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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean no one was talking about the emails until the gruden stuff dropped so why did they need a distraction? Beats me but what does the investigation into the WFT in the NFC E have to do with the league pretty much blindsiding the Raiders in the AFC W over Gruden?
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sweet geek swag posted:To cover up the announcement that they weren't going to release anything. They only needed to announce that because the Gruden leaks lead to people asking if other emails would be made public. Nobody was talking about the investigation at all until the Gruden stuff dropped.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They only needed to announce that because the Gruden leaks lead to people asking if other emails would be made public. Nobody was talking about the investigation at all until the Gruden stuff dropped. Eventually someone would have asked. And they would have to have an answer. Now their answer can be, "Yeah that investigation led to us firing Gruden," and drop it forever.
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They're going to get DDOS'd if their email system isn't a closed circuit. You can't leak less than .1% of the story without pissing hackers off. That's the kind of hilariously short-term thinking I've come to expect from ol' Roger
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pasaluki posted:Beats me but what does the investigation into the WFT in the NFC E have to do with the league pretty much blindsiding the Raiders in the AFC W over Gruden? It’s not about blindsiding the Raiders, it’s about punishing Gruden for calling the commissioner an f-slur. This is a pure “power for the sake of power” move, and luckily it’s ruining a shithead like Gruden and not someone decent. Unless this is a  devised by Mark Davis, but… c’mon, just look at the guy!
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^^--I mean I hate Goodell too but I don't buy this angle personally. pasaluki posted:Beats me but what does the investigation into the WFT in the NFC E have to do with the league pretty much blindsiding the Raiders in the AFC W over Gruden? Bruce Allen is the link, I don't know if the league is just doing a solid for Mark Davis to get out of a bad contract/someone else leaking all of this or if some whistleblower was actually alarmed at this. And...somehow not alarmed at anything going on with WFT. Which doesn't really seem possible. I mean the timing with the Raiders is odd if they're helping Davis since they're kinda good this year. Might have been a way to attempt to get the NFLPA to keep Demaurice Smith too, that's still out there. It's all very puzzling. Covering up something worse seems to be the best bet? Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Forrest on Fire posted:They're going to get DDOS'd if their email system isn't a closed circuit. You can't leak less than .1% of the story without pissing hackers off. That's the kind of hilariously short-term thinking I've come to expect from ol' Roger It’s a bunch of middle aged guys, they’ll just get phished
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This is one of those moments I wish there were real investigative journalist in sports instead of just mouth pieces running to Twitter to post as fast as possible whatever story an agent or team told them to say. Cause none of this makes any loving sense. This whole situation is crooked as hell.
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The NFPA is going to request for the NFL to release them all, and the NFL said no because of confidentiality. Which... they already waived by handing over the Gruden ones to the NYT  PFT posted:“We have had communications with the league, and the NFLPA plans to request that the NFL release the rest of the emails,” NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith told Mike Jones of USA Today.
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Derek Fcking Carr posted:https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1448023844414009348 lol burying Gruden (as he should be) and then immediately throwing up defenses around GMs and owners.
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Oct 12, 2021 22:09
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What a loving weird turn of events. No tears for Gruden by why on earth did they decide to bury him and no one else? What a relatively fringe figure in that saga. We're missing something.
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The firing of one of the most well-known coaches in the league is a big deal and is once again beginning a dialogue on racism in the NFL which might be exactly what the NFL wants because at least racism isn’t a federal crime, unlike sex trafficking, which there is likely tons of evidence of in those emails
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nah posted:Really shoulda seen the writing on the wall once he started getting compared to that Chucky doll. That thing was a complete psychopath Chucky isn't homophobic like Gruden though
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So I'm buying the "if Goodell hadn't been insulted these wouldn't have come out" angle now https://twitter.com/MarkMaske/status/1448020255633199105?s=20
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Is there a chance that the leak Friday and the NFL leaking to the NYT came from different parties? Like the Friday leak came from an ESPN person and then the NFL leaks their stuff because they wanted Vegas to make a move with Gruden after they let him coach a game
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There's also likely at least one email where someone in Washington talks about not being allowed to pursue getting Kaep
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The best part of all of this is that unless something changes and the NFL decides to actually release them (lol), the only person who ended up taking any heat and consequence from this is a guy who didn't even work for the team they were investigating for all the wrongdoing in the first place. All around another good job by Goodell
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Oct 12, 2021 22:19
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sweet geek swag posted:Eventually someone would have asked. And they would have to have an answer. Now their answer can be, "Yeah that investigation led to us firing Gruden," and drop it forever. Asked for what? The things they didn’t know existed until these leaks happened?
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Oct 12, 2021 22:21
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There had to be dirt from every team in the league in those emails. Goodell is sitting on a weapon now.
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Oct 12, 2021 22:22
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31 Donald sterlings, the only owner not stripped of their NFL franchise for racism and sex trafficking is Mark Davis
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DC Murderverse posted:The firing of one of the most well-known coaches in the league is a big deal and is once again beginning a dialogue on racism in the NFL Pretty sure race is a protected class and there are in fact many such laws regarding it in terms of employing people.
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Oct 12, 2021 22:27
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Another possible really dumb but maybe someone thought was smart idea might be trying to direct people's attention away from the St Louis lawsuit. Because some real dirt might be coming out there too.
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fsif posted:What a loving weird turn of events. No tears for Gruden by why on earth did they decide to bury him and no one else? What a relatively fringe figure in that saga. I agree. Something about this just doesn't quite add up and I feel like there is one piece somewhere that would bring it all together. It's also just bizarre and blatantly hypocritical to release only a tiny fraction of emails that would be enough to sink Gruden's career and keeping the rest of them, which are WITHOUT DOUBT a million times more and much worse. What is going on here exactly. Grittybeard posted:Another possible really dumb but maybe someone thought was smart idea might be trying to direct people's attention away from the St Louis lawsuit. That's the one where they are suing for losing their team right? What's likely to come out from that?
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Play posted:That's the one where they are suing for losing their team right? What's likely to come out from that? I don't know but they've subpoenaed stuff from a half dozen owners or more at this point and the judge is cool with everyone seeing it I think. e: that's probably the wrong word, I am not a lawyer and all. But a whole bunch of documents are possibly going to go public. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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The STL lawsuit has the biggest chance to be wild. The city doesn't want a new team which would the leagues normal offer so it's as much money as they can wring out.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The city doesn't want a new team which would the leagues normal offer so it's as much money as they can wring out.
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Codependent Poster posted:Chucky isn't homophobic like Gruden though Kinda weird to defend a known murderer but okay
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Oct 12, 2021 22:47
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Asked for what? The things they didn’t know existed until these leaks happened? The NFL was supposedly investigating the Washington situation. Eventually it was going to come up again, even if it wasn't a big topic now. Burning the news that they completed the investigation and won't be releasing any more details in the shadow of releasing the Gruden stuff is brilliant, in that they can say "We got Gruden" and the vast majority of people will say "Oh..." This works especially well because Gruden's name is associated with Washington (even though it was because of his brother working there). They are trying to bury this forever under a mountain of racist tropes and apathy.
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St. Louis already has emails from like a half dozen owners (including Jerry Jones) as someone else mentioned. The contents will end up public when their case goes to trial. https://twitter.com/Ben_Fred/status/1447597923638947842?s=20 https://twitter.com/Ben_Fred/status/1447624537923850246?s=20
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sweet geek swag posted:The NFL was supposedly investigating the Washington situation. Eventually it was going to come up again, even if it wasn't a big topic now. Burning the news that they completed the investigation and won't be releasing any more details in the shadow of releasing the Gruden stuff is brilliant, in that they can say "We got Gruden" and the vast majority of people will say "Oh..." This works especially well because Gruden's name is associated with Washington (even though it was because of his brother working there). They are trying to bury this forever under a mountain of racist tropes and apathy. The investigation ended in July with a 10 million fine for Snyder and no further action. The story was dead.
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1448043568979927042?t=yHvKMCwDcklcFM8T2xAebQ&s=19 This is absolutely, completely because of the Glazer comments and not because of the racism/sexism.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:St. Louis already has emails from like a half dozen owners (including Jerry Jones) as someone else mentioned. The contents will end up public when their case goes to trial. I didn't realize the trial wasn't until January, so the timing doesn't work out with this whole Gruden thing as a distraction. But yeah that has a chance to burn a whole lot of people down or at least endlessly embarrass them whenever their name comes up when it happens.
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Lol at gruden and lol at the nfl for making him the fall guy so blatantly
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sweet geek swag posted:The NFL was supposedly investigating the Washington situation. Eventually it was going to come up again, even if it wasn't a big topic now. Burning the news that they completed the investigation and won't be releasing any more details in the shadow of releasing the Gruden stuff is brilliant, in that they can say "We got Gruden" and the vast majority of people will say "Oh..." This works especially well because Gruden's name is associated with Washington (even though it was because of his brother working there). They are trying to bury this forever under a mountain of racist tropes and apathy. The leak is really weird and does not put the NFL in a good place at all, seems like someone with a personal vendetta against Gruden (i'm guessing that's not too rare though)
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1448043568979927042?t=yHvKMCwDcklcFM8T2xAebQ&s=19 As they continue to pay AB's salary.
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wyoak posted:yeah this doesn't track, the investigation was already closed from the nfl's standpoint Lol, I didn't hear about the fine, that's how under the radar that was. That is extraordinarily stupid of the NFL then.
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The joke with David Stern was always "nobody fucks with him because he knows where all the bodies are buried," and that always made me roll my eyes because how many bodies are actually in any sports league's closet anyway, but holy poo poo if Goodell isn't showing commissioners absolutely are where they are because "they know where the bodies are buried," this absolutely was a personal mission to get rid of Gruden for insulting him personally and forgetting who has what hidden where. And now it all subsides back in the ocean like some sated kaiju.
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shyduck posted:Big juicy sacrificial lamb. We got the bad email guy, case closed!
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