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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Oddhair posted:Thought the building was a crazy wing in the thumbnail. That’s my deck, but don’t give me ideas. Edit: shameful page snipe. Have a pic of the Abarth at the drag strip 
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Oct 5, 2021 18:23
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Enos Cabell posted:I've done a 6 hour road trip and a bunch of short spirited drives now, and I'm still really digging it. It feels notchier in a good way. Haven't done the valve delete yet, but I did get rid of the assist spring and added a diy stop. Now I'm debating the pros/cons of a weighted shift knob... Thanks for the trip report, ordered one too  . Had it in almost a week now and I don't love it but I deffo like it. The 'feel' side isn't perfect but it's a nice improvement, and the functionality side is great - finding while there's rev hang sometimes, a lot of time there's none so I'm getting some smoother shifts from the throw being faster and not missing the engagement timing. Think there's a full shifter (or maybe just some of the bushings and stuff that's available) replacement in my future, but for the price and dummy/free time friendly install, I'm diggin' it! Between that, the spring removal, and clutch stop cleaning up the shifting I..might be real happy with the car and done touching anything for a while? Pretty groovin' now for uhh checks notes dropping off and picking up kids during rush hour.
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Oct 11, 2021 21:16
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1900 miles in 4 days in the EP3. 690 miles each way to North Carolina, and two days of driving on the Dragon and adjacent excellent roads. A+ will return in a hot hatch again.    
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Oct 11, 2021 23:50
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Imperador do Brasil posted:1900 miles in 4 days in the EP3. 690 miles each way to North Carolina, and two days of driving on the Dragon and adjacent excellent roads. A+ will return in a hot hatch again. Boy, that’s a sleek little monster. What you running under the hood?
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Oct 12, 2021 02:13
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Boy, that’s a sleek little monster. What you running under the hood? The motor is a stock K20. Some bolt-ons - intake, header, high flow cat, exhaust. Mostly it’s the suspension and brakes that makes it more fun: Bilstein/Koni shocks, Eibach springs, Eibach sway bars, camber arms, and some SS steel lines with upgraded pads and rotors. Wheels are Sparco FF1 with 205/55/15 Dunlop Direzza tires. Slow car fun.
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Oct 12, 2021 02:24
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Slow car fast owns Hell ya man! One day I’ll trek out and hit up the dragon
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Oct 12, 2021 02:31
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After a three week break away from the city, I’ve been enjoying the poo poo out of dropping a gear into a mid-level rev range and tearing off into the sunset. I think I’m finally at peace with the goals for the FiST: put a tune on, but keep it bone stock and mint. I doubt I’ll ever make money out of it, but I really don’t need much more from 0-40 mph. In twenty years, mine will be one of the last that went unmodified. Given the stock performance I’m ok with that.
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Oct 12, 2021 02:32
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Dr. Lunchables posted:After a three week break away from the city, I’ve been enjoying the poo poo out of dropping a gear into a mid-level rev range and tearing off into the sunset. Yeah, 6 weeks into FiST ownership and it’s honestly plenty fast for me. IDK where it gets all the “slow car” hate, it’s flat through twisties and on ramps and, to quote RCR, it has no problem merging. Not thrilled with some of the paint and trim quality, but the fixes seem relatively affordable/doable. I too plan to just drive it into the ground. Maybe turn it into a race car or something in the future if its value/condition tank. Ford’s idea of quality definitely isn’t the same as, say—Honda’s idea of quality, but so far I’m willing to forgive because the car is just that fun. For me, I definitely plan on getting some smaller rims in the future (Boston-area streets are not fun with the big shoes)- looking at 16” Terras in white or grey- and I’ll probably do a suspension refresh in 25k miles or so. The big question for me is—B4 or B6? The price delta isn’t huge between them. Assuming B6 is “20% stiffer than B4” and B4 is “factory replacement” for what is already a pretty stiff and handling-focused setup, would B6 on a FiST be loving unbearable?”
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Oct 12, 2021 03:23
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the only people who say it is slow are people that live their life a quarter mile at a time on the internet via spec sheets e: Why do you want to replace the stock ones? You probably won't notice the difference other than in your wallet unless you drive them back to back, but I think the why matters in this case BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Oct 12, 2021 03:28
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BlackMK4 posted:the only people who say it is slow are people that live their life a quarter mile at a time on the internet via spec sheets Because the car is from 2015 and it will need fresh shocks to keep driving well? So if the price difference between drop-in OEM spec vs “upgraded” is like $25 per wheel I may as well see if upgrading is worthwhile? Do you not replace the shocks on your car after driving on them for a while (usually like 100k miles, but I’ve seen ppl recommend 50k depending on the car and driving environment)? Do you not flush the transmission fluid? Doth thou not rotate the tires?
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Oct 12, 2021 04:03
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Honestly if I can get control arms cheap enough I might replace those too (or get them cleaned up and sprayed? Can I do that?) Mine look like they’ve been in New England for six years
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Oct 12, 2021 04:21
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I’ve got B4s on Michigan roads, and I still have all my teeth. B6s just mean you’re better equipped to sidestep those pot holes.
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Oct 12, 2021 12:47
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Ok Comboomer posted:Because the car is from 2015 and it will need fresh shocks to keep driving well? I asked because if you're replacing them for comfort there is a different choice to be made than if you want to improve your pothole slalom and no, I don't rotate my tires because they wear evenly 
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Oct 12, 2021 16:59
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BlackMK4 posted:I asked because if you're replacing them for comfort there is a different choice to be made than if you want to improve your pothole slalom I do a lot of driving, ~2k miles/month, I live in MA, I really enjoy the sporty character of the car. I put a lot of miles on it, but it’s still fun to drive. I enjoy doing it, it doesn’t feel like a chore. It’s harsh tho. The car doesn’t take potholes or road imperfections comfortably. I already mentioned my plan to downsize from the stock rims. If the B6 were just a simple “all-around improvement” it’d be a no-brainer swap. But IDK how “20% stiffer” is gonna feel in a car like this, or if that shorthand rule really applies for this particular range of kits that are for the Fiesta ST specifically. Hell, I should double check that Bilstein’s tiering isn’t based on the regular Fiesta (it’s not, I’m 90% sure)....
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Oct 12, 2021 17:20
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The monotube Bilsteins feel significantly more sophisticated than the twin-tube ones, they feel unflappable.
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Oct 12, 2021 20:50
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The lady at the chick fil a entered my Pontiac vibe GT as a red crossover. I have never been so owned in my life.
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Oct 14, 2021 23:48
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What are everyone’s thoughts on this car:   $10k - I talked to the owner and he said it was a deer impact that totaled it out. He sent me pics of it as well and it didn’t look like the insurance co should have totaled it to me. All front end damage; hood, bumper, fenders, radiator etc. It’s about 2 hours away or I’d have gone to check it out already. It looks pretty good and the mods seem decent. I’m always hesitant on branded titles but it’s thousands cheaper than any other FiST I’ve seen.
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Oct 15, 2021 12:28
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Look at it, drive it, and inquire about the upgrades. It sounds like it’s just intercooler and CAI, but might have oil catches and/or other stuff. How long has he has the tune on? What’s the life on the clutch? It’s as risky as any other used car, but the wear will be greater because it’s been hooned. If the price is right and you like it, I don’t think it’s worse than any other FiST.
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Oct 15, 2021 12:51
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paint job looks shite, look at that mismatch between fender and passenger door
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Oct 15, 2021 16:20
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https://youtu.be/iwViYhMfWWI give me the Type R give me the new Integra that’s most likely based off of this
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Oct 16, 2021 14:03
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I really like how that looks. A similar integra with a stick shift would be amazing.
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Oct 16, 2021 15:20
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Rolo posted:I really like how that looks. A similar integra with a stick shift would be amazing. no confirmation about it being similar, but Integra 2022 is a 5dr hatch and it is apparently coming with a manual
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Oct 16, 2021 15:23
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Please be cool. That civic hatch looks so good to me, don’t mess this up!
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Oct 16, 2021 16:01
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Yup, Integra will have a manual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDFE92gA3Ag I hope the auto is good and not CVT or slow slush box. Really like that new Civic.
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Oct 16, 2021 16:08
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I haven’t been this excited about an Acura in 20 years
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Oct 16, 2021 16:20
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Does the type R have AWD or will the integra have FWD guaranteed?
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Oct 16, 2021 18:27
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AWD and DCT are the anti-TypeR If they end up going that way we know Honda has lost the plot
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Oct 16, 2021 18:54
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Ok I was getting it goofed with the Focus RS I think.
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Oct 16, 2021 19:03
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I don’t think the Integra gets away with being AWD and keeping the fanboys happy, but I could be wrong, esp after they came through with the manual after the Supra didn’t They’ll have to differentiate it from the Civic, and I hope it’s not exclusively in interior quality
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Oct 16, 2021 19:07
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What is interesting about the new Civic? It seems to have the same powertrain as the previous one, and they made the hatchback look like a sedan. I guess the Integra will be interesting, but isn't it just going to be an expensive Civic SI? In that segment, I think the Kia / Hyundai stuff is more interesting.
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Oct 16, 2021 19:35
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Rusty posted:What is interesting about the new Civic? It seems to have the same powertrain as the previous one, and they made the hatchback look like a sedan. I guess the Integra will be interesting, but isn't it just going to be an expensive Civic SI? Nice interior, at least. 
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Oct 16, 2021 19:43
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Yeah, the interior is nice and it seems like people love the ride quality so I am sure it is a nice car. Edit: Also I didn't realize there were people who preferred FWD. Like I have a FWD car but I don't think anyone would complain if they added Haldex to the GTI. Rusty fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Oct 16, 2021 19:47
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Rusty posted:What is interesting about the new Civic? It seems to have the same powertrain as the previous one, and they made the hatchback look like a sedan. I guess the Integra will be interesting, but isn't it just going to be an expensive Civic SI? the old civic’s exterior design was v polarizing and the interior design was garbage compared to the competition, but otherwise it was mostly a Civic (ie perfect), esp with the manual. The new Civic gets a massively improved interior and an exterior design that moves upmarket while decisively calling back to classic design elements from the 90s and early 2000s. It’s a Civic (ie perfect). The Veloster could be a contender but it’s weird and uncomfortable with 3 doors and it’s also fugly as heck. I parked next to a Veloster N the other day and I was flabbergasted by how much better looking I thought my FiST was. Also the DCT has a somewhat recent history of unreliability vs Honda’s rep for relative unflappability. The Civic has a 50 year reputation for being a perfectly balanced car. Extremely reliable and efficient while being a bit more sporty and stylish than the Corolla, for maybe a smidge more money. People are extra excited about this one because the Gen 10 always felt a bit ratty, even at the Type R level, when compared to the materials in say—a Golf R. With the more pedestrian Gen 11 models being as nice and well-performing and seemingly high-end as they appear to be, it gets people’s hopes up for the higher spec versions.
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Oct 16, 2021 20:00
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I understand, but I think the Civic is just boring and the way the hatch matches the look of the sedan is a weird style choice. To me the more interesting cars aren't the Veloster, but the other new turbo cars they added this year with the new 8-speed DCTs and also a manual in the Elantra N. The K5 GT-line also offers an AWD version and all have 10 year warranties. Normal people who aren't enthusiast will tend toward the known Honda of course, but I am liking the Korean offerings a lot more. I almost want to test drive the Kona-N when it comes out and see if I can put up with the looks. It's almost a Hot Hatch.
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Oct 16, 2021 20:13
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every time i see a new civic i just think "why does something look wrong with that accord? oh, right"
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Oct 16, 2021 20:16
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Rusty posted:I understand, but I think the Civic is just boring and the way the hatch matches the look of the sedan is a weird style choice. To me the more interesting cars aren't the Veloster, but the other new turbo cars they added this year with the new 8-speed DCTs and also a manual in the Elantra N. The K5 GT-line also offers an AWD version and all have 10 year warranties. Normal people who aren't enthusiast will tend toward the known Honda of course, but I am liking the Korean offerings a lot more. I almost want to test drive the Kona-N when it comes out and see if I can put up with the looks. It's almost a Hot Hatch. This is like the opposite of any enthusiast I know. Turbos? Autos? AWD? Warranties?! It’s absolutely fine of course and I’m not being mean or anything. I’m genuinely surprised  Also I just spent more on tyres for my ep3 than I paid for the whole car lol. Ffs
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Oct 16, 2021 20:31
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Bape Culture posted:This is like the opposite of any enthusiast I know. Turbos? Autos? AWD? Warranties?! Also fwiw, I am comparing the Civic and Civic SI market segment, not like 50k + cars (of which most will also be AWD and turbo lol) . Rusty fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Oct 16, 2021 |
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Oct 16, 2021 20:33
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Rusty posted:I didn't know car people were against AWD and Turbos, or warranties for that matter. Maybe I am missing sarcasm, but I thought the N was a car people liked a lot. AWD just trades weight for the ability to put down more power on corner exit so you end up with a car that pushes like a wheel barrow and makes up for it in a straight line. Pretty boring, imo, and more expensive to run in terms of consumables Turbos are fine, as long as they are sized appropriately, but you inevitably end up with heat management issues
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Oct 16, 2021 20:39
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The evolution of the hot hatch is kind of interesting. For me it’s all about things like 205 gtis and 182s. Absolute simplicity you can rip up on your drive and fix for pennies. But now we’re almost at Impreza and evo territory of a few years ago but as a 2-box. I wonder what’s next! E: I cannot imagine having a golf r or something as a track car and how the consumables would be vs the aforementioned cars. I suppose it’s just that more people now see them as every day things than track cars though.
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Oct 16, 2021 20:44
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BlackMK4 posted:AWD just trades weight for the ability to put down power on corner exit so you end up with a car that pushes like a wheel barrow and makes up for it in a straight line. Pretty boring, imo, and more expensive to run in terms of consumables
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