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Ginette Reno posted:That's kinda crazy that the UK is like that. I don't think you would ever see a senator in the US without some form of security in a public forum. Bear with me here but I think you have this a little backwards, it's crazy that the USA is so terrifyingly dangerous that your politicians do need an armed escort 24/7
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forkboy84 posted:It's fine, there's only been 1 MP murdered in the last decade. Well, 2 now I guess. it's been one per decade since the seventies with the exception of the 00s
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I'd never even heard of someone trying to take out Cromblyn. Big surprise. Well, this is all so loving bleak. Just all of it really. Some of the very worst sides (and there are many bad sides to choose from) of Britain on display. As expected, outcomes continue to be the worst possible Deketh fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Rustybear posted:it's been one per decade since the seventies with the exception of the 00s Just goes to show how inefficient the IRA were.
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Imagine if they'd got her rather than just half-blowing up tebbit's wife. God. I'm getting a hard-on thinking about it.
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Deketh posted:Well, this is all so loving bleak. Just all of it really. Some of the very worst sides (and there are many bad sides to choose from) of Britain on display. The day started off with a daytime TV discussion over whether it was OK to maybe just kill refugees, only fitting that it finishes off with an MP getting offed.
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forkboy84 posted:Just goes to show how inefficient the IRA were. the strength of the ira -- the high level of technical skill, morale and discipline of it's volunteers recruited from tight-knit and impenetrable rural communities -- was also it's weakness if you send your man to go and stab some random MP point blank, it might work but he's not coming back and it's a bit of pyrrhic victory
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lol https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/15/labour-spending-more-on-legal-battles-than-campaigning-sources Labour spending more on legal battles than campaigning, say sources Exclusive: As action against ex-Corbyn staffers looms, falling membership is also hitting finances
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Deketh posted:Well, this is all so loving bleak. Just all of it really. Some of the very worst sides (and there are many bad sides to choose from) of Britain on display. The murder is going to be used as a get out of (not literal, sadly) jail free card in debates and in front of the press by the Tories for any difficult questions or awkward revelations over the next month at the very least too which just adds more bleakness!
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glad the oval office's dead, get hosed you homophobic poo poo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Danger - Octopus! posted:The murder is going to be used as a get out of (not literal, sadly) jail free card in debates and in front of the press by the Tories for any difficult questions or awkward revelations over the next month at the very least too which just adds more bleakness! Maybe, depends on the nut job's motives. If its a guy snapping over having nothing after losing the £20 top up boost, it will be quickly ignored like Jo Cox's was by that brexit nut. Edit: One thing for definite, watch them vote themselves a £20k increase in pay or allowances in order to 'afford security for themselves' soon. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Oct 15, 2021 17:17
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Is this the brass eye mp
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Oct 15, 2021 17:19
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 Least we got a bit of sunshine today, getting a bit sick of it being so grey all the time, shows the trees off in autumn colours too which is nice.
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Tesseraction posted:lol https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/15/labour-spending-more-on-legal-battles-than-campaigning-sources Good. At this point labour might as well burn down, the sooner that happens the better since it means more time to rebuild without Blairite trash.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Ash Crimson posted:Is this the brass eye mp yeh shame on chris morris and this most long of long games
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ThomasPaine posted:Bear with me here but I think you have this a little backwards, it's crazy that the USA is so terrifyingly dangerous that your politicians do need an armed escort 24/7 Oh absolutely. We just walk around here equipped with the knowledge that at any moment someone might lose their poo poo and gun us down in the grocery store, movie theater, etc. You pretty much have to turn your brain off and not think about it or you'll never leave the house again.
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When I saw on BBC Boris praising him as kind and always voting for the most vulnerable in society I just had to see how voting record. LOL, the news story should really correct that statement, I hate that death is a free whitewash of being a complete ghoul in life.
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Syfe posted:When I saw on BBC Boris praising him as kind and always voting for the most vulnerable in society I just had to see how voting record. LOL, the news story should really correct that statement, I hate that death is a free whitewash of being a complete ghoul in life. It's the loving worst. "one of the kindest people in poliotics", get to gently caress. Maybe by tory oval office standards this might even be true but we all have to agree that he was an angel walking on the earth despite how many vulnerable people he voted to screw over. loving decorum Christ I just wish some of it would matter
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Ofcom has investigated, and determined that 'kind' can mean "a makeshift or otherwise atypical specimen" and 'always voting for the most vulnerable in society' does not specify which way he voted, merely that he voted on things that would impact them. No inaccuracy found.
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Plenty of Tory MPs are doubtless charming people personally, with many friends who will miss them. And lots of backbenchers have their pet topics that they're pretty good on: Amess was apparently big into animal welfare. Doesn't mean they aren't huge pieces of regressive poo poo who do immense damage on the national level. I certainly won't shed any tears for the man being gone. But I think Twisto has it right that MPs getting murdered at random is probably not a good thing in general, and the backlash from this is going to be bad.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:Gut stabbings (which is the natural "I'm holding a kitchen knife and wanting to stab someone" wound) are nasty pieces of work that will stay with you for life - but also not as immediately fatal as cuts to the neck or arteries. If he's not being reported as dead already, I'd guess the hospital will manage to save him. Lol well I guess we can add that to your pile
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Failed Imagineer posted:BBC says suspect is a "man of African appearance" That's... an odd way to describe someone. What's that quote (Pratchett, maybe) about someone having been responsible for like 14.2 deaths or something despite not having "murdered" anyone? That's Tories, but thousands of people. So yeah it's sad for his friends and family but I won't shed a tear for anyone who voted through the last decade of misery.
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big scary monsters posted:Plenty of Tory MPs are doubtless charming people personally, with many friends who will miss them. And lots of backbenchers have their pet topics that they're pretty good on: Amess was apparently big into animal welfare. Doesn't mean they aren't huge pieces of regressive poo poo who do immense damage on the national level. I certainly won't shed any tears for the man being gone. But I think Twisto has it right that MPs getting murdered at random is probably not a good thing in general, and the backlash from this is going to be bad. I do agree with you & Twisto. Just everything about the UK political and media sphere burns my arse
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sebzilla posted:That's... an odd way to describe someone. Maybe from Going Postal? I think someone informs Moist of how many deaths his cons have indirectly caused
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That is Mr Pump yes, he works out how many lives he shortened and by how much, and suggests that this expressable as and morally equivalent to a number of murders.quote:“Do you understand what I'm saying?" shouted Moist. "You can't just go around killing people!"
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Deketh posted:Maybe from Going Postal? I think someone informs Moist of how many deaths his cons have indirectly caused That's exactly the one, yes, thank you. e: posted the quote but OF had already got there. Thanks friends.
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Missed in all of today's hi-jinx, but the military are now being brought in to support staff shortages in hospitals. https://twitter.com/STVNews/status/1449005264779231235 quote:The Scottish Government has requested military assistance to ease the “unprecedented” pressure on two NHS health boards.
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It's funny cause I was just saying to my wife a few days ago how I thought it'd only be a matter of time 'til another MP got murdered. They're squeezing people so hard and also stoking up so much hate that one way or another it was bound to happen. Also, yeah, funny how Social Murder is never classed as violence.
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I'm just glad it wasn't a goon this time. Surely nobody as young as the man arrested is posting on these forums any more.
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keep punching joe posted:Missed in all of today's hi-jinx, but the military are now being brought in to support staff shortages in hospitals. (Content warning for the disability C slur)
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OwlFancier posted:That is Mr Pump yes, he works out how many lives he shortened and by how much, and suggests that this expressable as and morally equivalent to a number of murders. Ah yes, that's it. Amazing quote. Mr Pump being a golem reminded me of Feet of Clay, and the wonderful "We can rebuild him. We have the pottery." Discworld novels are my happy place.
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In other news:The Guardian posted:Labour is spending significantly more of its cash on fighting its legal battles than on political campaigning, sources have told the Guardian, after lawyers for the party opened a new front in the party’s legal turmoil this week. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/15/labour-spending-more-on-legal-battles-than-campaigning-sources
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Seeing it reported on twitter that the killer is a Somali man. Get ready for racism!
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WhatEvil posted:Seeing it reported on twitter that the killer is a Somali man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAAhzreGWw
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Can't believe people are coming over here and taking jobs from quiet british gardeners.
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Searching "Somalian" on twitter shows the best of British fash demanding the explusion of all forins and saying Patel(!!) is too soft on migrants.
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