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Ehud posted:There could be more but using racist language and anti-gay slurs, being against drafting gay players and hiring female refs, and making fun of trans people is kind of a lot of stuff already. Yeah but I'm not any of those things, so I'm waiting for something that actually targets me and seems important cause I have literally no empathy. - assholes everywhere
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The cheerleader trafficking didn't blow up the first time what 8ish years ago? Not sure why it would now. The shield is going to pull out all the stops to keep that quiet
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The cheerleader trafficking didn't blow up the first time what 8ish years ago? Not sure why it would now. The shield is going to pull out all the stops to keep that quiet
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shyduck posted:I'd argue it's a much different world now than it was 8 years ago for such matters, and now it's becoming fresh again. You might be right but I think it could be too much too ignore. And yeah the NFL is absolutely in full damage control right now AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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shyduck posted:I'd argue it's a much different world now than it was 8 years ago for such matters, and now it's becoming fresh again. You might be right but I think it could be too much too ignore. And yeah the NFL is absolutely in full damage control right now They'll let out a statement reminding everyone that it's ok guys, a WOMAN* runs the football operations now, so sex trafficking totally isn't going on anymore!!! *Who is married to the guy who had a sex trafficking ring
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shyduck posted:The cheerleader stuff from what we know at the moment is pretty loving bad and I feel like that's going to blow up Yeah that's what I'm thinking. All the other stuff could have been squared away as far as the raiders are concerned by putting him on leave and doing some pr and having Gruden say He Has Changed in an ESPN the magazine cover story, but if you are given the choice of having it come out that Gruden maybe had more involvement with the cheerleader stuff than just receiving an email attachment or running his rear end out the building then you take the second option every time
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Oct 12, 2021 15:19
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Forrest on Fire posted:Gruden probably sees that as just joking around. A lot of people especially in 2011 still thought like that. He's a poo poo. But he never even thought he'd face a consequence because why would he, he's just joking around guys!!! I've got bad news if you think attitudes have improved much since 2011 lol. The Trump era just proved that millions of bigots had gotten better about keeping their poo poo under wraps, until he came around and convinced them it was OK to say the quiet part out loud again.
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Forrest on Fire posted:Gruden probably sees that as just joking around. A lot of people especially in 2011 still thought like that. He's a poo poo. But he never even thought he'd face a consequence because why would he, he's just joking around guys!!! people still think like that in 2021 and you don't even have to look further than this entire loving forum for some of it. also Gruden is going to be back in 5 years max by just playing the waiting game + return tour. America eats up redemption stories.
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shyduck posted:The cheerleader stuff from what we know at the moment is pretty loving bad and I feel like that's going to blow up It feels like the cheerleader stuff is back for discussion, after the NFL leaked these emails without thinking it through.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:24
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I want to know what happens next. How does this start as a WFT investigation and end with only Gruden's poo poo leaking? Surely there is a bunch of other horrible stuff in these emails, including stuff from Dan Snyder.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:25
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Ehud posted:I want to know what happens next. That's the elephant in the room!
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shyduck posted:I'd argue it's a much different world now than it was 8 years ago for such matters, and now it's becoming fresh again. You might be right but I think it could be too much to ignore. And yeah the NFL is absolutely in full damage control right now Also no one knows who the gently caress Bruce Allen is and most non-Washington fans probably don't even know Dan Snyder. Jon Gruden, on the other hand.
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Asema posted:people still think like that in 2021 and you don't even have to look further than this entire loving forum for some of it. Oh I know that's why I specified "especially". We're at the point where anyone actually gives a poo poo but we're not some evolved society from 2011 and earlier.
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Ehud posted:I want to know what happens next.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:30
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I can't believe someone emailed slurs to an @redskins.com address.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:31
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Jon Gruden's comeback tour will start on Dancing with the Stars because they love to redeem horrible people
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Oct 12, 2021 15:32
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shyduck posted:Big juicy sacrificial lamb. We got the bad email guy, case closed! The other guy implicated in Grudens emails is Bruce Allen. Another guy already out of the league. Problem solved!
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Oct 12, 2021 15:32
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There is no way the NFL accidently let it be known they were trading nudes of their sex slaves. You don't blow the lid clean off that dead and buried coffin just to get a popular high visibility NFL lifer run out of the league for having just a little MAGA locker room chat with the guys. To what end it is more preferable for the NFL to admit to more evidence in the long forgotten criminal sex slave ring than to let gruden skate on being a chud piece of poo poo is quite the mystery.
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Gruden is the sacrificial lamb, probably because he called Goodell some inappropriate words
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Asproigerosis posted:There is no way the NFL accidently let it be known they were trading nudes of their sex slaves. You don't blow the lid clean off that dead and buried coffin just to get a popular high visibility NFL lifer run out of the league for having just a little MAGA locker room chat with the guys. To what end it is more preferable for the NFL to admit to more evidence in the long forgotten criminal sex slave ring than to let gruden skate on being a chud piece of poo poo is quite the mystery. This is a good point. The fact that we learned about the cheerleader nude pictures makes the "NFL leaked it themselves" theory seem unlikely...
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shyduck posted:Jon Gruden's comeback tour will start on Dancing with the Stars because they love to redeem horrible people Maybe he’ll give the whole streaming thing a try
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Asproigerosis posted:There is no way the NFL accidently let it be known they were trading nudes of their sex slaves. You don't blow the lid clean off that dead and buried coffin just to get a popular high visibility NFL lifer run out of the league for having just a little MAGA locker room chat with the guys. To what end it is more preferable for the NFL to admit to more evidence in the long forgotten criminal sex slave ring than to let gruden skate on being a chud piece of poo poo is quite the mystery. I'm fairly sure Goodell leaked the emails because he was personally insulted, and didn't think of the full context.
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Who knew the G in LGBT was the most the one minority group you can't disparage. Goodell.
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AsInHowe posted:I'm fairly sure Goodell leaked the emails because he was personally insulted, and didn't think of the full context. I can't believe in good faith the NFL is this dumb. You don't conceal, deflect, and bury an industry wide health crisis such as CTE so effectively nobody talks about it anymore if you're run by idiots.
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Asproigerosis posted:I can't believe in good faith the NFL is this dumb. You don't conceal, deflect, and bury an industry wide health crisis such as CTE so effectively nobody talks about it anymore if you're run by idiots. CTE didn't call Goodell a pussy.
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AsInHowe posted:I'm fairly sure Goodell leaked the emails because he was personally insulted, and didn't think of the full context. I imagine owners say worse to his face. Hell fans certainly do. It being that simple is plausible but this does feel like a continuation of "cleaning up" Washington's image.
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I think it's very clear they (the league) wanted Gruden gone, the question is why and what is he supposed to be taking the attention off of by being the sacrificial lamb here
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Asproigerosis posted:I can't believe in good faith the NFL is this dumb. You don't conceal, deflect, and bury an industry wide health crisis such as CTE so effectively nobody talks about it anymore if you're run by idiots. You also have to look at how many people actually push for one topic or the other. Too many NFL fans are a-ok with CTE and the effects of football because it doesn't personally effect them and/or they just don't understand what it means. But racism? Sexism? Utilizing slurs against minorities? Much bigger pool of people there.
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I'm sure the Bruce Allen side of those emails is just as bad if not worse than Gruden's and no one cares about that lol
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Asproigerosis posted:I can't believe in good faith the NFL is this dumb. You don't conceal, deflect, and bury an industry wide health crisis such as CTE so effectively nobody talks about it anymore if you're run by idiots. The NFL is definitely dumb enough to leak emails before realizing that there is also another party sending/receiving those emails.
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All I want for Christmas is for this to explode and take out like 1/3rd of ownership.
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mcmagic posted:I'm sure the Bruce Allen side of those emails is just as bad if not worse than Gruden's and no one cares about that lol Well he isn't in the league anymore and is not even close to as high a profile name as Gruden
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mcmagic posted:I'm sure the Bruce Allen side of those emails is just as bad if not worse than Gruden's and no one cares about that lol Because we already knew he was an unstable alcoholic and an rear end in a top hat. Gruden wasn't publicly hated for this yet. Allen was fired in 2019. I also don't get why nobody in the media has pointed out that Gruden and Allen worked together for four seasons, they're very close and this email chain is probably tame by the standards of those 2004-2008 correspondences.
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Gonna guess that Gruden isn't the only one who goes down from this or has stuff come out against them. I see it as the NFL being proactive before the full report comes out and people go, "why didn't you do anything about him sooner?" Even though it's still a very valid question right now.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:53
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Lol this man thinks the investigative body will enter that search term
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Oct 12, 2021 15:58
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Ctrl+F "Kaepernick" and the computer explodes
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fsif posted:Also no one knows who the gently caress Bruce Allen is and most non-Washington fans probably don't even know Dan Snyder. Jon Gruden, on the other hand. Well at least some media people remember, still dislike him, and may have the ability to dig things up. https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1447921985326096387
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Very curious to see what happens next bc there’s no way this is the worst thing in that investigation Grittybeard posted:Well at least some media people remember, still dislike him, and may have the ability to dig things up. Yea I’d like to hear more about this too Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:All I want for Christmas is for this to explode and take out like 1/3rd of ownership. Amen
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