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pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

yippee cahier posted:

Let’s be real: Is anyone actually enforcing it, anywhere? All I have seen are endless stories about restaurants everywhere publicly announcing they will be violating the rules and nothing happening from it.

I saw a blurb about exactly one restaurant in Nova Scotia publicly announcing their intent to violate, who then changed their tune after getting a visit from enforcement people. No idea if everyone else is going along or just being quiet about it.

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Shofixti
Nov 23, 2005

Kyaieee!

It's being enforced in Ottawa. And most of the time, in my experience at least, the people checking are actually taking their time to read the vaccine receipt and compare it to my ID.

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

PittTheElder posted:

I'm taking a flight on Air Canada, anyone know what their rules are for garment bags? I'm looking to take my suit in a garment bag as a carry on, but the website information about that is hopelessly vague.

I have this exact same question except on a WestJet flight. I'm assuming it counts as a separate carry on in case I already have 2?

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

I stumbled ass-backwards into a comfortable, easy life for reasons beyond my comprehension and now I think I'm better than you for it.
Just wear the fancy clothes on the plane.

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Love the Ford govt. lack of awareness, just going to make the same mistakes of opening it up while it looks good.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Hinshaw opening with a mea culpa about her loving terrible reporting on the death of that teenager the other day.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
Here's an article about places in Hamilton being fined for not enforcing, so far 4 places have been fined there: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/vaccine-passport-charges-new-1.6207913

Anyway, here's the latest on that:
https://twitter.com/robferguson1/status/1448739460670279685

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
More restrictions coming back to BC for the unvaccinated as circuit breaker measures because the north is getting pounded.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
It's curious that at this point the regions getting "pounded" are always the ones filled with morons. Oh well, there's probably nothing to be learned from that.

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Cacator posted:

I have this exact same question except on a WestJet flight. I'm assuming it counts as a separate carry on in case I already have 2?

I would either wear it on the plane or just carry it on with everything else. I doubt anyone will complain, it takes so little room atop other bags in the overhead. (I say this as a member of many demographics that don't usually get hassled at airports or on airplanes.)

ChickenDoodle
Oct 22, 2020

yippee cahier posted:

Let’s be real: Is anyone actually enforcing it, anywhere? All I have seen are endless stories about restaurants everywhere publicly announcing they will be violating the rules and nothing happening from it.

I got checked at a restaurant in Vancouver, checked at my hair salon, and NOT checked at a restaurant in Mission. Only reason I stayed at that one was cause it was dead empty inside.

Places are being named and shamed at least. Everyone at Thanksgiving dinner was talking about how they’re never going to Rolly’s again. I’ve never been there but I doubt they’ll exist much longer.

Goosed it.
Nov 3, 2011
Not to be all "but BC is worse" but BC is just as bad as Alberta in many ways. An infant died of covid in BC in April and Henry immediately mentioned that the child had underlying conditions when the death was announced. But no one seemed to care?

Then there's poo poo like this:

https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/1445935711958491136?t=6cMMQgE2UPzD_VKa7Xrx4g&s=19

https://twitter.com/brish_ti/status/1443289035284238336?t=BX-KJ1jxK-8889vjrLuCrQ&s=19

And ostensibly trying to hide many cases and 12 deaths (as of now) in a single LTC.

https://twitter.com/realreporter/status/1448831673433350153?t=cBEZlRYTE2WjJ9V9YIr67A&s=19

So why does BC get a pass for it's poo poo show?

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

So how bad is Bill 96 for anglo speakers in quebec?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Goosed it. posted:

So why does BC get a pass for it's poo poo show?

Your premier isnt broadcasting daily all the ways in which they plan to kill off everyone stuck living in the province. BC is still in the "Hide it away from public eyes" stage.

Grouchio posted:

So how bad is Bill 96 for anglo speakers in quebec?

Biggest potential impact Ive read about is loss of access to healthcare as services will only be provided in French and basic English (but only if you can prove some weird qualification). Could be bad, no way to tell yet though.

Id be more concerned about the potential economic impact for every Quebec resident. The bill in its current form incentivizes companies with offices of more than 25 employees to basically move base of operations to outside the province and just run small offices for coordination. Could be huge job losses, not to mention the brain drain that comes with that kind of shift.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Goosed it. posted:

Not to be all "but BC is worse" but BC is just as bad as Alberta in many ways. An infant died of covid in BC in April and Henry immediately mentioned that the child had underlying conditions when the death was announced. But no one seemed to care?

Then there's poo poo like this:

https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/1445935711958491136?t=6cMMQgE2UPzD_VKa7Xrx4g&s=19

https://twitter.com/brish_ti/status/1443289035284238336?t=BX-KJ1jxK-8889vjrLuCrQ&s=19

And ostensibly trying to hide many cases and 12 deaths (as of now) in a single LTC.

https://twitter.com/realreporter/status/1448831673433350153?t=cBEZlRYTE2WjJ9V9YIr67A&s=19

So why does BC get a pass for it's poo poo show?

Cos for every few boneheaded decisions they occasionally do something none terrible (I think first in country with vaccine passports and the implementation is pretty good, locking down north) while the prairies are constantly stepping on rakes so it's a case of 'well at least we aren't those guys'

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Furnaceface posted:

Your premier isnt broadcasting daily all the ways in which they plan to kill off everyone stuck living in the province. BC is still in the "Hide it away from public eyes" stage.

Biggest potential impact Ive read about is loss of access to healthcare as services will only be provided in French and basic English (but only if you can prove some weird qualification). Could be bad, no way to tell yet though.

Id be more concerned about the potential economic impact for every Quebec resident. The bill in its current form incentivizes companies with offices of more than 25 employees to basically move base of operations to outside the province and just run small offices for coordination. Could be huge job losses, not to mention the brain drain that comes with that kind of shift.
I ask because my favorite canadian streamer couple is moving out of Montreal (and the province) after one too many encounters with rabid francophones in their lovely neighborhood:

https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448710113062162435?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448719598786912258?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448732881111638017?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448721208468545544?s=20

MarquisDeSade
Jun 25, 2005

Grimey Drawer
People in Ontario can start downloading their enhanced vaccine certificates. Those born in January - April can get it today. May - August tomorrow and September - December on Sunday.

It’s just another PDF file you can save to your phone but apparently if you have an iPhone view it on your desktop you can scan it with the camera app to add the certificate to the Health app. I haven’t tried that yet though.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

Alctel posted:

(I think first in country with vaccine passports

Pretty sure Quebec were the first with passports.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
So is there a reason New Brunswick's tory government is ordering employees to not make indigenous land acknowledgements? Did Higgs see his plummeting approval rating and say "we need to dig deeper" or something?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
This land is ours! We stole it fair and square.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

MarquisDeSade posted:

People in Ontario can start downloading their enhanced vaccine certificates. Those born in January - April can get it today. May - August tomorrow and September - December on Sunday.

It’s just another PDF file you can save to your phone but apparently if you have an iPhone view it on your desktop you can scan it with the camera app to add the certificate to the Health app. I haven’t tried that yet though.

thank you!

i am pleasantly surprised, i just tried this and it just worked? the health app is a bit wonky, but it stored the QR code and verified on the app

MarquisDeSade
Jun 25, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Arivia posted:

thank you!

i am pleasantly surprised, i just tried this and it just worked? the health app is a bit wonky, but it stored the QR code and verified on the app

Yeah I gave the Health app a shot too and it’s not that convenient. It’s a lot fewer steps to save the pdf and create a shortcut on your phone to just open the pdf file whenever you need it.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

I feel like this is the beginning of a nightmare scenario where Ontario Libs somehow are able to ram through ranked ballots, and the public conversation across the country around "electoral reform" shifts from being about PR vs FPTP to instead being about Ranked Ballots vs FPTP (a win/win situation for the Liberals).

Accordingly the entire "electoral reform" activist movement is extinguished for a generation (or forever) as Canadians are told that ranked ballots are "better than nothing" and the Fed Libs finally successfully implement Ranked Ballots and bring about a return of alternating Red/Blue Majorities instead of the permanent minority governments that we've been trending toward.

https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1449086957578067972

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
It's not like there are any other serious issues in Ontario to worry about.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1449149184829952004

Kenney has a 22% approval rating. It is now a hostage situation until 2023. I wonder how he'll punish us for not being his stepping stool to prime minister.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp

Arc Hammer posted:

So is there a reason New Brunswick's tory government is ordering employees to not make indigenous land acknowledgements? Did Higgs see his plummeting approval rating and say "we need to dig deeper" or something?

There is a court case between the NB Government and various First Nation groups, between what is tribal land and what isn't. Officially saying that all the land is not NB's but is "unceded" or "unsurrendered" is basically giving up any claim.

quote:

"As you may be aware, the Government of New Brunswick (GNB) is currently involved in a number of legal actions which have been initiated by certain First Nations against the province, including a claim to ownership and title to over 60% of the Province," read Flemming's leaked memo, which was later verified by a provincial spokesperson.

"As a result of this litigation, legal counsel for GNB and the Office of the Attorney General has advised that GNB employees may not make or issue territorial or title acknowledgements.

....


Flemming wrote it may still be "desirable" to make an "ancestral acknowledgement," which is provided at the bottom of the memo: "We (I) respectfully acknowledge the territory in which we gather as the ancestral homelands of the Wolastoqey, Mi'gmaw and Peskotomuhkati peoples. We strive for respectful relationships with all the peoples of this province as we search for collective healing and true reconciliation and honour this beautiful land together."

"Please note the absence of terms such as 'unceded' or 'unsurrendered,' " Flemming wrote.

So litigation tactic, not as bad as not acknowledging the first nations land, but still..

ARACHTION
Mar 10, 2012

Yeeeeeaaaahh, mixed vaccine people are now accepted into the US yeeehaaaw :).

(Well, next month)

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Chillyrabbit posted:

There is a court case between the NB Government and various First Nation groups, between what is tribal land and what isn't. Officially saying that all the land is not NB's but is "unceded" or "unsurrendered" is basically giving up any claim.

So litigation tactic, not as bad as not acknowledging the first nations land, but still..

It kinda cuts to the core of what territorial acknowledgements are about. "Unceded" has a very specific meaning in the context of First Nations who had land taken away without even the window dressing of a treaty, whcih apparently was the case in New Brunswick.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp
Well I wouldn't know what standing NB has on their land, and what was stolen or what was given up via treaty. At the very least it isn't NB being racist just because.

half cocaine
Jul 22, 2019


shot

https://twitter.com/mariekewalsh/status/1449159478604177408?s=21

chaser

https://twitter.com/mariekewalsh/status/1449160822094241796?s=21

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
It's weird that this keeps happening.

Orthanc6
Nov 4, 2009

Grouchio posted:

I ask because my favorite canadian streamer couple is moving out of Montreal (and the province) after one too many encounters with rabid francophones in their lovely neighborhood:

https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448710113062162435?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448719598786912258?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448732881111638017?s=20
https://twitter.com/PeachSaliva/status/1448721208468545544?s=20

This super sucks, I still listen to their podcast every week, they're a super fun couple. Should be noted the guy grew up in Montreal so him leaving is certainly not for lack of trying. Obviously some people will get along fine being English in Montreal, but there's a real problem going on there. Next week's "Castle Superbeast" podcast on Twitch will probably be pretty heavy on the details of this event and everything leading up to their decision.

I've been of the impression that Quebec seceding is not a serious risk for a long time now. But maybe that's not quite the case anymore given that people are more inclined to embrace full-stupid these days.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Orthanc6 posted:

This super sucks, I still listen to their podcast every week, they're a super fun couple. Should be noted the guy grew up in Montreal so him leaving is certainly not for lack of trying. Obviously some people will get along fine being English in Montreal, but there's a real problem going on there. Next week's "Castle Superbeast" podcast on Twitch will probably be pretty heavy on the details of this event and everything leading up to their decision.

I've been of the impression that Quebec seceding is not a serious risk for a long time now. But maybe that's not quite the case anymore given that people are more inclined to embrace full-stupid these days.

Even if you're for the protection of the French language in an official capacity, "go back where you came from" and yelling at people to speak whatever language you're upset about in private conversation, is bigotry 100% of the time anywhere in the world, there's really no nuance about that.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

But the Premier says people in Quebec definitely aren't racist. :o:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

McGavin posted:

But the Premier says people in Quebec definitely aren't racist. :o:

Technically this is bigotry, not racism. But I suspect if people were speaking Yiddish or Arabic or something, it would take a violent lurch into racism. Just a feeling I have.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 43 hours!)

The tweets sound like it's just maybe one unhinged guy?

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

Rust Martialis posted:

The tweets sound like it's just maybe one unhinged guy?

You can read a bit further back in her tweets. This incident is more just the 'final' incident, there have been several others.
They lived in other areas of Montreal no problem, apparently this particular street is chock-full of fanatics.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

I stumbled ass-backwards into a comfortable, easy life for reasons beyond my comprehension and now I think I'm better than you for it.
Without doxxing, can you tell me generally what part of Montréal they live in? I'm curious if this is like NDG, or Hochelaga or what.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high

Another Bill posted:

Without doxxing, can you tell me generally what part of Montréal they live in? I'm curious if this is like NDG, or Hochelaga or what.

Yeah as a life long montrealer, there are definitely some areas you don't want to be yapping about in English if you want to avoid the headaches of dealing with hardliners.

Hochelaga is 100% one of them.

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Rodney The Yam II
Mar 3, 2007




NDG is 100% not where they are encountering this

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