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Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes

gohuskies posted:

For Battletech, I have heard that the Flashpoint DLC is supposedly almost mandatory for fleshing out short mercenary side quest lines to do. Are either of the other ones any good?

I guess fleshing out the side quests is part of it, but the main draw of Flashpoint is adding a merc game mode instead of playing the story-focused campaign. The others are fine but it's just more mechs and things mostly rather than game-changers. If they are cheap or in a bundle, or you like the gameplay they are worth picking up IMO.

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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

AfricanBootyShine posted:

If you've ever watched My Hero Academia, the protag is the personification of Mineta. The only women he doesn't view as sex objects are either over 40 or under 14.

So he views 14 and 15 year olds as sex objects?

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


RBA Starblade posted:

So he views 14 and 15 year olds as sex objects?

To be fair, that's Mineta's age, though it's still a weird creepy and bad character in an otherwise decent show. At least in Somnium Files it's less creepy and more funny.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

To be fair, that's Mineta's age, though it's still a weird creepy and bad character in an otherwise decent show. At least in Somnium Files it's less creepy and more funny.

Too my memory, the gag is just that he likes pornography, he never harasses any female characters.

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

Begemot posted:

Too my memory, the gag is just that he likes pornography, he never harasses any female characters.

No he does get pretty creepy over Iris (who is 18) and her mom. Actually several people get creepy over Iris. It's not a high point for the game. It's a fantastic game otherwise but...

The only person in the game under 18 is his ward and there is absolutely no creepiness there.

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.
Hell Gem
Is anybody else having trouble getting a Paypal purchase to go through on Steam right now? I'm getting that dumb pending transaction error and it refuses to go through even though I cleared the transaction and it's working fine on other websites. God drat Steam is stupid sometimes.

EDIT - Doing the same thing with credit cards too. lol

NObodyNOWHERE fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Oct 17, 2021

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


The Void Rains Upon Her Heart is great fun but i wish the enemies had maybe 10% less health, some of em are kinda slogs

AfricanBootyShine
Jan 9, 2006

Snake wins.

RBA Starblade posted:

So he views 14 and 15 year olds as sex objects?

The youngest character Date creeps on is 18 (I forgot whether she was 17 or 18). TBF, the game does kinda avoid all that by not having any adolescent female characters except for his ward, who is 12.

By the standard of japanese visual novels the horny/creepy score is a little worse than average. But if you're coming in from playing like... any other genre of game, Date is probably going to be the horniest/creepiest protagonist you've run into.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Darkrenown posted:

I guess fleshing out the side quests is part of it, but the main draw of Flashpoint is adding a merc game mode instead of playing the story-focused campaign. The others are fine but it's just more mechs and things mostly rather than game-changers. If they are cheap or in a bundle, or you like the gameplay they are worth picking up IMO.

Oh, the merc game mode was what I was thinking of, I must not have understood. I might not for the others then, thanks!

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

i think the only person date is really openly horny around is Aiba and it's because there's a bit of id vs superego thing going on there, with her living in your head and joining you on your dream adventures. the second closest would be the receptionist at the record label. but mostly any perviness on his part is kept to banter between him and aiba, with aiba basically telling him he's a dipshit

all uchikoshi games (except world's end club i guess? i didn't play much of it) have some horniness to them (VLR especially), but it's always between adults. that said I haven't really watched Punchline, his horny mess of an anime... maybe that one skews younger because it's TV anime and TV production companies hate adult characters??? i didn't really have any interest in it based on the premise-- if you generally don't watch anime, reading the premise for Punchline would probably make you fly out of the comic strip panel of your life leaving only your shoes

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Oct 17, 2021

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
They call him Date because he wants to know the date you turn 18 so he can hit on you

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
it's very odd how so many steam games still don't have ps4 controller bindings

surely the xbox controllers aren't still favored that much over dualshock

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

The 7th Guest posted:

i didn't really have any interest in it based on the premise-- if you generally don't watch anime, reading the premise for Punchline would probably make you fly out of the comic strip panel of your life leaving only your shoes

Punchline is actually really sweet and good, the panties are a bait-and-switch and even when it's plot-relevant they stop actually showing them at around ep. 3, I suggest you watch Punchline without looking up anything else about it

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Oxxidation posted:

it's very odd how so many steam games still don't have ps4 controller bindings

surely the xbox controllers aren't still favored that much over dualshock

I have that very same question. I think that answer is that yes, it is. For some reason.

I wonder if Microsoft was able to get a head start by having better/faster Windows compatability, but I'm too lazy to figure it out and could use a real answer.

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

Oxxidation posted:

it's very odd how so many steam games still don't have ps4 controller bindings

surely the xbox controllers aren't still favored that much over dualshock

I mean, xbox controllers are the officially supported game controller for windows and - until somewhat recently, at least - it was a bit of a pain to get a DS4 working 100% correctly. Haven’t tried recently though since the battery life on those things is completely unacceptable.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Serephina posted:

I have that very same question. I think that answer is that yes, it is. For some reason.

I wonder if Microsoft was able to get a head start by having better/faster Windows compatability, but I'm too lazy to figure it out and could use a real answer.

The XBox 360 wired controller was plug and play and standardized pretty much immediately, both in terms of being the de facto hardware and in terms of having software support that made it easy to integrate into your game, as well as IIRC GFWL requiring Xbox controller support. Keep in mind that back then, this was before the modern era of cross platform and most games were exclusive to one platform or the other. MS would let you release your Xbox exclusives on PC, but they would make you support their standards including the 360 controller. So while old games were a mess, new games "just worked" which was basically a first for dual stick controllers on PC, especially in terms of dynamic prompts (which were just becoming a thing in games).

OTOH the PS3 required fucky software that at first didn't even emulate an Xbox controller, it was like using a random controller that a game couldn't even know the axes for. While Xbox was building dominance, using a PS3 controller meant paying some guy for access to a driver that would work with some things and not with others, and often stop working and require a ton of fiddling to get it going again. The PS4 didn't make things much better. Additionally, through the PS3 generation and well into PS4 Sony was still in lockdown mode and strongly opposed to letting their exclusives be released on PC. So there were never any killer apps that defaulted to Playstation layout, and little reason to care about supporting it. So it's pretty much always been the case that if you're hardcore enough to actually use a PS controller on PC, the prompts are unlikely to be an issue for you because you probably know the Xbox ones too and are used to it.

Now with first-party controllers being heinously overpriced and kinda bad in certain ways there really isn't a reason to buy either, and third party controllers pretty much universally emulate xbox button layouts. There's nothing to shift momentum away from Xbox style being the default.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
I thought pads might be in the Steam hardware survey but apparently not, though from the html5 gamepad tester, you can see that 360 controllers (or something masquerading as them) are still above the rest: https://gamepad-tester.com/

054c is Sony, product 09cc and 05c4 are the second/first gen DS4s, so they're getting up there.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

The great majority of PC games I've played with a controller in the last 3 years have supported the DS4 out of the box and have PS button icons, it's pretty common now


anyone used the PS5 controller for PC? is it the case that any game that supports the PS4 controller out of the box will also work with PS5?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

anyone used the PS5 controller for PC? is it the case that any game that supports the PS4 controller out of the box will also work with PS5?

Yeah it's still dinput so anything that sees PS4 should work. A few games even support the haptic/adaptive stuff (namely AC V, Black Ops and F1 2021 from what I saw some while back)

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Serephina posted:

I have that very same question. I think that answer is that yes, it is. For some reason.

I wonder if Microsoft was able to get a head start by having better/faster Windows compatability, but I'm too lazy to figure it out and could use a real answer.
It is probably that, yeah. At least going by past experience.

"Hey my second to last old 360 controller I own is dying"
"Just use a PS4 controller they are better and everything works with them now. *tosses me spare ps4 controller*"
"Good point!... Huh it isn't working right."
"Have you tried doing X? And setting Y?"
"Yes I have. And some of the buttons are still not getting recognized right."
"Well the PS4 controller is better and I like it more and furthermore-"
*cracking open box to the last 360 controller I own* "Uh huh."
(To be fair they also helped me locate the 360 controller I'm currently using to even HAVE as a spare back then.)

I do like the PS4 controller, but brain dead plug and play guaranteed with more pressure for a dev to get it right certainly has an appeal.

Section Z fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Oct 18, 2021

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

The further I get into Riftbreaker the more I hate the campaign. I was just doing that Tanzanite mission where you have to build a pipeline to transport water from one side of the map to the exact opposite side. I spent an absurd amount of time laying down all the flooring to protect the pipe from quicksand, the energy lines, and the piping which would of course overwrite the energy lines when they occupied the same square so I had to re-do the entire energy line afterward - and line it all with turrets. Then right when I'm getting ready to finish the pipeline, a meteor swarm hits that area, and while the meteors are swarming a bunch of aliens pop out of the ground and start attacking my power lines and pipeline and wreck everything :v:

I'm just sticking to Survival and ignoring all this campaign bullshit from here on out

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
What are the odds that the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles goes on sale this black friday Steam sale?

I want to pick it up but am wondering if I should wait.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Section Z posted:

It is probably that, yeah. At least going by past experience.

"Hey my second to last old 360 controller I own is dying"
"Just use a PS4 controller they are better and everything works with them now. *tosses me spare ps4 controller*"
"Good point!... Huh it isn't working right."
"Have you tried doing X? And setting Y?"
"Yes I have. And some of the buttons are still not getting recognized right."
"Well the PS4 controller is better and I like it more and furthermore-"
*cracking open box to the last 360 controller I own* "Uh huh."
(To be fair they also helped me locate the 360 controller I'm currently using to even HAVE as a spare back then.)

not gonna deny there aren't issues, sometimes completely out of nowhere, but it would be hard for me to give up on the extra functionality a mappable touchpad brings.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
I know the difficulty for Metro 2033 was kind of screwy because of some bullet sponge issues, what are the "ideal" settings for the same level of difficulty in Metro Last Light?

I was going to do hardcore mode, but then I got to a point where I had to throw knives to kill a guard and with no aim reticle it was a joke. Trying to use a controller was also a fun experience because I learned in the first 5 minutes that the preset controller setting didn't have a "mask on" function leaving me stuck in the tutorial for a few minutes while I tried to figure it out.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Rinkles posted:

not gonna deny there aren't issues, sometimes completely out of nowhere, but it would be hard for me to give up on the extra functionality a mappable touchpad brings.
A comedy secondary concern for me is ye olde 360 controller is almost but not quite oldschool nintendo tough. So they have taken plenty of falls while I'm checking a physical notepad or something just fine that I'm pretty sure a PS4 controller would balk at. PS4 triggers are better for my fingers, not so much with sudden contact against the floor :downs:

v1ld
Apr 16, 2012

chglcu posted:

I mean, xbox controllers are the officially supported game controller for windows and - until somewhat recently, at least - it was a bit of a pain to get a DS4 working 100% correctly. Haven’t tried recently though since the battery life on those things is completely unacceptable.

Use Steam to control the DS4, it's quite painless and also lets you set the LED's brightness to 0 which greatly improves the battery life.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

v1ld posted:

Use Steam to control the DS4, it's quite painless

maybe it's been improved since, but that was not my experience a few years ago. i've stuck and been happy with DS4Windows (the Ryochan7 fork)

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Oxxidation posted:

it's very odd how so many steam games still don't have ps4 controller bindings

surely the xbox controllers aren't still favored that much over dualshock

microsoft moved from directinput to xinput, which fixed how triggers worked on the 360 pad but also cut down inputs to only what is sepcifically on xbox controllers, made it standard, made only their controllers natively compatible and set directinput as depreciated. its only bcos ps4 sold so well and ds4s became so common that they started getting proper support.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Rinkles posted:

maybe it's been improved since, but that was not my experience a few years ago. i've stuck and been happy with DS4Windows (the Ryochan7 fork)

steam is much better than ds4windows and has been for a long time

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Stux posted:

steam is much better than ds4windows and has been for a long time

better how?

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh
A lot of games have native DualShock support on PC these days but it usually only kicks in if you have Steam's DS controller support (and DS4Windows) disabled. I find it hard to play a game with the wrong button prompts (X throws me off every time) so I rarely use the Steam controller support unless I can manually switch or mod the button prompts.

Rinkles posted:

better how?
I find Steam's much more consistent. DS4Windows would sometimes get into a mood where it just didn't want to recognize my controller and the only consistent way I found to fix it was to reboot. I've never had that issue with Steam. Plus you get access to the extremely powerful button mapping stuff.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

it works just by steam launching a game, default loads per game profiles + a full system for picking configs out of the community alongside this, full gyro support with no weirdness, will still tellg ams with native ds4 support to use ds4 icons and bindings if they have stuff for the touchpad segments. even if it was just exactly the same as ds4windows it would sitll be better by just being baked in anyway

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Rinkles posted:

better how?

Basically the only way it's beaten is if you're playing a game off-Steam. If you're doing it through Steam, the software recognizes DS4 controllers natively, makes sure it works with either style of input and rebind keys (as well as allowing you a selection of community binds for the game which people have flocked to, this is insanely handy on some titles), and doesn't need a hacky external program going to get it into titles. I can also customize multiple controllers on the same PC up to and including color-coding them or playing with brightness for night-gaming.

I never had good experiences with DS4Windows. Steam just natively goes "your poo poo's good here, lady"

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
All the mentioned features, except for user configs, are in DS4W, and I prefer the interface (you need to launch Big Picture for Steam controls, right?). Gyro controls are probably easier to set up with steam, though.

iirc one issue I had with steam is that it sometimes would highjack or do something weird with the mouse cursor (outside games)

e:I'm not sure if it would work with games that need the Steam overlay disabled, too.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

loading up a game without native pad support into a default controller mapping without doing anything vs the ds4windows hold outs suffering in the dirt for no reason

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Rinkles posted:

All the mentioned features, except for user configs, are in DS4W, and I prefer the interface (you need to launch Big Picture for Steam controls, right?).

Nah. It's a similar UI, but it's just under the usual shift+tab overlay.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Stux posted:

loading up a game without native pad support into a default controller mapping without doing anything vs the ds4windows hold outs suffering in the dirt for no reason

yeah probably. what game without native pad support have steam configs made playable with a ds4?

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

secretly best girl posted:

Nah. It's a similar UI, but it's just under the usual shift+tab overlay.

probably an edge case, but the game i'm playingfiddling with atm, Oblivion, requires you to disable the steam overlay to play nice with its modding utilities

(makes taking screenshots a pain)

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


punk rebel ecks posted:

What are the odds that the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles goes on sale this black friday Steam sale?

I want to pick it up but am wondering if I should wait.

It's a new release so not great but unless you have to have it right now why not wait? Worst case scenario you pay full price in a month or so.

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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
DS4w barely works without input doubling and 'hiding' the dinput interface almost never goes well and needs increasingly arcane practices

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