kessil system for Aquilae, a planet which is still independent of the New Galactic Empire.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 16:24 |
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And that's not even getting into the rough outlines and notes he had before actually putting a script together. His first attempt was called "The Journal of the Whills", and is just a handwritten outline that's basically The Phantom Menace with some names changed. It follows Jedi Bendu Mace Windy and his Padawaan CJ Thorpe on a mission to investigate the planet Yoshiro, which has been annexed by the Empire. In order to save the planet, the Jedi need to protect Prince Luke Starkiller, and along the way they gain the aid of the planet's amphibious natives after befriending one named Han Solo. His next full outline has more detail, and is a bit more recognizable as "Star Wars", but there's no battle against the Death Star, and the movie ends with the rescue of the princess because the second act was taken up by Return of the Jedi's Ewok shenanigans. quote:The original synopsis takes place in the 33rd century, where a young princess is fleeing from the Empire with one of her generals (Luke Skywalker) and 200 pounds of spice.
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Robot Style posted:And that's not even getting into the rough outlines and notes he had before actually putting a script together. It's interesting how close this is the ten minute version that was released on Super 8 for home theatres. Just boiling Star Wars down to as distilled an essence as possible: get the boys together, rescue the princess, fly off into the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LSW90Bd2UQ
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Toph Bei Fong posted:spaceport town Gordon
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:31 |
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Yes, these drafts have George's big dumb fantasy names all over them and then you get something like "CJ Thorpe." I assume when he met the Prince he was going to introduce himself like an O-lineman on Sunday Night Football. "CJ Thorpe, The Ohio State University; I'm here to rescue you."
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It's neat to see how many little organelles of movies that wouldn't come out for another quarter century are in these treatments.JethroMcB posted:Yes, these drafts have George's big dumb fantasy names all over them and then you get something like "CJ Thorpe." I assume when he met the Prince he was going to introduce himself like an O-lineman on Sunday Night Football. "CJ Thorpe, The Ohio State University; I'm here to rescue you." Ozamataz Buckshank
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veni veni veni posted:This is most of Star Wars tbh. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:22 |
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you have bad taste in airplanes
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JethroMcB posted:Yes, these drafts have George's big dumb fantasy names all over them and then you get something like "CJ Thorpe." I assume when he met the Prince he was going to introduce himself like an O-lineman on Sunday Night Football. "CJ Thorpe, The Ohio State University; I'm here to rescue you." CJ is apparently short for "Chuiee Two". Journal of the Whills posted:I am Chuiee Two Thorpe of Kissel. My father is Han Dardell Thorpe, chief pilot of the renown galactic cruiser Tarnack. As a family we were not rich, except in honor, and valuing this above all mundane possessions, I chose the profession of my father, rather than a more profitable career. I was 16 I believe, and pilot of the trawler Balmung, when my ambitions demanded that I enter the exalted Intersystems Academy to train as a potential Jedi-Templer. It is here that I became padawaan learner to the great Mace Windy, highest of all the Jedi-bendu masters, and at that time, Warlord to the Chairman of the Alliance of Independent Systems. It's complete nonsense.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:you have bad taste in airplanes not saying the f82's great, just that it existed
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ghosthorse posted:not saying the f82's great, just that it existed
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veni veni veni posted:This is most of Star Wars tbh.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:07 |
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Machines like the Boston Dynamics bot can right themselves and (presumably) don't immediately explode if they're knocked over. Do not disrespect BigDog in this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXJZVZFRFJc
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:16 |
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A metal gear!?!
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:44 |
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Speaking of space tanks, one SUPER overlooked Star Wars Tank I always liked is the unnamed Rebel Tank that only appeared in the original Rogue Squadron on the N64. It's so obscure that it doesn't even have a name. Can you imagine it, a Star Wars vehicle that doesn't have a complete development history, serial number, name, and manufacturer! The only images of it that exist are this extremely blurry screen cap from wookiepedia and a single piece of low quality fan art In addition to a forward facing big laser and a 360 degree turret with AA capabilities, it also doubles as an APC. You work alongside a couple to escort a convoy of transports , and then later provide air cover for a company of them when they assault an Imperial Base. If you unlock the secret AT-ST level, you can even fight one, but only if you first blow up a Rebel bunker, letting the troops that flee from it reach the tank, and have destroyed the shuttle it would take off from. It will kill you in like 2 seconds.
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# ? Oct 14, 2021 01:32 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:It's neat to see how many little organelles of movies that wouldn't come out for another quarter century are in these treatments. Not a fan of X-Wing @Aliciousness from Missouri Western State?
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"Online classes!" edit: if you're unfamiliar (video starts at the right spot) https://youtu.be/rT1nGjGM2p8?t=180
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# ? Oct 14, 2021 20:31 |
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As ever with AT-ATs, this leads to questions like "Why don't we skip the added cost and weak point of legs and just use these much bigger floating metal boxes to crush our enemies?" If you have a thing that is heavy enough to drop multiple AT-ATs, this is hard to overlook even for a Imperial wunderwaffen designer obsessed with Evil Aesthetic. Name Change fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:As ever with AT-ATs, this leads to questions like "Why don't we skip the added cost of weak point of legs and just use these much bigger floating metal boxes to crush our enemies?" This is the kind of out-of-the-box thinking that gets you sent down to dianoga removal duty, ensign.
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