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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The Bloop posted:

The JJPrise being absurdly huge is also the only way the brewery engineering makes sense. I mean since they haven't discovered the turbolift dimension yet at that point.

If I recall the biggest reason for the doubling in size late in the production of Trek 2009 was the shuttlebay scenes. The TOS Enterprise shuttlebay is actually quite tiny and they wanted to be able to have a busy loading-people-onto-the-ship-with-a-dozen-shuttles scene and it needed to be a lot bigger.

Even with the doubling those giant sets like the brewery do look hilarious on the cutaway.



E: While we're on cutaways, why not have a TOS cutaway for good measure.



it was deliberately scaled by Matt Jeffries to be an understandable and describable size to audiences:


MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Oct 12, 2021

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.


Bridge, warp core, transporter room, motorcycle

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




It was a plot-bearing motorcycle!

(I feel like it might've actually been used in another iteration of the script to give Edison some more personality as well?)

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
god that loving atrium

that's what a literal actual child who thinks they're clever would put there

not, like, the M-4's duotronic core or a turbolift shaft or anything

OH RIGHT TURBOLIFTS TRAVEL THROUGH SHIPSPACE, WHERE OUR SHIP BECOMES A loving TARDIS WITH INFINITE INTERNAL DIMENSIONS

ahem

sorry. had a little moment.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




It could've even been cool if it was also a turbolift interchange and you had lifts running up and down rails down the middleand splitting off to sideways shafts with the walking passages wrapping around that. Would've been super-dynamic to look at too. Like a less dumb version of Discovery's turbo dimension.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Oct 12, 2021

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Tars Tarkas posted:

Each season she captains a new ship that gets destroyed by an ecological menace that the Enterprise has to help fix

is SNW going to be hour long episodes? I'd be down for something silly like that, hopefully she would have more to do

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Lol.

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8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

https://shop.startrek.com/products/star-trek-lower-decks-ritos-adult-short-sleeve-t-shirt/

Good news unless you're a fat gently caress like me.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!



Some countries that we are unfortunately not able to ship to at this time are: Australia, New Zealand, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Myanmar, North Korea, Syria, Russia, Belarus, Congo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Cuba.

drat time to pirate a shirt I guess

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Mx. posted:

Some countries that we are unfortunately not able to ship to at this time are: Australia, New Zealand, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Myanmar, North Korea, Syria, Russia, Belarus, Congo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Cuba.

drat time to pirate a shirt I guess

Jesus, I didn't realize Star Trek shirts were ITAR-restricted

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003





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The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006

Nichael posted:

I somehow remember this scene as it not translating at all and people using their native languages. It was just translating into random other languages?

Yeah, I mean someone correct me if I'm misremembering (please tell me I'm misremembering) but I'm pretty sure the translator was being scrambled rather than deactivated.

dr_rat posted:

As many people have mentioned, it has many great characters and actors, it's production values are generally top notch, and occasionally has some reasonably interesting ideas. It's entirely redeemable, it just needs to slow the gently caress down, and as you say, not threaten to blow up the universe every season.

I mean as far as characters go Stamets, Tilly, Reno, and Saru are all up there with the most fun and interesting characters out of Star treck main crews, and Burnham's fine when she hasn't had the seventh billion major life/universe changing revelation happen to her in an episode.

I really loved Stamet's initial arc, which might be one of my favourite things about Discovery. The whole transition of "tight-rear end engineer starts a trans-dimensional magic mushroom habit and chills the gently caress out" happens so slowly and subtly, and Anthony Rapp portrays it so well. Like, it's not in your face, but the way he goes from by-the-books nerd to radiant hippie over the course of the show worked really well I thought.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

The Grumbles posted:

Yeah, I mean someone correct me if I'm misremembering (please tell me I'm misremembering) but I'm pretty sure the translator was being scrambled rather than deactivated.

I really loved Stamet's initial arc, which might be one of my favourite things about Discovery. The whole transition of "tight-rear end engineer starts a trans-dimensional magic mushroom habit and chills the gently caress out" happens so slowly and subtly, and Anthony Rapp portrays it so well. Like, it's not in your face, but the way he goes from by-the-books nerd to radiant hippie over the course of the show worked really well I thought.

There's been absolutely nothing wrong with the casting for Disco. The problem is that they only exist in the orbit of Michael, rather than being their own person in an ensemble cast like past Trek shows. They even had the perfect opportunity to fix this in Season 3 with the soft reboot and immediately squander it because, oops, Discovery couldn't do anything on its own and needed a Deus Ex Michael to save the day because an entire Starfleet crew of trained scientists in various fields had tried nothing and were all out of ideas.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I mean that's the reason we're all watching season after season, right? Discovery has all of the elements to be a perfectly good show, the showrunners and writers just need to sit down one year and decide that this is the year they will tell a coherent story.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
I’m working my way through the season of Lower Decks in preparation for the finale on Thursday and I have to say one of my favourite slow-burn jokes was the Voyager-D line Mariner drops to try and get into the Starfleet party.

Is just bullshitting the dude, or has Starfleet really lost four Voyagers in as many years since the OG ship got back from the Delta Quadrant? Because they have to get to J eventually by the 32nd century.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Oct 12, 2021

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

nine-gear crow posted:

I’m working my way through the season of Lower Decks in preparation for the finale on Thursday and I have to say one of my favourite slow-burn jokes was the Voyager-D line Mariner drops to try and get into the Starfleet party.

Is just bullshitting the dude, or has Starfleet really lost four Voyagers in as many years since the OG ship got back from the Delta Quadrant? Because they have to get to J eventually by the 32nd century.

Not necessarily; Refits count too, remember.

Also bullshitting is entirely possible too.

Porpoise With A Purpose
Feb 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/realGulDukat/status/1447757776764252163

Somehow they managed to not completely mangle cardassian makeup?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I'd love to see a Cardassian whose whole face is a concave spoon shape

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

The Grumbles posted:

Yeah, I mean someone correct me if I'm misremembering ......

I really loved Stamet's initial arc, which might be one of my favourite things about Discovery. The whole transition of "tight-rear end engineer starts a trans-dimensional magic mushroom habit and chills the gently caress out" happens so slowly and subtly, and Anthony Rapp portrays it so well. Like, it's not in your face, but the way he goes from by-the-books nerd to radiant hippie over the course of the show worked really well I thought.

Stamets is an astromycologist. He's a space mushroom biology scientist, not an engineer. He was "spore drive specialist" and they never actually mentioned the position of chief engineer, which is extremely silly on a ship with more engineering than we've ever seen, in the form of a giant spinning disc that luckily never got damaged at all in any of their battles

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


I don't see any Bajoran at all in there, tbh. I would buy a human with some Cardassian background.

also, I found the pickiest of nits!

https://twitter.com/GeekFilter/status/1447636023186317313?s=20

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Do we even know for sure they're not Starfleet in any capacity? I don't really see any reason a Vulcan vessel with a fully Vulcan crew couldn't still be under Starfleet auspices

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


o I dunno I'm just reposting, I'd never actually try to argue with Twitter Trek lol

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
I’m assuming it’s just a goof where the animation studio has a stock number of assets created and stuck “space_boot_3.obj” on the Vulcans, not realizing there’s a Starfleet delta on it.

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Brawnfire posted:

Do we even know for sure they're not Starfleet in any capacity? I don't really see any reason a Vulcan vessel with a fully Vulcan crew couldn't still be under Starfleet auspices

I mean starfleet isn't the military of just Earth right? It's the military arm of the Federation, which Vulcan is a founding member of.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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An IDIC on the boot sole (or boot katra?) would be a nice touch

Spanish Matlock posted:

I mean starfleet isn't the military of just Earth right? It's the military arm of the Federation, which Vulcan is a founding member of.

That's how I kind of see it, like you could have ships stylistically more akin to any of the member worlds, and maybe we're just more familiar with Earthesque vessels because of story focus.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


I thought that there could still be independent navies from Starfleet if the member world wanted to maintain their own. I just assumed Earth disbanded it's own as a bargaining chip/cause it gets to be the capital.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Season 3 will feature an entire episode devoted to explaining that boot.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Actually the boot is already a deep-cut reference to a little-noticed background character in episode six of season two of--

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Brawnfire posted:

Do we even know for sure they're not Starfleet in any capacity? I don't really see any reason a Vulcan vessel with a fully Vulcan crew couldn't still be under Starfleet auspices

Given that, at the end of the episode, the Captain threatens to recommend Vulcan Mariner be admitted into Starfleet, it suggests the ship is a Vulcan one and not a Starfleet one.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

The Bloop posted:

Season 3 will feature an entire episode devoted to explaining that boot.

Honestly I could see that as an episode. Mostly if it's just one or two of the actual lower decks crew obsessing over it, while bridge crew are off in the background doing you know actual starfleet stuff.

At least four of the four main lower decks crew have been shown to be pedantic nerds about one thing or another.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Epicurius posted:

Given that, at the end of the episode, the Captain threatens to recommend Vulcan Mariner be admitted into Starfleet, it suggests the ship is a Vulcan one and not a Starfleet one.

That's a good gotcha, I concede!

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




HD DAD posted:

I’m assuming it’s just a goof where the animation studio has a stock number of assets created and stuck “space_boot_3.obj” on the Vulcans, not realizing there’s a Starfleet delta on it.

Probably not even that, I bet there's just a general standing order to Titmouse to put deltas on all Starfleet boot bottoms so the team don't have to put them on all the frames they send them, and titmouse didn't realise the vulcan ship didn't count.

Aeolusdallas
Mar 2, 2016

This one https://www.thetrekcollective.com/2018/10/lots-of-new-eaglemoss-ships-announced.html

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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The Promellian ship from Booby Trap is on that page and drat, that's a classic 1980s sci-fi starship design

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Brawnfire posted:

The Promellian ship from Booby Trap is on that page and drat, that's a classic 1980s sci-fi starship design

I was looking at the Kobiashi Maru and wondering why it has feet. Looks like a giant exocomp

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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I guess they're cargo containers but holy gently caress that's ugly

Problematic Soup
Feb 18, 2007

The Bloop posted:

Season 3 will feature an entire episode devoted to explaining that boot.

Starfleet Research is at the bleeding edge of pedi-engineering for superior footware comfort and arch support. To choose the replicator pattern of another type of boot would be illogical. <arches eyebrow>

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Brawnfire posted:

The Promellian ship from Booby Trap is on that page and drat, that's a classic 1980s sci-fi starship design

Literally! It's one of the only models they used not built for Trek, it was made for for the 1986 movie Night of the Creeps and they just rented it because of time constraints.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




The Bloop posted:

I was looking at the Kobiashi Maru and wondering why it has feet. Looks like a giant exocomp

Brawnfire posted:

I guess they're cargo containers but holy gently caress that's ugly

The eaglemoss JJTrek Maru is generally right but had a lot of inaccuracies, since all they had were a few distant angles in the film when they made it, images like this came out after:



Pretty ugly but it's freighter-ugly, and the detailing and surfacing are such that it would actually fit pretty well into non-reboot trek. In fact, Eaves actually started from a popular old fanon design that had blueprints floating around when making that.



It's a pretty common concept, though, similar ideas have cropped up before. DS9 made a tanker for the background of scenes but never used it (falling apart a bit here):



Star Trek Online ended up doing a classic Kobayashi Maru along those lines and it came out pretty nice:



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The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006

The Bloop posted:

Stamets is an astromycologist. He's a space mushroom biology scientist, not an engineer. He was "spore drive specialist" and they never actually mentioned the position of chief engineer, which is extremely silly on a ship with more engineering than we've ever seen, in the form of a giant spinning disc that luckily never got damaged at all in any of their battles

Oh okay whatever, I mean he certainly fits the engineer archetype on the show and just kind of assumed that was his job. But you know what I mean. He's super uptight and a stickler, and I loved watching the character very slowly mellow out due to tripping being a key part of his working life.

The Grumbles fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Oct 12, 2021

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