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LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

everdave posted:

Hmm…considering how my inept crypto purchases have turned out…don’t think I will. It’s a giant tire fire but if it makes me money enjoy the smoke

Is it making you money?

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everdave
Nov 14, 2005

LordArgh posted:

Is it making you money?

I have made money. Yes. I’m buying crap with rhrowAway money now. Yes crapto has made me profit. I know crap about it except buy low sell high same as everything else in the world.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


everdave posted:

It’s a giant tire fire but if it makes me money enjoy the smoke

An extremely prescient sentence in regards to crypto.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

SRQ posted:

Jeffrey of Yospos paid for SA via money he made by early coining lol.

I am told that this is not in fact the case. He just makes it now from bitcoin-fueled reregging.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

everdave posted:

I have made money. Yes. I’m buying crap with rhrowAway money now. Yes crapto has made me profit. I know crap about it except buy low sell high same as everything else in the world.
Oh boy, just wait until you hear about lottery tickets!

Hammerite
Mar 9, 2007

And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.
Jade Ear Joe

everdave posted:

I have made money. Yes. I’m buying crap with rhrowAway money now. Yes crapto has made me profit. I know crap about it except buy low sell high same as everything else in the world.

money in your hands or money on a computer screen? you haven't made money on any of this poo poo until it's in your actualmoney bank account and you've paid the taxes on it. all of the places that deal in cryptocurrencies are dodgy fly-by-night outfits that are liable to run away with your money, or fall over dead, at any time. no exceptions. and your paper money gains could disappear at any time because this is all make believe nonsense backed by rainbows and fairy dreams

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Mans posted:

It's what I keep telling everyone I know.

If you bought bitcoin when it was one euro, you'd sell a good portion when it reached 5, much less when it kept rising, because you can't predict the future.

the "dog dick coffee table guy" of bitcoin fame did exactly this, he sold at like $40 and bought some lovely nissan with it, then didnt report it on his taxes and got into some IRS issues

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

Hammerite posted:

money in your hands or money on a computer screen? you haven't made money on any of this poo poo until it's in your actualmoney bank account and you've paid the taxes on it. all of the places that deal in cryptocurrencies are dodgy fly-by-night outfits that are liable to run away with your money, or fall over dead, at any time. no exceptions. and your paper money gains could disappear at any time because this is all make believe nonsense backed by rainbows and fairy dreams

Geez…money in hands. Crypto IS lotto tickets but if I want to buy a few scratch offs who cares. I “lost” way more at the arcade this week with the kids on claw machines - but gasp my youngest is over the moon on her wins. I figured it out anyways last night.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

everdave posted:

Hey I know crypto is dumb etc…however experimenting with poo poo coins how the hell do I move some crap from u I swap to trust wallet? I’ve looked for 2 hours I see nothing (on phone bought a poo poo coin I have a wallet address set up on uniswap and trust)

why would you go to a bitcoin mock thread to ask people for help with using bitcoins

you'll want the BFC thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3878671

bollig
Apr 7, 2006

Never Forget.
The SwissPost is now issuing a crypto-stamp for 8.90 francs:

https://www.post.ch/en/about-us/media/press-releases/2021/swiss-post-launches-switzerland-s-first-crypto-stamp

Because this loving country wants to be crypto valley.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

everdave posted:

Hey I know crypto is dumb etc…however experimenting with poo poo coins how the hell do I move some crap from u I swap to trust wallet? I’ve looked for 2 hours I see nothing (on phone bought a poo poo coin I have a wallet address set up on uniswap and trust)

just a little constructive criticism you might ponder over: go fick yourself

Shinmera
Mar 25, 2013

I make games!

bollig posted:

The SwissPost is now issuing a crypto-stamp for 8.90 francs:

https://www.post.ch/en/about-us/media/press-releases/2021/swiss-post-launches-switzerland-s-first-crypto-stamp

Because this loving country wants to be crypto valley.

:cripes: I really hate this country sometimes

everdave
Nov 14, 2005

punishedkissinger posted:

just a little constructive criticism you might ponder over: go fick yourself

Ooh so edgy

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

everdave posted:

Ooh so edgy

not as edgy as accelerating climate change to feed a dumbass gambling addiction!

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

everdave posted:

Hey I know crypto is dumb etc…however experimenting with poo poo coins how the hell do I move some crap from u I swap to trust wallet? I’ve looked for 2 hours I see nothing (on phone bought a poo poo coin I have a wallet address set up on uniswap and trust)
Do your mean to a cold wallet? Changing crypto from one place to another has tons of fees and a single wrong digit can lead you to lose your assets, even if the number points to something that doesn't exist, it becomes totally lost to you.

If you really want to play that game, I honestly recommend reading about cold storage, about fees, about only spending money that you can lose at any time and to treat that "market" as something that you can profit on to buy some sushi or something.

Please do not lose yourself in this poo poo, specially if you're in a country that taxes these gains.

I'd honestly just suggest you don't play with it at all, but I do understand the appeal of (theoretical) fast gains. It's why I hopped in, started reading this and the bad with money thread and reviewed the path I was taking.

Hammerite posted:

money in your hands or money on a computer screen? you haven't made money on any of this poo poo until it's in your actualmoney bank account and you've paid the taxes on it. all of the places that deal in cryptocurrencies are dodgy fly-by-night outfits that are liable to run away with your money, or fall over dead, at any time. no exceptions. and your paper money gains could disappear at any time because this is all make believe nonsense backed by rainbows and fairy dreams
Some countries don't tax crypto gains at all and that's 100% of the reason I played with it for example.

Unless I earn more money with crypto than with my normal job, the taxman doesn't care. It's a weird loophole, but drat if it didn't turn everyone around here into a mini crypto "expert".


punishedkissinger posted:

not as edgy as accelerating climate change to feed a dumbass gambling addiction!

Dude probably spend 100 euros on SHIBA, let's not pretend he wiped out a family of polar bears over it.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
And just to clarify, when I say experts I mean 18 year old YouTube influencers tried to create crypto investment schools and convincing teenagers to buy shitcoins.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Mans posted:

Dude probably spend 100 euros on SHIBA, let's not pretend he wiped out a family of polar bears over it.

https://twitter.com/theonion/status/1015973820493123584

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

100 euros of bitcoin is equivalent to roughly 20 tons of carbon btw so yeah, gently caress anyone participating in crypto. you people are disgusting.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

ugh preachy

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

punishedkissinger posted:

100 euros of bitcoin is equivalent to roughly 20 tons of carbon btw so yeah, gently caress anyone participating in crypto. you people are disgusting.

Mining a bitcoin is apparently 191 tones (Jesus Christ, WHAT??) bitcoin is worth 49k at the present time.

How is 100 dollars of bitcoin "roughly" equivalent to 20 tons worth of carbon?

This is even assuming he's playing with bitcoin itself and not another crypto, whose footprint can be considerably lower.

Feel free to direct him to somewhere where he can invest 100 euros for the promise of quick gains in a environmentally sustainable way. The complete lack of financial help and zero trusts in traditional markets is what driving people into these online casinos. Shaming them doesn't really work.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

Mans posted:

Feel free to direct him to somewhere where he can invest 100 euros for the promise of quick gains in a environmentally sustainable way. The complete lack of financial help and zero trusts in traditional markets is what driving people into these online casinos. Shaming them doesn't really work.

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=nashville+casinos

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Mans posted:

Mining a bitcoin is apparently 191 tones (Jesus Christ, WHAT??) bitcoin is worth 49k at the present time.

How is 100 dollars of bitcoin "roughly" equivalent to 20 tons worth of carbon?

This is even assuming he's playing with bitcoin itself and not another crypto, whose footprint can be considerably lower.

Feel free to direct him to somewhere where he can invest 100 euros for the promise of quick gains in a environmentally sustainable way. The complete lack of financial help and zero trusts in traditional markets is what driving people into these online casinos. Shaming them doesn't really work.

If anyone tells you they have a way to invest a three-digit amount of money for quick gains, you should leave immediately because they're a scammer dragging you into a fraudulent scheme that will eventually collapse.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Main Paineframe posted:

If anyone tells you they have a way to invest a three-digit amount of money for quick gains, you should leave immediately because they're a scammer dragging you into a fraudulent scheme that will eventually collapse.

Hey, that’s not fair. They could also be an entirely honest criminal.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Vengarr posted:

Hey, that’s not fair. They could also be an entirely honest criminal.

After all, only an Honest Criminal would run an Honest Ponzi. Called “Honest Ponzi.”

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

Since the first serious advice of "crypto is just scams built on scams as orchestrated by Captain Planet villains and you shouldn't touch it" has already been disregarded, and the second serious advice of "sell all your shitcoins, get the gently caress out of there, and never look back" will also probably be disregarded, I will sigh and give what little advice I can. Just be warned that I am not a financial type.

The first thing, as has been stated, is to not gamble (I refuse to dignify this poo poo with the word "invest") more than you can afford to lose. Any money you spend on it? Consider it just as gone as if you'd set it on fire. Assume any money you spend on this is gone forever and you will never get it back, and allocate accordingly.

The second thing is that your gains are fictional until they are in your hand as actual real money you can spend on things and not digital pogs. I don't give a poo poo if you bought something at ten bucks and on paper it's worth forty. You didn't make thirty dollars until you actually sell it, because at any moment the market could crash, or the exchange it's in could be hacked, or the exchange it's in could be "hacked" while the owners retire to a country with nice beaches and no extradition laws (ha ha, I am kidding of course, nobody gets prosecuted for this poo poo because there's no regulations). There have been enough stories of paper millionaires who never saw any of their supposed wealth from the dot com days to serve as cautionary tales on that particular front.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

DerekSmartymans posted:

After all, only an Honest Criminal would run an Honest Ponzi. Called “Honest Ponzi.”

Ponzi buddy.

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

MechaCrash posted:

The second thing is that your gains are fictional until they are in your hand as actual real money you can spend on things and not digital pogs.

and if you are one of the few lucky ones to get to this stage, remember to include them in your taxes

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

MechaCrash posted:

Since the first serious advice of "crypto is just scams built on scams as orchestrated by Captain Planet villains and you shouldn't touch it" has already been disregarded, and the second serious advice of "sell all your shitcoins, get the gently caress out of there, and never look back" will also probably be disregarded, I will sigh and give what little advice I can. Just be warned that I am not a financial type.

The first thing, as has been stated, is to not gamble (I refuse to dignify this poo poo with the word "invest") more than you can afford to lose. Any money you spend on it? Consider it just as gone as if you'd set it on fire. Assume any money you spend on this is gone forever and you will never get it back, and allocate accordingly.

The second thing is that your gains are fictional until they are in your hand as actual real money you can spend on things and not digital pogs. I don't give a poo poo if you bought something at ten bucks and on paper it's worth forty. You didn't make thirty dollars until you actually sell it, because at any moment the market could crash, or the exchange it's in could be hacked, or the exchange it's in could be "hacked" while the owners retire to a country with nice beaches and no extradition laws (ha ha, I am kidding of course, nobody gets prosecuted for this poo poo because there's no regulations). There have been enough stories of paper millionaires who never saw any of their supposed wealth from the dot com days to serve as cautionary tales on that particular front.

Just like the IRS says, capital gains aren't gains until they're realized.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Lol DC comics is getting involved in NFTS.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/09/29/dc-x-palm-nft-faqs

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

At least they are free.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

:psyduck:

https://twitter.com/bcrypt/status/1448380745714597889

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Where did those medieval rabbits get a hold of a graphics card?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I hate how coinerz are so god drat stupid and think blockchain and crypto are just magical spells that will instantly give that medieval civ an instant upgrade to their int stat and just make several centruies of math and different fields of science just happen.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

keep punching joe posted:

Where did those medieval rabbits get a hold of a graphics card?

they are denuding the kingdom of scribes and parchment to keep their hashrates up

http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html?m=1

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

Love to read a story that tells me how impressive explaining a topic is without explaining that topic.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

resistentialism posted:

Love to read a story that tells me how impressive explaining a topic is without explaining that topic.

I see you too are a connoisseur of Libertarian Literature

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

resistentialism posted:

Love to read a story that tells me how impressive explaining a topic is without explaining that topic.

He linked them to a wiki article.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Barudak posted:

I see you too are a connoisseur of Libertarian Literature

SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



shame on an IGA posted:

they are denuding the kingdom of scribes and parchment to keep their hashrates up

http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html?m=1

Slaughtering sheep just to make parchment from their skins, wreaking havoc on the prices of wool and meat; I suppose it works as an allegory for miners buying up graphics cards to the point that nobody can upgrade their PC...

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PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
but if they make an NFT of the sheep and they still have the sheep. Infact they can just make an nft of the idea of a pallet of paper and have paper.

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