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Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

I really really really really really hate that first panel and the loving gormless stare snout has while he's strips. Especially since it looks like another trace and I'm really worried he's taking selfies to model himself for the tracing.

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

What the gently caress is happening in this cursed goddamn comic

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Did they explain why the ship crashed?

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Nighthand posted:

I really really really really really hate that first panel and the loving gormless stare snout has while he's strips. Especially since it looks like another trace and I'm really worried he's taking selfies to model himself for the tracing.

He looks so excited to just get naked with this compete stranger. Then we gotta make sure to get a dick and ball shot in there.

And yeah that's probably from using himself as a model. Isn't that what he does with his softcore porn stuff?

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Maxwell Lord posted:

Did they explain why the ship crashed?

The chandrak did it, because ??? or maybe it was the lake that did it, because ???.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Codependent Poster posted:

He looks so excited to just get naked with this compete stranger. Then we gotta make sure to get a dick and ball shot in there.

And yeah that's probably from using himself as a model. Isn't that what he does with his softcore porn stuff?

And yet the crotch looks weird in all those panels.

It's ya boi triangle dick

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
why the hell does snouth's dick just go straight down as if its tucked between his thighs, its not even attached to the crotch right

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Because Good Boy Snout cannot become erect, as that would not be Good.

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3

Twelve by Pies posted:

I still want to know what that dipshit on Twitter thinks is well written or respectful about Donovan being one of the most honored and celebrated people in the orc culture. It's literally exactly the same as Dances With Wolves/Avatar/Last Samurai where a white dude becomes so great at being another race that they accept him as one of their own. Oh except Donovan can't actually speak orcish worth a poo poo so why the hell is he respected?

She's probably supposed to be giving a reassuring smile to Snout in the first panel, letting him know that she's about to reveal a great secret/truth to him, but Mookie can't draw so it's just straight up a "Let's gently caress" smile.

He's the kind of racist idiot who those mighty whitey movies are made to pander to whose fantasy is a scenario where a mediocre white man can upstage a bunch of minorities at whatever their special cultural skill is. The bland self-insert who likes the same basic nerd poo poo he likes puts all those orcs in their place, so of course he likes it, and he knows from being online that things that are "well-written" and "respectful" are good, so obviously things he thinks are good must necessarily be "well-written" and "respectful."

I know it's probably supposed to be river mud in the latest comic, but it looks for all the world like Mrs. Arudak has poo poo in her hands and is throwing it at Snout.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Nighthand posted:

Especially since it looks like another trace and I'm really worried he's taking selfies to model himself for the tracing.

It would explain Snouts ever shrinking micro penis lol

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
gently caress at least Dances With Wolves had the main character suffer hardships and loss for identifying with a oppressed group, and ultimately realized he couldn't stay with them. Avatar/Last Samurai/DD just go all in on "And this white dude was so amazing that he saved this other race and he decided to stay with them because he was one of them now."

Also as was pointed out Snout's dick pointing straight down as if he doesn't have a ball sack is loving weird and gross. As is his tail that's at a goddamn 90 degree angle and is like halfway up his back.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Maxwell Lord posted:

It's ya boi triangle dick

triangle dick hates particle dick

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
and to be fair, who doesn't

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

Twelve by Pies posted:

gently caress at least Dances With Wolves had the main character suffer hardships and loss for identifying with a oppressed group, and ultimately realized he couldn't stay with them. Avatar/Last Samurai/DD just go all in on "And this white dude was so amazing that he saved this other race and he decided to stay with them because he was one of them now."

Also as was pointed out Snout's dick pointing straight down as if he doesn't have a ball sack is loving weird and gross. As is his tail that's at a goddamn 90 degree angle and is like halfway up his back.

That's not what happens in The Last samurai, lol.

ScienceSeagull
May 17, 2021

Figure 1 Smart birds.
Is Snout gonna get poisoned/possessed/devoured by the mysterious seaweed which the lake lady just splatted all over him? I hope so.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
The way she's rubbing it on his throat specifically makes me think Mookie's really about to throw away Snout's mute and deafness.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

TheHan posted:

The way she's rubbing it on his throat specifically makes me think Mookie's really about to throw away Snout's mute and deafness.

It's probably some dream poo poo (lol, she's rubbing dream poo poo on him) but if it turns out to be this I will laugh forever. But it'd make more sense for her to shove it in his ears in that case.

FlocksOfMice
Feb 3, 2009
Okay... it just does this, this is all it is. This is just his fetish project now it's just going to be this.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!

Rotten Red Rod posted:

It's probably some dream poo poo (lol, she's rubbing dream poo poo on him) but if it turns out to be this I will laugh forever. But it'd make more sense for her to shove it in his ears in that case.

I thought about that, but then I thought...look at these mangled bodies. Dude couldn't draw her putting this poo poo in Snout's ears if he wanted to, he'd just say "oh the magic also went up to your ears"

TheHan fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 15, 2021

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Crespolini posted:

That's not what happens in The Last samurai, lol.

I'm going off what I read on wikipedia, which I mean yeah it's wikipedia but I figured it'd at least get movie plots right. According to that he takes the samurai leader's sword and goes and makes a big speech about honor and tradition and poo poo to the emperor who goes "Oh no I have lost my way" and tells the businessman who was controlling him to gently caress off, and hooray Japan is no longer in civil war thanks to Whitey McGee. Then the movie closes by saying Whitey McGee went to live with the samurai village because he was truly a Japanese samurai now.

Again, at least according to wikipedia.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

Twelve by Pies posted:

I'm going off what I read on wikipedia, which I mean yeah it's wikipedia but I figured it'd at least get movie plots right. According to that he takes the samurai leader's sword and goes and makes a big speech about honor and tradition and poo poo to the emperor who goes "Oh no I have lost my way" and tells the businessman who was controlling him to gently caress off, and hooray Japan is no longer in civil war thanks to Whitey McGee. Then the movie closes by saying Whitey McGee went to live with the samurai village because he was truly a Japanese samurai now.

Again, at least according to wikipedia.

It’s also kinda implied (though not directly stated) that he hooks up with the widow of a Japanese dude he killed.

DamnitGannet
Apr 8, 2007

It’s really bizarre to me that snouts balls are completely hairless

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I hate this comic so much.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Without the context of Snout's body, for a few seconds I was genuinely wondering why you posted a picture of some dude with shaggy hair and a big nose. Almost looks like political cartoon art.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


i dont even know if the comic is salvageable at this point







i will never stop reading it however

Mutant Headcrab
May 14, 2007

Mx. posted:

i dont even know if the comic is salvageable at this point







i will never stop reading it however

We've hit the point where nothing is off the table for how worse this will get. The only ones who aren't bailing are the lifers.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
I personally cant wait to see how bad it gets

Happy Landfill
Feb 26, 2011

I don't understand but I've also heard much worse
I...I don't like Snout staring at me like that with his dick out

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Rotten Red Rod posted:

What the gently caress is happening in this cursed goddamn comic

The most metal thing he can think of

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
I knew what that was before I clicked it. Nice.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


Mors Rattus posted:

All I know is the recap is about to start the cruise and there is no arc in old Deegan I find funnier.


And how. This is the golden age of awful stupid Deegan nonsense.

Chapter 24: Around the World, Part 1: Airship




So one of the things you notice when reading the archive is that, even though Mookie has split off stories into separate sections, they all flow into one another in a way that makes certain things, like the commentary in the first few panels in this strip, hard to follow if you aren't paying attention. The important thing is that this is cementing that Dominic's little glimpse into the future was not a one-off joke, but something the characters are actually reacting to a serious concern until complementary alcohol is mentioned. I do think it's funny that Mookie always feels the need to pull these things front and centre into the narrative. By directly having the strip acknowledged and reacted to buy the main characters, it becomes an actual problem that they ignore the implications of that vision. Whereas if he had just left it alone, no one would've thought it was anything other than a throwaway punchline to the arc. I know this is a lot of text to expand on this, but I think it's because really two movies inability to craft stories, or to understand how the elements of a story work.

Also please enjoy watching how off model Mookie's disaster of an airship becomes in every strip. I particularly enjoy how the woodgrain never faces in the same direction between two illustrations and the fins, decks and wings change shape at random.




Don't know how exactly Luna's on doing her robe, we'll just call it magic.

There's going to be a lot of this during this chapter, Mookie really want to understand how to not virgins Dominic and Luna are.

Shipwatch: the ship appears to have transformed into some sort of flying coffin with a face in front, and bat wings for ears.



1. I hate how this cruise is literally just a modern cruise ship. I know this is a stupid complaint to have, given everything else going on in DD, but it still annoyed me how little Mookie tries to make things more fantasy. You know those illusion rooms are movie theatres.

2. The hobgoblins thing is hilarious, given the recent discussion of tasteful depictions of Native Americans. The hobgoblins are furry little Ewok creatures, but they're definitely sentient, and of course having a visual style that conforms loosely to every "tribal" stereotype in western media imaginable, and not that different from those of the orcs. I mean the whole premise of this cruise is going to be "white tourists gaping at all the foreigners", given that it appears to be exclusively populated by Callanians.

3. This dialogue is just so cringeworthy, it's literally hard to read.



It's time for a body shaming two for one! First gave in horror as a fat man stands naked in front of you, making you literally paralyzed in horror at what you are seeing. Again, that wasn't at all uncommon back in the day, and is still a pretty common joke, so I'm not going to pick on Mookie too much here for it.

Something is deftly wrong with Brian's (that's his name) leg though. The flesh seems to be slipping off of him.



Here's the second strip. This time it's not even a lady being dumb, Dominic just feels the need to point out how not attracted he is to big boobs, and how tedious they must be anyway for those poor women who have them.

Way to be progressive Mookie! You shame those conventionally attractive ladies! You're so much more evolved with your thin, pretty anime wife.



They have Nagasta (clever name, right?) masseuses, but there are no Nagasta clients. It really does set up a feel of the Empire ruling over the servant races.



Mookie draws most boring clothes for his characters.

the same justifying

Case in point, this fanart, whose faces are a tad ugly for my liking but is still okay, does a much better job of drawing interesting clothes.

Chapter 24: Around the World, Part 2: Faria



Welcome to Faria, where weirdly shaped pine trees jut randomly thousands of feet into the air across and otherwise empty plain, with ever present distant mountains that will never be reached. I can't believe how much of a mess that landscape scene is when you really try to think about it. First just the sheer size of those trees, but also the fact that they are all uniformly that one super easy to draw pine shape, that inexplicably doesn't have branches growing with needles on its wherever you see the buildings attached. Like those structures don't seem to make sense within a pine tree, because it's like the needles are behind the tree.

Also in general how lazy can you be with fantasy elves, especially given the fact that the only set we had previously made them seem like some sort of ancient empire obsessed with order and control. Maybe you could come up with something more clever than just "they live in trees"?




One of the ongoing things as connect keep happening is that Dominic and we are going to get special treatment at every location they stop. If we actually like these characters I could see how that might be a fun thing to follow along with. As it is it just makes it seem once again like Dominic and Linda are Mary Sue's.

So here Dominic and Luna are being elevated to the rank of Elven nobility. I do find it funny that he specifies that there is in fact a noble class that does get special privileges, but it's fine because the hierarchy is determined by tree spirits so it's definitely okay that the laws apply differently to them.

I do sort of like that the dryads just sort of pop out of trees though, and that it looks like climbing for a dryad is more like ascending an elevator.




Yet another case where Mookie wants us to feel that Dominic is worldly and cultured, you know is what is mentioned is generic and nonsensical. The sole purpose of this arc is fluffy world building, and even here Mookie isn't able to think up anything more interesting than random names for spices. It's just such a copout.



AS if all of Mookie's drawn clothing isn't mostly skin tight. It is also frankly tedious how often Mookie needs to remind us how much Dominic finds Luna attractive, given how much of a big deal the comic is made of Luna's suppose "ugliness". Twice in the same strip! Mookie is also going to pull from the well of "moving music makes me emotional" often during this arc. There are ways he could've chosen to depict it in this visual and silent medium, but each time it comes off more like an HP Lovecraft monster description. You don't get to hear the song, but trust Mookie, it's totally mind blowing and unbelieveable.

Homemade goods as opposed to those factory made medieval soaps and toys.



So here's a tie-in with the storyline we've heard so far. Extremely boring cliché fantasy story, but then Mookie does something that I actually find sort of fun and cool and would like as a story beat in another context.



Understanding that elves apparently live forever a la Tolkien, we have here a living relic of an otherwise long forgotten war one who was on the losing side at that! That's a fun idea! The only problem is that Mookie introduces it here purely as a way of giving Dominic and Luna even more special access, and it will never come up again after the next 2 strips.

Acibek the magic robot still looks dumb, especially with Mookie's awful awful colour choices.



Now this man would be well over a thousand years old, and as a character his story would actually be quite interesting. Imagine that you were turned into a weapon for the sake of your country, and that your reward was to watch as everything you knew faded from existence while you just kept on living. There's some genuine pathos there! Definitely worth exploring. I don't even mind him describing himself as an old man with no one to talk to, despite that being sort of understating things a bit. What interesting turn will Mookie take with it?



Oh, it's actually just a way for Dominic and Luna to get a personalized guided tour that also makes them the good guys of the story for having given a retired person some of their time.

And again, this is something that I'm pretty sure I would forgive and not even think about in a better comic. But at this point I have so little goodwill towards Dominic and Luna, and the way the narrative presents them, that I can't help but take things like that last panel as Mookie once again jerking off about how awesome his self inserts are.

Just think about the wasted potential here. Suin Seyera could easily be the protagonist of his own story, assuming he lived in a world less generic and filled with holes than Deeganland. Or he could be a wise mentor figure. But even in the context here, where maybe he could just have served to give us some more back story on the elves, we as readers do not get to experience his wisdom. The purpose of this arc is not to fill in the world, so much as to give us brief glimpses of the world while we watch Dominic and Luna enjoying themselves. If anything the forerunner to legacy, it's this. Lots of meaningless landscapes and long meandering tangents that go nowhere.



What an awkward thing for Dominic to say. Obviously this was a response to people pointing out that Dominic was a body shaming rear end in a top hat in the previous strip. So now we find that the fat dude was deliberately trying to get a rise out of the protagonists. As if that people can't poke fun at themselves a little bit in good nature. I certainly do!



I don't even know man. There's a reveal coming about this guy that I don't want to ruin, because it was an obvious late in the game asspull by Mookie, but his motivations make no sense here. Mookie seems to think that "screwing with people" as an excuse works for a lot of behaviours, from mooning people and apparently showing them your rear end hole, all the way through to stabbing them in the guts. It such a lazy copout for explaining character motivations.

Mookie sure does love reminding everyone that Dominic is "a cripple". Given how little it will affect him, it's funny to see how strategically Mookie deploys it to remind you to have sympathy for Dominic.



Mozzarella does sound like the greatest cheese to pair with any wine. I hate every time Mookie does this ersatz fantasy cultured nonsense. It's annoying how obvious the substitutions for real life things are.

Mookie also seems to try to do something a little interesting here, challenging Dominic's prejudices about a branch of magic is only had negative experiences with.



I'm not even clear what a necromancer would do as a profession in the sense that it seems to be meant here, but I don't hate this twist and I don't even hate the pun!

....Is what I would be saying were not for a further twist coming at the end of this arc.



And, with Dominic and company drinking out of their enormous glasses of alcohol, we bid adieu until next time.

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Oct 17, 2021

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
oh I remember that 'guy', lol. It's weird how Mookie will seemingly set up one idea only to immediately undermine it

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

"so why mess with us?"
"haha it all turned out fine in the end"
If you don't know an answer to a question, Mookie, then why would you make your character ask it?

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Oct 25, 2007

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I think the biggest thing I hate about the elves is the decision he made to randomly not capitalize letters in their words. Because, like, I have no idea what that's supposed to sound like. He writes in all-caps and then these letters aren't and how the gently caress is the ready supposed to parse that? Like the apostrophes in random fantasy novels at least can be parsed as glottal stops or clicks.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
I feel like I've definitely seen this chapter streamed in the past but none of this worldbuilding is even a little familar. It's done in such an inorganic and uninteresting way that you retain almost none of the information given by the time you reach the next page.


GrossMurpel posted:

"so why mess with us?"
"haha it all turned out fine in the end"
If you don't know an answer to a question, Mookie, then why would you make your character ask it?

Cause Mookie was floundering trying to walk back his mean spirited fat joke in any way he could. I don't think this guy would've even shown up again if not to retroactively make Dominic and Luna look better for being total assholes. God, they're insufferable in this chapter, the epitome of that entitled couple who think they're not like the riff-raff doing their guided tours and, uh, "having big breasts". They'll go experience the culture for themselves, only to immediately run into multiple people to give them guided tours of the culture.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
colourized DD comics legit look like a 6 year old did them with felt tipped colouring pens

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003


lol

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YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


oh no

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